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Is it possible to get a 1080p projector new for under 700$

Hi all, I'm looking for a home theater projector for my basement man cave. But it'll also be used outside for movie nights occasional. Id like Somthing 1080p hd... Been looking at the benQ 1070 but I'm not sure how we'll it'll handle xbox games like nhl and grand theft auto. If any one has any input pease post away, I appreciate it!
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I'm not sure what exactly your concerns are, but just to cover the bases; the w1070 has very low input-lag and better fast-motion handling than any gaming flatscreen..it is a gamer's friend in just about every way possible.

In addition to that, it has very accurate color (even straight out of the box) which is something few projectors at this price can boast. It also has the highest actual measured contrast in accurate settings of any projector near this price..to such extent that you won't find a projector with better contrast until you're looking to spend $2000-2500! Its real-world brightness in accurate settings also dwarfs much of the competition once they're set to have decently accurate colors.
It also happens to have some of the longest lasting bulbs that not only live on past 5000hours, but also reportedly stay strangely bright all the way through.

I've been told it's selling around $699 on amazon recently.
Except for a few very niche cases, you simply won't find a better projector for under $2000. The fact that it punches SO far above its own price is only made more ridiculous once you realize the cheapest 1080p projectors are only enough cheaper to buy a family dinner out.
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There's an Optoma (hd25e/131xe) and an Acer that sell for a little less or occasionally $550-600 on sale. They don't have the color-accuracy though and also are about half as bright and have half the contrast when dealing with full-color content. They also tend to show more pixelated image-noise (looks kind of like a grainy filter effect on some parts of the image). They also use 2X colorwheels instead of 6X so they show much more rainbow-effect to those who can see it. They also have less zoom-range and no vertical-offset. On the plus side, their dimmer, lower wattage lamps use slower, quieter fans..so they run a little quieter.

For the small price difference I'd take the w1070 any day there's a choice.

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I'm not sure what exactly your concerns are, but just to cover the bases; the w1070 has very low input-lag and better fast-motion handling than any gaming flatscreen..it is a gamer's friend in just about every way possible.

In addition to that, it has very accurate color (even straight out of the box) which is something few projectors at this price can boast. It also has the highest actual measured contrast in accurate settings of any projector near this price..to such extent that you won't find a projector with better contrast until you're looking to spend $2000-2500! Its real-world brightness in accurate settings also dwarfs much of the competition once they're set to have decently accurate colors.
It also happens to have some of the longest lasting bulbs that not only live on past 5000hours, but also reportedly stay strangely bright all the way through.

I've been told it's selling around $699 on amazon recently.
Except for a few very niche cases, you simply won't find a better projector for under $2000. The fact that it punches SO far above its own price is only made more ridiculous once you realize the cheapest 1080p projectors are only enough cheaper to buy a family dinner out.
my consern is just that the image wont be as sharp. the other projector i was looking at was an epson 2000 but the epson has 13,00:1 and 1800 lumens
benq is 10,000:1 and 2000 lumens
not really sure what one to pick.

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I have the Epson HC2000. Based on what I've seen the 1070 has a sharper image, but for my heavy use the Epson with a lamp that costs $99 is a better choice.
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my consern is just that the image wont be as sharp. the other projector i was looking at was an epson 2000 but the epson has 13,00:1 and 1800 lumens
benq is 10,000:1 and 2000 lumens
not really sure what one to pick.
The DLP w1070 has a natural sharpness advantage over the 3LCD Epson 2000. The DLP also shows better fast-motion resolution.

Remember forever that those listed specs are largely inflated and contrast specs are almost always completely ridiculous lies.
Both of those projectors have been extensively measured and found to be pretty near equal in brightness (around 1400-1700lumens) with the w1070 actually staying brighter in more accurate modes than the Epson. The bigger difference is that where the w1070 contrast measures around 1400:1 in real-life, the Epson 2000/2030 measures under 400:1 (not a typo).

The bigger difference to a gamer is also the epsons more laggy input that you'll feel as a slight delay between pushing buttons and seeing the game react. Also the LCD will show some motion-blur while the DLP w1070 shows none.
Also, while the Epson can boast cheaper replacement lamps, in real-life their life expectancy is roughly 1/3 as long as the w1070's (the w1070 lamps tends to run around 5500-6000hrs while the Epson lamps tend to only last 2000-2500hrs).

On top of all that, I believe the w1070 is still cheaper.

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my consern is just that the image wont be as sharp. the other projector i was looking at was an epson 2000 but the epson has 13,00:1 and 1800 lumens
benq is 10,000:1 and 2000 lumens
not really sure what one to pick.
The DLP w1070 has a natural sharpness advantage over the 3LCD Epson 2000. The DLP also shows better fast-motion resolution.

Remember forever that those listed specs are largely inflated and contrast specs are almost always completely ridiculous lies.
Both of those projectors have been extensively measured and found to be pretty near equal in brightness (around 1400-1700lumens) with the w1070 actually staying brighter in more accurate modes than the Epson. The bigger difference is that where the w1070 contrast measures around 1400:1 in real-life, the Epson 2000/2030 measures under 400:1 (not a typo).

The bigger difference to a gamer is also the epsons more laggy input that you'll feel as a slight delay between pushing buttons and seeing the game react. Also the LCD will show some motion-blur while the DLP w1070 shows none.
Also, while the Epson can boast cheaper replacement lamps, in real-life their life expectancy is roughly 1/3 as long as the w1070's (the w1070 lamps tends to run around 5500-6000hrs while the Epson lamps tend to only last 2000-2500hrs).

On top of all that, I believe the w1070 is still cheaper.
I like the epson better becuase I've had their printers for a while and their customer service was good, if those numbers about the contrast and everything is true id probably still pick the epson becuase of the LCD. I'm bit sure if rbe effects me. I have a Mitsubishi projector now but I'm not sure if it's got a color wheel if it does I dknt see the rbe. I guess I'll look into it more but sounds then1070 would be the better way to go, I just don't wanna spend 700 dollars on the wrong projector
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Which specific model Mitsubishi projector do you have?
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Which specific model Mitsubishi projector do you have?
im not even sure of the modle. i can get it out of the closet and check later i dont remeber the model but its not a home theater one.. its a few years old

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If your old Mitsubishi is a single chip DLP (which we can research when you find the model number), then it almost certainly has a color wheel. If it's a non-home theater single chip DLP and you never noticed RBE, then the W1070 should be no problem for you as it's reported to be one of the best at minimizing RBE.
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Right now on Amazon they have these 1080p projectors for around the $700 mark that I've been looking at buying as my first projector.

LCD Based
Epson Home Cinema 2000

DLP Based
BenQ W1070
Acer H6510BD
Viewsonic PJD7820HD

DLP Based Short Throw
Optoma GT1080 (a little more than the $700 budget)


I'm a month or 2 away from buying my first projector. I'm leaning toward the Epson for its warranty, cheaper bulb replacements, and no RBE with LCD projectors. Lag during gaming is my main concern with it. For DLP, I'm leaning toward the BenQ W1070 although the new Optoma GT1080 short throw projector has me intrigued. Hopefully there will be more reviews out of it by the time I'm ready to buy.

I've been trying to find someplace in the DFW area that sells these entry level 1080p DLP projectors that has a demo room so I can see if I'm susceptible to RBE or not. I'd hate to spend $700 on one and find out it really bothers me. That's one of the main reasons I'm leaning toward the Epson.
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I bought the BenQ over the weekend on Amazon for $699. Good time to grab one.
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Right now on Amazon they have these 1080p projectors for around the $700 mark that I've been looking at buying as my first projector.

LCD Based
Epson Home Cinema 2000

DLP Based
BenQ W1070
Acer H6510BD
Viewsonic PJD7820HD

DLP Based Short Throw
Optoma GT1080 (a little more than the $700 budget)


I'm a month or 2 away from buying my first projector. I'm leaning toward the Epson for its warranty, cheaper bulb replacements, and no RBE with LCD projectors. Lag during gaming is my main concern with it. For DLP, I'm leaning toward the BenQ W1070 although the new Optoma GT1080 short throw projector has me intrigued. Hopefully there will be more reviews out of it by the time I'm ready to buy.

I've been trying to find someplace in the DFW area that sells these entry level 1080p DLP projectors that has a demo room so I can see if I'm susceptible to RBE or not. I'd hate to spend $700 on one and find out it really bothers me. That's one of the main reasons I'm leaning toward the Epson.
It's pretty irritating how hard it can be to demo a DLP in many areas. If you can buy from somewhere with a decent return policy (usually made easier if you can order online to a physical store) that will be a good option.

The Epson is a popular alternative if you are very RBE-sensitive, but the DLPs beat it so badly in contrast and fast input-lag time that the Epson should really be a last resort.

The w1070 is the only RGB model of that group and by far the best performer.

If you end up really favoring the short-throws..check the price of the w1080 (short-throw version of the w1070) against that gt1080. If they're both about the same price, the w1080st will be the better choice with higher actual contrast and higher full-color brightness.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
Easy $25-40 DIY black/dark-grey ambient-light rejecting screen, grab two things from a local store..mix..roll..done.
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If your old Mitsubishi is a single chip DLP (which we can research when you find the model number), then it almost certainly has a color wheel. If it's a non-home theater single chip DLP and you never noticed RBE, then the W1070 should be no problem for you as it's reported to be one of the best at minimizing RBE.
The projector is a Mitsubishi XD206u
I'm be also added the optoma hd131xe as well
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A quick search shows that the Mitsubishi XD206U has a color wheel, as expected. It's a pretty basic XGA designed primarily for presentations. As such it's probably not designed to reduce RBE in movies. If you were able to watch movies on this pj without being bothered by RBE, you would be highly unlikely to be bothered by RBE on a modern DLP home theater pj with a color wheel designed to reduce RBE. The W1070s 6X RGBRGB color wheel is reported to be one of the best in its price range for reducing RBE. By comparison the XD206U has a much less effective RGBW color wheel.
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A quick search shows that the Mitsubishi XD206U has a color wheel, as expected. It's a pretty basic XGA designed primarily for presentations. As such it's probably not designed to reduce RBE in movies. If you were able to watch movies on this pj without being bothered by RBE, you would be highly unlikely to be bothered by RBE on a modern DLP home theater pj with a color wheel designed to reduce RBE. The W1070s 6X RGBRGB color wheel is reported to be one of the best in its price range for reducing RBE. By comparison the XD206U has a much less effective RGBW color wheel.
I know it's a projector for presentations but for 2 years we've been using it for movie night and it's Awksme but I want Somthing hd. Does anyone have any comments on the optoma 131ex? I'm considering that as well
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I know it's a projector for presentations but for 2 years we've been using it for movie night and it's Awksme but I want Somthing hd. Does anyone have any comments on the optoma 131ex? I'm considering that as well
While the hd131xe is certainly not a bad projector, the real-world measured brightness, contrast and colors (not silly inflated manufacturer specs) all fall very short compared to any RGBRGB colorwheel DLP (like the w1070).
The w1070, for a very similar price will give roughly TWICE the full-color brightness and contrast as well as nearly perfect colors right out of the box and a less noisy/grainy picture.

Put simply, the 131xe is the best looking projector until you can afford the $700-750 w1070. The w1070 is the best looking projector until you get to the $2000-2500 hw40 or 5030ub.

Both the 131 and w1070 are fantastic gamers.

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I know it's a projector for presentations but for 2 years we've been using it for movie night and it's Awksme but I want Somthing hd. Does anyone have any comments on the optoma 131ex? I'm considering that as well
While the hd131xe is certainly not a bad projector, the real-world measured brightness, contrast and colors (not silly inflated manufacturer specs) all fall very short compared to any RGBRGB colorwheel DLP (like the w1070).
The w1070, for a very similar price will give roughly TWICE the full-color brightness and contrast as well as nearly perfect colors right out of the box and a less noisy/grainy picture.

Put simply, the 131xe is the best looking projector until you can afford the $700-750 w1070. The w1070 is the best looking projector until you get to the $2000-2500 hw40 or 5030ub.

Both the 131 and w1070 are fantastic gamers.
Okay... So you would say save my money untill I could get a better one and avoid the 131 all together? I just don't want to make the wrong choice. And with either projector on the screen I'm going to make is going to go into the dark basement so it should be pretty bright and sharp
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Okay... So you would say save my money untill I could get a better one and avoid the 131 all together? I just don't want to make the wrong choice. And with either projector on the screen I'm going to make is going to go into the dark basement so it should be pretty bright and sharp
The 131 can be set for good colors and low image-noise with a little bit of settings tweaking, but the resulting brightness is about the same as any of the brighter LED projectors and the contrast isn't as high.

There's nothing better looking that games well compared to the w1070 unless you plan on spending $2000-2500 for a Sony hw40.
If you can save up the $700-750 to get the w1070, it would definitely be worth it in my opinion.

If you'd rather save some money and get a slightly cheaper projector, the hd131xe or hd25e (whichever is cheaper) is a good second choice.


Dark basement and homemade screen paired with the 131xe, or even better, the w1070 sounds like a winning combination.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
Easy $25-40 DIY black/dark-grey ambient-light rejecting screen, grab two things from a local store..mix..roll..done.

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BenQ w1070 is $60 cheaper than the Optoma HD131Xe on Amazon right now.
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Okay... So you would say save my money untill I could get a better one and avoid the 131 all together? I just don't want to make the wrong choice. And with either projector on the screen I'm going to make is going to go into the dark basement so it should be pretty bright and sharp
The 131 can be set for good colors and low image-noise with a little bit of settings tweaking, but the resulting brightness is about the same as any of the brighter LED projectors and the contrast isn't as high.

There's nothing better looking that games well compared to the w1070 unless you plan on spending $2000-2500 for a Sony hw40.
If you can save up the $700-750 to get the w1070, it would definitely be worth it in my opinion.

If you'd rather save some money and get a slightly cheaper projector, the hd131xe or hd25e (whichever is cheaper) is a good second choice.

I can't really afford it and would rather spend less money if possible

Dark basement and homemade screen paired with the 131xe, or even better, the w1070 sounds like a winning combination.
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BenQ w1070 is $60 cheaper than the Optoma HD131Xe on Amazon right now.
I see it's cheaper but I was also looking at the hd141x as we'll.
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Okay... So you would say save my money untill I could get a better one and avoid the 131 all together? I just don't want to make the wrong choice. And with either projector on the screen I'm going to make is going to go into the dark basement so it should be pretty bright and sharp
The 131 can be set for good colors and low image-noise with a little bit of settings tweaking, but the resulting brightness is about the same as any of the brighter LED projectors and the contrast isn't as high.

There's nothing better looking that games well compared to the w1070 unless you plan on spending $2000-2500 for a Sony hw40.
If you can save up the $700-750 to get the w1070, it would definitely be worth it in my opinion.

If you'd rather save some money and get a slightly cheaper projector, the hd131xe or hd25e (whichever is cheaper) is a good second choice.


Dark basement and homemade screen paired with the 131xe, or even better, the w1070 sounds like a winning combination.
I would rather save al the money I can and the 141 looks lole a good deal
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Check prices between all the 131, 141, 25e, 26, etc.. to make sure you're getting the cheapest (these four are basically the same projector). Cheapest I've heard is that one of them dropped to $550 during a sale.

In a dark enough room on a reasonable sized screen (110"-120" or less) the brightness loss shouldn't be a big deal.
With brilliantcolor set very low and dynamic-contrast (and noise-reduction) turned OFF you'll be very capable of getting good color-balance and low grain without smearing details.
It runs at a moderate fan level and becomes forgettabley quiet in eco-mode.

You'll be giving up a decent chunk of contrast while still keeping a healthy amount and giving up a smaller amount of color-accuracy.
You should expect to save about $50-150 compared to the $700 w1070 and another $50-80 when it comes time for a new lamp (though the lamps last forever in eco in some of these DLPs).

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
Easy $25-40 DIY black/dark-grey ambient-light rejecting screen, grab two things from a local store..mix..roll..done.
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Check prices between all the 131, 141, 25e, 26, etc.. to make sure you're getting the cheapest (these four are basically the same projector). Cheapest I've heard is that one of them dropped to $550 during a sale.

In a dark enough room on a reasonable sized screen (110"-120" or less) the brightness loss shouldn't be a big deal.
With brilliantcolor set very low and dynamic-contrast (and noise-reduction) turned OFF you'll be very capable of getting good color-balance and low grain without smearing details.
It runs at a moderate fan level and becomes forgettabley quiet in eco-mode.

You'll be giving up a decent chunk of contrast while still keeping a healthy amount and giving up a smaller amount of color-accuracy.
You should expect to save about $50-150 compared to the $700 w1070 and another $50-80 when it comes time for a new lamp (though the lamps last forever in eco in some of these DLPs).
I've been looking into the 131 and the 1070 now I'm all for the 1070 and it seems like the better projector but I just don't want to spend that much money. So I'm not sure which to go with I don't want to buy the wrong one cuz it's a lot of money
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An understandable worry.
But, it's honestly hard to go wrong with either of them.

The Optoma (25e, 131xe, 141, 26) is the second best choice there is if you plan on any gaming. Not just the second best up till $700, it is the second best choice until $2000! It is also, currently the cheapest 1080p projector there is. That is not a bad place to be, and it's not something you'll likely regret.

The only projector that beats it for less than $2000 is the w1070.

If you can comfortably afford the w1070, it's well worth the money. If you'd rather save $100-150, second best is NOT a bad place to be.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
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An understandable worry.
But, it's honestly hard to go wrong with either of them.

The Optoma (25e, 131xe, 141, 26) is the second best choice there is if you plan on any gaming. Not just the second best up till $700, it is the second best choice until $2000! It is also, currently the cheapest 1080p projector there is. That is not a bad place to be, and it's not something you'll likely regret.

The only projector that beats it for less than $2000 is the w1070.

If you can comfortably afford the w1070, it's well worth the money. If you'd rather save $100-150, second best is NOT a bad place to be.
If I buy then1070 I'll have to save a while for all the other stuff I want to buy. I think the 131 will be fine for an entry level gamming and tv projector. Worst case I'll buy it from somewhere where I can return it if I don't like it. But I think it'll be perfectly fine and honestly anyting will be better than my current projecotr that's not even a home theater projecotr
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True.
I think you'll like it a lot.

Out of curiosity, is there anything you're trying to budget for that could be DIY'ed instead? For many, buying a screen is a pretty unnecessary expense, when you can build one in any number of ways, even going as simple as painting a wall.

Old speakers/amps can be re-purposed to some extent as well.

If nothing else, something like that might help you enjoy both gaming on a large screen AND being able to buy food so that you can go on enjoying gaming on the big screen.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
Easy $25-40 DIY black/dark-grey ambient-light rejecting screen, grab two things from a local store..mix..roll..done.
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True.
I think you'll like it a lot.

Out of curiosity, is there anything you're trying to budget for that could be DIY'ed instead? For many, buying a screen is a pretty unnecessary expense, when you can build one in any number of ways, even going as simple as painting a wall.

Old speakers/amps can be re-purposed to some extent as well.

If nothing else, something like that might help you enjoy both gaming on a large screen AND being able to buy food so that you can go on enjoying gaming on the big screen.
I just build a screen the other day for my current projector and I'll build a bigger one when I get a bigger one. I have some killer boston acoustics 5.1 computers speakers that I plan to use untill I can upgrade to a reciver and that other good stuff, looks like I may order then131 this weekend.. I'll have. To let y'all know
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I got the Benq 1070 earlier this week and hooked it up to my PS4 and I'll tell you now that even though I had just thrown it together and wasn't even projecting onto a proper screen, just a grey wall I was completely blown away by the picture quality. I tried a couple of games like BF4, Black Flag and Tomb Raider and they all looked amazing even better than dare I say it, my Samsung smart TV.

The input lag was really low and I noticed that straight away in BF4.

Trust me if you get the 1070 you will not be disappointed. I have some pics which I will try and attach and you will see. Keep in mind these are taken with my phone and as you can see I just quickly put stuff together just to make sure it all worked before I put it all away until the new living room is finished being built so conditions weren't ideal, but to me it still looked fantastic straight out of the box.
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I got the Benq 1070 earlier this week and hooked it up to my PS4 and I'll tell you now that even though I had just thrown it together and wasn't even projecting onto a proper screen, just a grey wall I was completely blown away by the picture quality. I tried a couple of games like BF4, Black Flag and Tomb Raider and they all looked amazing even better than dare I say it, my Samsung smart TV.

The input lag was really low and I noticed that straight away in BF4.

Trust me if you get the 1070 you will not be disappointed. I have some pics which I will try and attach and you will see. Keep in mind these are taken with my phone and as you can see I just quickly put stuff together just to make sure it all worked before I put it all away until the new living room is finished being built so conditions weren't ideal, but to me it still looked fantastic straight out of the box.
Wow that does look amazing! Now u mention the input lag. Is it noticeable at all? I'll be playing games like grand theft auto and nhl 14 and can't have lag. What's your input

**i may be able to finance the projector so I could be happy with spending the money for the benq if it's really worth it **

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