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Epson Home Cinema 3700

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?UseCookie=yes&sku=V11H799020

Looks like just an increase in brightness with the latest image enhancements but no mention of CFI.

Better MSRP around $1299 or I can't see why anyone would choose it over a Sony HW45ES or Epson 5030UB.
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I noticed that there are 3 new projectors in this line mostly differentiated by contrast

Home Cinema 3100 Full HD 1080p 3LCD Projector
V11H800020 •Color Brightness: 2600 lumens
•White Brightness: 2600 lumens
•Full HD 1080p technology, 3D capability
•Up to 60,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio
•± 60% vertical and ± 24% horizontal lens shift

Home Cinema 3700 Full HD 1080p 3LCD Projector
V11H799020 •Color Brightness: 3000 lumens
•White Brightness: 3000 lumens
•Full HD 1080p technology, 3D capability
•Up to 70,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio
•± 60% vertical and ± 24% horizontal lens shift

Home Cinema 3900 Full HD 1080p 3LCD Projector
V11H798020 •Color Brightness: 2700 lumens
•White Brightness: 2700 lumens
•Full HD 1080p technology, 3D capability
•Up to 120,000:1 dynamic contrast ratio
•± 60% vertical and ± 24% horizontal lens shift
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Looks like a solid upgrade replacement for the 3000/3500/3600 series. Just a quick glance at the details on the Epson website shows that the 3100 offers Super Resolution, Detail Enhancement and Frame Interpolation which the 3000 lacked. Unlike the 3000/3500 that had different features, the 3100/3700 appear to be virtually identical except for lumen output. So if 2600 lumens is enough for those who need substantial horizontal and vertical lens shift but have a sub-$1,500 budget, the 3100 could become a very popular option.
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http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?UseCookie=yes&sku=V11H799020

Looks like just an increase in brightness with the latest image enhancements but no mention of CFI.

Better MSRP around $1299 or I can't see why anyone would choose it over a Sony HW45ES or Epson 5030UB.


It all depends on your environment. I watch 70% sports with some lighting on in the room on a 150" screen. The best black level in the world is lost on that and it's lumens that count. That projector would probably be a better fit for much of what I watch vs. the 5030 which I currently have. There are a few late nights where I get it pitch black and of course the 5030 is the clear choice but that's about 10% of my viewing. I'm not going to run out and replace it but if I were starting over this new line would be a serious consideration. We also watch a lot of 3d (mostly animated) so again the brighter picture is a big help.
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I guess we should hold off drawing any conclusions about these new projectors for awhile. First of all, they aren't mentioned anywhere outside of Epson's website, so that's currently the only source of information and must have just happened in the last day or two. I just noticed on Epson's website that the 3100 is listed with Frame Interpolation Technology as a key feature while the presumably upscale 3700 does not include Frame Interpolation Technology as a key feature, which makes no sense at all.
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Yes, maybe they are still getting things put together.

I wouldn't be interested in any of them unless they had DFI and were around $1300. Then I would consider the 3900. I have a feeling Epson will ask 2K for it though, replacing the 5030UB price level.


Hawkmarket - I agree, the brightness pop can be as nice as the contrast pop in many cases, but only if the price is right.

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The original msrp for the 3000/3500/3600 was $1,299/$1,499/$1,799. I'd expect 3100/3700/3900 msrp to be similar. When Epson gets its act together on publishing specs for the new projectors I'd expect them to have similar differences in features to the models they're replacing to justify the price spread. But we'll have to wait and see what the real changes are as the currently posted specs are likely garbled.
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Is the 3900 basically the same as the other two but with a dynamic iris?
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They all have dynamic irises I think.
Maybe a manual iris too on the 3900?
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If they improved input lag on these models I'd seriously consider one.
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Hi all,

If I was about to purchase a 3500, would it be worth holding off for the 3700? I read the following in an Epson press statement, "There’s also Enhanced Super Resolution in 2D and 3D mode, extended vertical and horizontal lens shift, 5 colour modes in 2D and two in 3D".

Will the 3700 have more lens shift and better super resolution then the 3500?

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Oops, someone must have messed up by revealing premature info about the new models. All details about the 3100/3700/3900 have been removed from the Epson website. Stay tuned.
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In the same boat. Suggestions for a $1300 budget?


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Hi all,

If I was about to purchase a 3500, would it be worth holding off for the 3700? I read the following in an Epson press statement, "There’s also Enhanced Super Resolution in 2D and 3D mode, extended vertical and horizontal lens shift, 5 colour modes in 2D and two in 3D".

Will the 3700 have more lens shift and better super resolution then the 3500?

Cheers,
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In the same boat. Suggestions for a $1300 budget?
I ended up going with the 3500 (which is the 6600 here in Australia). From what I could find the new 3500 replacement looked like it was going to have the same specs, and when released here in Australia would probably be more expensive anyway.
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Any news on this? I see B&H has these for sale ready to ship this week I will likely be upgrading from my 3020 and would like to see more reviews.
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Hello, i have my Epson TW6700 (3700 US).
Compared with my 6 years Mitsubishi HC3200 = HC3800.
Better blacks on the Epson, better shadow detail, far brighter, excelent sharpness. I am very happy.
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Do you see an motion blur with sport programs.

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Epson TW6700 (Hc3700) Left, Mitsubishi HC3800 Right

Screen - 92" 1.0 gain
Basic settings:

Epson
Color - Natural
Color temp - 6500k
Super white - on
Skin tone - 1
Gamma - -2
Iris - High speed
Lamp - Eco

Mitsubishi
Cinema mode
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I did not test the FI, but i think its smooth, even without it.
On eco mode its a very silent projector. For is brightness, i think a 120 inch screen its the ideal.
3d its very bright. Tested with samsung and Panasonic RF glasses.
For anyone who do not have a dedicated room, its a fantastic choice.
The black level with the iris its better than the Mitsubishi, and i think it is better than any sub 1500 Dollars projector.
On Tv programs, its like having a big TV. Very Sharp and Bright.
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Hello, i have my Epson TW6700 (3700 US).
Compared with my 6 years Mitsubishi HC3200 = HC3800.
Better blacks on the Epson, better shadow detail, far brighter, excelent sharpness. I am very happy.


Does the picture in picture feature on this projector allow you to project the same size image with each of the sources being projected? Most of them only allow for one small box up in the corner and the other image is much larger. This could be a great football/basketball season projector if you can adjust the size of both images to match.
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Does the picture in picture feature on this projector allow you to project the same size image with each of the sources being projected? Most of them only allow for one small box up in the corner and the other image is much larger. This could be a great football/basketball season projector if you can adjust the size of both images to match.
I'm sorry, didn´t test this feature.
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Do both the 3100 and 3700 have PiP?
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Hello, i have my Epson TW6700 (3700 US).
Compared with my 6 years Mitsubishi HC3200 = HC3800.
Better blacks on the Epson, better shadow detail, far brighter, excelent sharpness. I am very happy.
Thanks for sharing!
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Anybody here got their 3700 from B&H yet? Any reviews or comparisons to 3020 or 3500?
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Do both the 3100 and 3700 have PiP?
The combined 3100/3700 User's Guide shows PiP for both models.
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Most both be HDMI sources I think. That's what I like though.

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Most both be HDMI sources I think. That's what I like though.
I get it - it is the only thing they could do. But, from a practical perspective - it is pointless as in home theater setup projector gets a single feed from a receiver that has multiple inputs. So what is the point for PIP across HDMI inputs on a projector that got a single 25ft HDMI cord from a receiver? That means receiver should do pip from its sources.. Or do they think I need to put 2 or 3 cords into the ceiling to feed all sources directly into projector? It is ridiculous.
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I have a NUC mounted on my PJ, so two HDMI is perfect for my uses.
If you ran an analog source, you'd need another line anyways as well.

I've found that you can run many flat lines together and they look just like one line on the wall. It's just a pain to get them lined up and tied in place perfectly the first time.

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Just got mine setup over the weekend
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I did not test the FI, but i think its smooth, even without it.
On eco mode its a very silent projector. For is brightness, i think a 120 inch screen its the ideal.
3d its very bright. Tested with samsung and Panasonic RF glasses.
For anyone who do not have a dedicated room, its a fantastic choice.
The black level with the iris its better than the Mitsubishi, and i think it is better than any sub 1500 Dollars projector.
On Tv programs, its like having a big TV. Very Sharp and Bright.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3CJM6jXvsQ
Do the 3D glasses from Panasonic plasmas work?

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