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Although Epson utilizes both methods, the current 5040 FW update (1.09/1.04) appears to be USB only.

https://epson.com/Support/wa00805
Can anyone tell what the firmware does?
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Just move it well away from your final intended position. Then move the image in ONE direction only vertically. And then in ONE direction horizontally. Make sure more than 10 clicks are needed. Done.
So I redid all my lens shift memory last night and so far it does seem that it is more accurate now. For the "10 clicks" part, does it actually have to be 10 or more consecutive individual clicks up to the final click, or can you hold down the direction to get close to the desired spot then just click a few times to get to the exact spot you want? Just to be safe I ended up clicking individually.

Also, does this rule of thumb/guideline also include zoom and focus? That is, when setting up a particular lens shift memory that requires zooming in or out, that you do it only in one "direction" (i.e. not overshoot and then go in the opposite direction to fine tune)? The same thing with focus. It's harder follow the rule of thumb with both focus and zoom I feel because the focus is so subtle and the zoom is so slow if you use individual clicks rather than hold down.

Furthermore, does the focus get saved with lens position memory? Zoom has to of course but not sure if focus does as well, although it obviously should as well as zooming in/out can affect the fine focus.
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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


Your welcome...






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sorry??? NO!. Thankv you for taking the time to do this.

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Can someone chime in here? On xbox 1s I have the following options

Color depth

24 bits per pixel 8 bit
30 bits per pixel 10 bit
36 bits per pixel 12 bit

I am guessing 8 bit since projector can only support max of 10 bit I believe.

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@tuckerpc389 , Have you tried my HarperVision HDR on SDR settings for HDR content? It helps with the darkness you mentioned but maintains the wide color gamut filter.

The link with settings is just below my signature here.
Dave, do you have epson super white on or off?

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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0

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sorry??? NO!. Thankv you for taking the time to do this.

Exactly! Your curves and settings have been awesome Oledurt! I just wish I sill had the 5040 here to check them out.

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Dave, do you have epson super white on or off?

OFF
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Exactly! Your curves and settings have been awesome Oledurt! I just wish I sill had the 5040 here to check them out.




OFF
oh man, he has it on, should I leave it off? Will that hurt the calibration?

Edit: its off

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oh man, he has it on, should I leave it off? Will that hurt the calibration?

Edit: its off
Most calibrators I have spoken to leave superwhite ON, I do myself for rec709 but and 3D, when it comes to UHD/HDR though Its Off.
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[QUOTE=panman40;53770281]Most calibrators I have spoken to leave superwhite ON, I do myself for rec709 but and 3D, when it comes to UHD/HDR though I pits Off.[bQUOTE]exactly what he did, you may be able to tell me this why is it suggested to turn off YCC in xbox 1s again?. something about better color?

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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


Your welcome...






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Thanks, I'm going to try your settings after I finally install the firmware upgrade. I was hoping one of the more astute owners here would be able to flesh out what improvements I can expect. It would be nice to know what to look for with the firmware. The only thing I remember is someone said if you set HDR to auto that info screen will show HDR mode 1. That's great but, is that all that they added with this update?
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Does the 5040 have a manual iris? I am considering one, but the manual seems to indicate only the 6040 has it. It's something I will need in my set-up.
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Exactly! Your curves and settings have been awesome Oledurt! I just wish I sill had the 5040 here to check them out.




OFF
Dave, maybe your will no answer to this,

I have these choices, default is 8bit

Color depth

24 bits per pixel 8 bit
30 bits per pixel 10 bit
36 bits per pixel 12 bit

I am guessing 8 bit since projector can only support max of 10 bit I believe.

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Thanks. Will definitely try it out this weekend.


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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


Your welcome...






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Silly HDR Question

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Thanks. Will definitely try it out this weekend.
When people refer to HDR Setting is that a reference to playing 4K movies or for regular TV like DIRECTV?

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That's a setting on your TV or projector for playing back 4K HDR discs or files or even other media suppliers ,like Netflix etc.. But those you found in this link are only for 5040/6040.

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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


Your welcome...






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question, it says HDR1 auto bright, I can only choose one or the other auto bright or HDR1. Wich do I choose?

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question, it says HDR1 auto bright, I can only choose one or the other auto bright or HDR1. Wich do I choose?


They are the same just use auto bright


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They are the same just use auto bright


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just to be sure, this is in signal menu, then under "dynamic range" setting correct?

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Can anyone tell what the firmware does?
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Thanks, I'm going to try your settings after I finally install the firmware upgrade. I was hoping one of the more astute owners here would be able to flesh out what improvements I can expect. It would be nice to know what to look for with the firmware. The only thing I remember is someone said if you set HDR to auto that info screen will show HDR mode 1. That's great but, is that all that they added with this update?
AFAIK there is no...nor have I seen...formal/official Epson FW update logs or any 1.09/1.04 descriptive information for the 5040/6040. Like @john barlow indicated, my understanding is also limited to anecdotal information I gleened from these threads basically saying that HDR Auto will default to HDR mode 1 instead of HDR mode 2 when HDR content is detected...presumably to improve brightness.

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Most calibrators I have spoken to leave superwhite ON, I do myself for rec709 but and 3D, when it comes to UHD/HDR though I pits Off.[bQUOTE]exactly what he did, you may be able to tell me this why is it suggested to turn off YCC in xbox 1s again?. something about better color?
Really sorry I don't know anything about the Xbox or gaming consoles as Im not really into gaming
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Dave, maybe your will no answer to this,

I have these choices, default is 8bit

Color depth

24 bits per pixel 8 bit
30 bits per pixel 10 bit
36 bits per pixel 12 bit

I am guessing 8 bit since projector can only support max of 10 bit I believe.
Well if the max is 10 bit, then use 10 bit. It is more dependent on the total bandwidth than any one setting like the bit depth. For example, it may work fine with 4K 24p 4:2:0 BT2020 HDR 10 bit, but if you go to 60p or 4:2:2, then it could be too much and you would have to drop down to 8 bit for it to work. Here's a chart that shows the bandwidth limits and what can be sent with them:

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Well if the max is 10 bit, then use 10 bit. It is more dependent on the total bandwidth than any one setting like the bit depth. For example, it may work fine with 4K 24p 4:2:0 BT2020 HDR 10 bit, but if you go to 60p or 4:2:2, then it could be too much and you would have to drop down to 8 bit for it to work. Here's a chart that shows the bandwidth limits and what can be sent with them:

awesome Dave!

Also when you adjust focus is that saved to the memory of thatc selection?. I would think it is because when honingl going from 240.1 to 16:9 there is a lot of zooming involved that would interfere with focusing.

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Is the lens on the 5040ub relatively flat and large? Also, how would you rate its 3D performance? Is there much flicker? I want to buy one but I live in China and the people at the home theater market will not even take one out of a box, let alone demo it.
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Hey everyone

Just curious what you got your settings at for blu ray movies since Harpervision is for movies in 4k uhd?? All comments and feedback are absolutely welcomed

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Sorry to crash the party but here are my settings for HDR in their entirety...Enjoy.

Bright Cinema Mode. HDR 1 Auto Bright

Brightness = 50
Contrast = 49
Color Saturation = 50
Tint = 50
Color Temp = 4
Skin Tone = 4
Offset R = 50
Offser G = 50
Offset B = 51
Gain R = 50
Gain G = 50
Gain B = 43

Power Consumption = Medium

RGBCMY

R 53,50,50
G 40,94,27
B 61,49,47
C 59,46,44
M 62,50,50
Y 37,50,48

Auto Iris = Off
Epson Super White = Off
Lens Iris = 0
Gamma (left to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0


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Oledurt,

Can these settings be used for blu ray and 4k movies with hdr? Does anyone else know? thanks
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Can these settings be used for blu ray and 4k movies with hdr? Does anyone else know? thanks


These are my settings for 4k UHD discs.


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Bright Cinema...

...to right). 0,1,7,13,22,29,29,14,0

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Wow. Fantastic.

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