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post #8821 of 10428 Old 06-09-2017, 02:48 PM
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I intend to read through the entire thread this weekend but just had a 2 quick questions, please.
1st. Is fan noise, my PJ will be mounted about 4ft. right above my head will the fan be noticeable in quiet moment?
2nd. Overall use, can this PJ or any other be used for long continuous use, I spend all my time in front of my HT either watching
movies, gaming or on PC, most weekends my system is on for an average of 18 hours in a row. Can the PJ handle that without overheating.
I know it will use up bulbs faster but am okay with that since I still replace them in my Mits DLP.

Thanks.
During quiet passages, you may hear fan noise. You can reduce your lamp from high to medium for a quieter fan. I didn't use my ceiling mount after unboxing. This projector is much larger than the Panasonic it replaced. I decided to construct my own shelf for the rear wall, 18' from the screen. I used 3/4" wood and two sturdy L brackets that I purchased from Lowes. I painted the shelf and brackets flat black, to match the walls and ceiling of my home cinema. Fan noise is rarely an issue due to the loudness levels I typically listen at. I grew up listening to music at rock arenas, so loud music is my forte. This projector has been known to run 18 hours a day without issue. Check your filter, and pay attention to your system so as not to overload it. Common sense. I use this pj for everything except during sleeping and a flat panel for HD dreams. Learn the settings. Memorize them. There are so many great settings for the user and a great remote. You should be able to flesh a great image from any content, unless that content is SH_T. Cheers on your acquisition of my favorite projector until they replace it.
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Where is your screen mounted, relative to the ceiling? I assume your screen is not ALR, correct? Thx.
As I have complete light control in a dedicated theater, I do not have an ALR screen. Relative to your question, the top of the screen's 3" frame is 11" from the ceiling with the top of the image at 14" from the ceiling.

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Where is your screen mounted, relative to the ceiling? I assume your screen is not ALR, correct? Thx.
my projector is 5-3/4" from ceiling and screen is 4-1/4" from ceiling. Works perfectly

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I see a lot of people complaining about fan noise, this can almost be eliminate with sound treatments. I actually have a completely treated room and where projector sits I have a row of 244 GIK accoustiv panels in front of projector. I then moved 2 panels to the sides 18-20" from sides of projector and with fan on high and projector directly above my head 4ft above I can not hear it. My buddy has same projector with it 5ft above head but no panels and its loud. 3 panels in front/ sides will make a world of difference.


Thought I would throw this out there,
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gene4ht--a special thank you for the thoughts and detailed reply! I had been gathering bits & pieces of that while trying to comb through the vast amounts of useful information on this thread (and elsewhere on the site), but that summed up much of it succinctly. Probably going to take the plunge on the Sony 4k player via a local Best Buy so we have that to try after installation, but an easy return option if it doesn't work out.
Responding to the previous question about ALR screens reminded me of something you may be interested in at some point. It wasn't quite clear to me if you were projecting onto your living room wall or mounting a screen on your living room wall. In any case, should you be doing this long term and wish to maximize image quality and minimize ambient light effects for your room conditions, you may want to consider an Ambient Light Rejecting (ALR) screen.

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Also, FYI, the July/August issue of Sound & Review has a favorable review of the Sony UBP-X800. From both a price and features/performance perspective, it appears to settle in nicely between the Philips and Panny/Oppo players.

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During quiet passages, you may hear fan noise. You can reduce your lamp from high to medium for a quieter fan. I didn't use my ceiling mount after unboxing. This projector is much larger than the Panasonic it replaced. I decided to construct my own shelf for the rear wall, 18' from the screen. I used 3/4" wood and two sturdy L brackets that I purchased from Lowes. I painted the shelf and brackets flat black, to match the walls and ceiling of my home cinema. Fan noise is rarely an issue due to the loudness levels I typically listen at. I grew up listening to music at rock arenas, so loud music is my forte. This projector has been known to run 18 hours a day without issue. Check your filter, and pay attention to your system so as not to overload it. Common sense. I use this pj for everything except during sleeping and a flat panel for HD dreams. Learn the settings. Memorize them. There are so many great settings for the user and a great remote. You should be able to flesh a great image from any content, unless that content is SH_T. Cheers on your acquisition of my favorite projector until they replace it.
Thank you very much for your input, I am also going to put the Espon on a shelf, I have a ceiling huggar fan between it and where the screen will be so hope won't be a problem. Still trying to see if I can get a 130" screen in my 8ft ceiling room, will need room underneath for my center channel speaker.
Good to hear about use, as the Epson will be for everything will have no other video option. Mon-Thurs usually about 4 hours a night but on weekends Fri-Sun it can run for up to 18 hours continuously.

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I've used it in the past and have had good results if I recall.
this is weird, my calibration must have been dark. I was having issue with dark areas in my game where I literally couldn't see so I used high lamp but it was still dark. The colors looked great though. I decided to try the Xbox calibration just for brightness and contrast.

Brightness was on 44 and moved up to 55
Contrast was at 65 and it moved down to 57

Is Xbox calibration app that far off or was my calibration dark?. Only change I made was I moved projector forward 5ft

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It could have been you were on PC/Extended mode (0-255) for one and Video (16-235) mode with the other. You have to be consistent.
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are harpervision settings for all content? or just HDR content? im using my 5040ub for gaming, movies all from htpc
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are harpervision settings for all content? or just HDR content? im using my 5040ub for gaming, movies all from htpc
The settings listed here and what people refer to as "HarperVision" are for HDR only.
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I”ve been waiting for the first DLP enhanced 4K PJ to come out, which has just been released by Optoma for $2000. That excited me... for a minute... until I found that the new Optoma is not offering 3D, which was a deal breaker for me. I want to have the option to enjoy 3D content in my home theater for the immersive factor, on a large screen.

So I've been reading some great reviews for the 5040 over the past year, and have been curiously tempted to purchase. I decided that I cannot wait any longer, and I just pulled the trigger on the 5040. It will be delivered Tuesday.

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I”ve been waiting for the first DLP enhanced 4K PJ to come out, which has just been released by Optoma for $2000. That excited me... for a minute... until I found that the new Optoma is not offering 3D, which was a deal breaker for me. I want to have the option to enjoy 3D content in my home theater for the immersive factor, on a large screen.

So I've been reading some great reviews for the 5040 over the past year, and have been curiously tempted to purchase. I decided that I cannot wait any longer, and I just pulled the trigger on the 5040. It will be delivered Tuesday.
Big mistake on optomas part if you ask me, DLP 3D is about as good as it gets so why on earth drop your trump card..
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I see a lot of people complaining about fan noise, this can almost be eliminate with sound treatments. I actually have a completely treated room and where projector sits I have a row of 244 GIK accoustiv panels in front of projector. I then moved 2 panels to the sides 18-20" from sides of projector and with fan on high and projector directly above my head 4ft above I can not hear it. My buddy has same projector with it 5ft above head but no panels and its loud. 3 panels in front/ sides will make a world of difference.


Thought I would throw this out there,
Any chance of some pictures of this please ?.
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It could have been you were on PC/Extended mode (0-255) for one and Video (16-235) mode with the other. You have to be consistent.
I will check, this is in xbox settings correct?

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I will check, this is in xbox settings correct?

Yes, I think they're called Standard (16-235) and RGB-PC (0-255) if I recall.
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I”ve been waiting for the first DLP enhanced 4K PJ to come out, which has just been released by Optoma for $2000. That excited me... for a minute... until I found that the new Optoma is not offering 3D, which was a deal breaker for me. I want to have the option to enjoy 3D content in my home theater for the immersive factor, on a large screen.

So I've been reading some great reviews for the 5040 over the past year, and have been curiously tempted to purchase. I decided that I cannot wait any longer, and I just pulled the trigger on the 5040. It will be delivered Tuesday.
You'll be very pleased. I sure love mine.

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I intend to read through the entire thread this weekend but just had a 2 quick questions, please.
1st. Is fan noise, my PJ will be mounted about 4ft. right above my head will the fan be noticeable in quiet moment?
2nd. Overall use, can this PJ or any other be used for long continuous use, I spend all my time in front of my HT either watching
movies, gaming or on PC, most weekends my system is on for an average of 18 hours in a row. Can the PJ handle that without overheating.
I know it will use up bulbs faster but am okay with that since I still replace them in my Mits DLP.

Thanks.
I have the 5040 mounted literally less than 1.5 feet from the top of my head and on ECO mode it is not noticeable almost at all. The sound is a medium-low pitch humming in the background which is not noticeable even during quiet moments. My old Panasonic AE8000U had a horrible high pitch noise that bothered me but I learned to ignore it eventually but the 5040 noise is really not bad. In medium fan though, it is definitely louder and noticeable and high fan is rather loud. With the proximity of the projector to our heads we just use ECO which is plenty bright since we have it on max zoom (110" from 11' back) and have good light control.

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Just a quick update on my previous post regarding fan activity during power down and power up: Epson's technical (1st level phone) support informed me that fan activity follows this model's "instant on" and "instant off" design parameters. It was explained to me that when the PJ is powered on, everything (fan included) is powered on and when powered off, everything (fan included) is powered off. As counter intuitive as this seems to be for heat dissipation, this model's normal behavior is to allow the lamp to cool down naturally..
My 5040 has an "instant off" for sure, now that I'm monitoring it I notice it turns off almost instantly, every time. Also, the high fan noise when it starts up for about 10-15 seconds until the lamps starts projecting an image. Odd and hopefully it doesn't mean the projector has a shorter life span or problems down the road related to poor cooling internally.
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I have the 5040 mounted literally less than 1.5 feet from the top of my head and on ECO mode it is not noticeable almost at all. The sound is a medium-low pitch humming in the background which is not noticeable even during quiet moments. My old Panasonic AE8000U had a horrible high pitch noise that bothered me but I learned to ignore it eventually but the 5040 noise is really not bad. In medium fan though, it is definitely louder and noticeable and high fan is rather loud. With the proximity of the projector to our heads we just use ECO which is plenty bright since we have it on max zoom (110" from 11' back) and have good light control.



My 5040 has an "instant off" for sure, now that I'm monitoring it I notice it turns off almost instantly, every time. Also, the high fan noise when it starts up for about 10-15 seconds until the lamps starts projecting an image. Odd and hopefully it doesn't mean the projector has a shorter life span or problems down the road related to poor cooling internally.
On power off the lens cover closes and shuts down immediately. Then normal power up is quick. Lens cover opens then about 2-3 seconds Epson appears all eco fan noise. Then every now and then get the high fan noise on startup with turbo fan for 10-15 sec.

It's strange than Epson cannot answer this.

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Any chance of some pictures of this please ?.
My new iphone I can't upload pics, it lets me upload butv won't close window and therefore doesn't attach pic

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Now that I have my 5040 on the way, I've been shopping for some 3D specs. Looking for something that works well at a reasonable price. What can you folks recommend?

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Now that I have my 5040 on the way, I've been shopping for some 3D specs. Looking for something that works well at a reasonable price. What can you folks recommend?
When I demo 3D - I use a SHORT movie which can be found
for under $13 dollars. Now I must admit - it is a documentary.

When Movie makers use 3D cameras - the final product can be
awesome. Today they all seem to take a shortcut and film
in 2D and let computers make it into 3D. All these 2D-3D I hate.

Try:

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So I've been reading some great reviews for the 5040 over the past year, and have been curiously tempted to purchase. I decided that I cannot wait any longer, and I just pulled the trigger on the 5040. It will be delivered Tuesday.
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You'll be very pleased. I sure love mine.
@Snoogleheimer is on the money...you will not be disappointed...Tuesday will be the beginning of a great relationship. BTW, my first PJ was a DLP...no problem with RBE and I enjoyed it immensely...the 5040, however, is in a different league. Also noted that there are more than a few 5040 owners in and around SE Michigan!

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There are quite a few threads addressing 3D glasses under 3D Tech Talk...a good start would be the one below...I personally have the ValueVues and would highly recommend them.

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On power off the lens cover closes and shuts down immediately. Then normal power up is quick. Lens cover opens then about 2-3 seconds Epson appears all eco fan noise. Then every now and then get the high fan noise on startup with turbo fan for 10-15 sec.

It's strange than Epson cannot answer this.
Agreed...unfortunately this is not uncommon for most 1st level support personnel (not just Epson) who typically are in place to answer only very basic questions that are documented and scripted for them. It was very apparent during my session that the rep was only familiar with the generic operation of Epson's overall projector product line and unfamiliar with the specific functions of the 5040. Leading support organizations have a process in place to immediately escalate issues and a means to provide timely results/response to the customer. For some support organizations, this is an issue in search of a solution.

BTW: A bit OT here but been meaning to say this for a while now...Great job on your Media Console build!

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Agreed...unfortunately this is not uncommon for most 1st level support personnel (not just Epson) who typically are in place to answer only very basic questions that are documented and scripted for them. It was very apparent during my session that the rep was only familiar with the generic operation of Epson's overall projector product line and unfamiliar with the specific functions of the 5040. Leading support organizations have a process in place to immediately escalate issues and a means to provide timely results/response to the customer. For some support organizations, this is an issue in search of a solution.

BTW: A bit OT here but been meaning to say this for a while now...Great job on your Media Console build!
Thank you.

We actually had a change in events and are closing on a house in 9 days. We are going to keep the console and electric screen for our living room along with my Benq W1070. Then going to build a dedicated theater room in the extra 3rd bedroom. It's small but it will be mine. The room is 9 wide by 12 long with 8ft ceilings. Plus one end has a long closet that will be used for AT screen and speakers. This closet makes the room 14 long. This will be where the Epson 5040ub. So it will be in a dedicated room. So soon will be my build thread after all the house upgrades I have to do first after closing. Going to be a busy husband soon.
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On power off the lens cover closes and shuts down immediately. Then normal power up is quick. Lens cover opens then about 2-3 seconds Epson appears all eco fan noise. Then every now and then get the high fan noise on startup with turbo fan for 10-15 sec.

It's strange than Epson cannot answer this.
My 5030 operates very similarly to this. Nothing new for Epson I would guess.
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Big mistake on optomas part if you ask me, DLP 3D is about as good as it gets so why on earth drop your trump card..
my sentiments exactly

I ve checked out projectorcentral review of preproduction unit and UHD65 is rather off my list.

From the initial opinions/review it looks 5040ub wins in contrast, HDR, colors, black levels, brightness.

The uhd65 selling factor would be better 4k details and motion processing but these are not the most important picture factors...
The price I would say is also not that competitive when comparing to 5040ub

Biggest mistake ever was to give up on 3d, which on DLP was always great!
By the way I sold my DLP so now I am ready to go and purchase some serious HT PJ
Most likely it will be TW9300/5040ub. I saw demo version (in dedicated room) of TW9300 vs JVC RS500 checked out few HDR movies, 3d and I preferred TW9300/5040ub.

I need to check out new JVC models (X5500/RS420) but I think I won't change my mind.
Simply due to the fact this TW9300 is great all-rounder and very nicely priced model.

by the way has anyone heard any news from Epson about planned upgrades / new projector launches ?
June is the time they may announce something like upgraded HDMi bandwith etc.
Thanks !
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Well the 3D fans are the victims of the same thing I have been off and on over the years. The electronics industry (any commercial industry) follows what the masses want. The average buyer has a cheap flat panel TV now and doesn't care about 3D. Worse yet, the younger generations are watching stuff on tablets and phones. The projector makers are just following the TV trends.

Maybe a mistake since projector owners tend to have different wants/needs, but nevertheless that's what is happening.
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My 5030 operates very similarly to this. Nothing new for Epson I would guess.
Thanks for this...comfort in knowing this is NORMAL for current Epsons.

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my sentiments exactly ...Biggest mistake ever was to give up on 3d, which on DLP was always great!
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Well the 3D fans are the victims of the same thing I have been off and on over the years. The electronics industry (any commercial industry) follows what the masses want. The average buyer has a cheap flat panel TV now and doesn't care about 3D. Worse yet, the younger generations are watching stuff on tablets and phones. The projector makers are just following the TV trends.

Maybe a mistake since projector owners tend to have different wants/needs, but nevertheless that's what is happening.
I personally had no interest in 3D until I tried it on my 5040. The added immersive qualities that 3D delivers is totally lost on those with screens under 100 inches...especially so on portable electronics. Unfortunately, as @talon95 suggests, we PJ owners are in a niche market.

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I personally had no interest in 3D until I tried it on my 5040. The added immersive qualities that 3D delivers is totally lost on those with screens under 100 inches...especially so on portable electronics. Unfortunately, as @talon95 suggests, we PJ owners are in a niche market.
Have to say I disagree partly with that, I've been into 3D at home since 2008 using smaller 55-59" flat panel tv's and have really enjoyed it. Only recent years have I been into projection and agree it's great but I was happy with 3D tv aswell.
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