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post #1 of 7 Old 11-14-2002, 03:21 PM - Thread Starter
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I'm interested in people's opinion of using a projector and screen to watch satellite (DirecTV). I have read that watching analog cable on a PJ is unsatisfying because the deficiencies of PQ are very visible on the large screen (compared to a normal 32" or 36" TV, say). Is the same true of satellite?

My screen size would be 92" 16x9; projector would be Epson TW100 or similar. I'm intending to use the system for DVD watching, but if it worked acceptably for TV that would be a bonus.

I know there is the format issue of projecting a 4:3 picture on the 16:9 screen; my interest here is more in the quality of the image itself.

Are there significant differences in PQ between the various satellite tuners brands and models? Most of the comparisons on these seem to focus on features rather than PQ. I'd be willing to spend more on a good sat tuner if it would save me the cost of another TV.

Anyone doing this? Opinions?
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I have a TW100 I'm using on a 82" 16:9 FireHawk, sitting about 12' from the screen. I have a TIVO that is used to watch DirecTV occasionally using s-video. The PQ is ok, my wife does not mind it at all, I'm a little more picky
and will probably get an HD receiver soon, but it's going to be hard to justify around $600 for just 2 HD DirecTV stations, HBO and Showtime.
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I concur with the thoughts of equipment cost per HD channel on DirectTV.
Also, if your antenna is old you will need to upgrade to the oval one (I can't
recall if this one has two LNBs and would require another cable run.)

However - DtV does seem to be approaching the cable company "free
installation if you subscribe for ..." pricing models.

Quote from the DirectV web site:

You can receive our high definition programming by using an HDTV set with a built-in DIRECTV Receiver OR by using an HDTV-enabled Multi-Satellite DIRECTV Receiver with any high-definition television set. You can also use the HDTV-enabled set-top box with your analog TV set to receive standard definition programming. An oval DIRECTV Multi-Satellite dish is also needed to capture HDTV and other programming we broadcast at 119 degrees West Longitude (WL) and the programming we broadcast from 101 degrees WL.

Has anyone actually seen an HDTV set with built-in DirectV? [philosophical
question only, but feel free to PM - especially as this is a projector forum.]

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Originally posted by John Carl
The PQ is ok, my wife does not mind it at all, I'm a little more picky
and will probably get an HD receiver soon, but it's going to be hard to justify around $600 for just 2 HD DirecTV stations, HBO and Showtime.
Actually, as compared top HBO, Showtime has relatively little in the way of 1080i transfers--most are upconverts. On the other hand, HDNET is also on Direct, with most programming shot with HD cams rather than film.
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wirwin,

I have watched SD Direct TV using DTiVo just about every way I can.

These include:
SVideo to PJ in Native mode *
Svideo to PJ scale to full screen
Svideo to Capture card >DScaler>PJ FULL PJ Panel (4:3)
Svideo>Capture>dScaler> PJ (Pillar boxed with 16:9 desktop )
Repeat Svideo>Capture cases using SDI>Capture

I prefer pillar boxing within a 16:9 - smaller picture-less bothersome artifacts.

Sometimes I prefer the Svideo >PJ with native mode *
* PJ maps direct 1:1 the incoming 4:3 image onto the panel so the picture is actually a little smaller than pillar boxed in a 16:9 window.

Quality of SVideo cable IS important.

I can't stand being only 1.5 pix widths back- way too soft - just not enough info in the mpeg artifacted ntsc feed.

So, yes, I do it at a minimum of 2x pix width back.

Can't speak to the tuner issue.

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I have direcTV with a Marantz/82" Firehawk and a Sony 32" XBRTV.

The projector is great for DVDs and HDTV but irritating as hell on standard NTSC images. I still prefer our XBR for most standard TV viewing. But in the case of sports and some movies I will use the projector just for the larger image.

Even with the built in Faroudja processing the image quality from standard TV is soft, low contrast and showing irritating artifacts blown up to this size. I'll probably end up buying a 42" plasma for normal TV viewing, my 32" Sony seems a lot smaller than it did.
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I have a M20X with Hughes Directv HD receiver. The local analog stations look bad but their digital counterparts look very good. "Survivor" looks almost HD on some close ups and there is no video noise.
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