Originally Posted by Verge2
No way. Only one experienced HT enthusiast has touched one and he said the contrast was deplorable.
If it had a measured 80k:1 CR I'd play with it. Also, it's 720p signal only?
Both Art/PJR and ProjectorCentral have professionally reviewed the Celluon/Sony first-gen laser model.
In a lit room the contrast is naturally terrible. In a blacked-out room the Celluon/SonyMPCL1 measures roughly 30,000:1 native contrast with a low APL pattern (better for testing native contrast than full black/white fields). This is a far cry from its claimed 80,000:1, but still a fantastic result for any display let alone something under $3000.
I agree with wanting more brightness (along with a few other things), but contrast is something these pure laser units have always had in spades. They have higher native contrast than most <$2000 models' dynamic contrast.
Art/PJR was badly inaccurate regarding his contrast assessment of the laser model (I believe he had the Sony instead of the Celluon).
Originally Posted by rexdigital
Anyone springing for the new Celluon laser projector?
55 lumens / 80,000:1 contrast this round and they've moved the emitter to
the short end like the sony versions. Also has android os, usb-c for charging and
the entire top side is a touchpad. No photos of the bottom but in an interview
they stated it would have a threaded mount.
I pre-ordered one today (releases Dec 15th)
I'm satisfied with the PicoPro I've had for nearly 2 years now
in a blacked out bedroom, but brighter is a welcome improvement.
I'm glad to hear your original Celluon is still alive and kicking (my Sony variant had issues after a month or two, but I finally sent it in for replacement under warranty).
Do you happen to know what your original was claiming for brightness and how significant this increase should be?
I want to say they were claiming either 30lm or 35lm measured along with the statement that it LOOKS more like 50-60lm to the eye..(a statement that I've confirmed at least for myself with side-by-side comparison with a 100lm-measured model filling an image-area of nearly double the square-footage).
If the 55lm model looks like 110lm+ to the eye, I think I'd like one too!
For those unaware, the laser-light from these projectors doesn't simply look brighter than it measures because of an optical illusion..it IS brighter than typical measurement devices detect because they measure light in a somewhat limited way that doesn't accurately collect the laser illumination.
Think of it as similar to how certain calibration equipment must be redesigned to properly read OLED display primaries..the current tools aren't very good at reading this specific form of light.
I understand most folks won't be too excited whether it's 100-110lm or 55lm as both are quite low, but a uniform, high-contrast, full color-brightness image of about 4ftL looks very good to me in the blackroom..so this sounds great to me personally.
For those waiting for more reasonable brightness, this could be considered at least a step in the right direction for future models.
EDIT: they finally added a cardslot/memory-device for playback! This was one of the only portable/pico projectors that previously didn't have a memory/media-player function which was really strange considering its particularly good batterylife and small size.
Will be interesting to see if anyone can confirm what its brightness truly looks like (55lm, 110, or 200lm). The previous models claimed ~2X, not 4X.