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post #1 of 12 Old 05-19-2017, 01:10 PM - Thread Starter
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Epson 3700 Vs. 5040UB for total TV replacement.

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My new house is almost completed. I've decided to give using a projector full time a shot! I've ordered a 120" Dark Energy Abyss ALR screen. I will have 2 shades on each window/sliding door, the outer shade will be light filtering but still let a fair amount of light in. The inner mounted shade will be black-out shades. The idea is that in a great room, I will typically want to not have to be in the dark to watch shows & sports. I would love to get the 5040UB so I can watch some 4k movies and such on my UB900 and just overall have the better night time movie performance. But my concern is that maybe I would need the extra lumens of the 3700 for daytime viewing? Anyone want to chime in and help me decide?
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Ive had both. The 3700 did not appear to be any brighter than the 5040UB. However the 3700's black levels are noticeably inferior to the 5040UB. If you can afford it, get the 5040UB.
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Interesting! I didn't expect to hear that. In this case, the cost difference between the two doesn't really matter to me compared to just having good end results!
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The 5040 is rated at 2500 lumens by Epson but projectorcentral tested it at over 3500 lumens in it's brightest mode. At the very least, the difference in output isn't as large as the ratings would have you believe. The 5040 is one of the best values around. The only way I would go for a 3100/3700 over it is if the 5040 was out of my budget or if I was only concerned with viewing in ambient light or in a poor room (where contrast and black levels won't matter).

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ProjectorReviews.com got substantially lower lumen output but I believe there's was a pre-production unit and that hopefully is the reason for it and not that Projector Central just got a good one!
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That is interesting... I'll say this: I've never heard anyone over in the 5040 owners forum complaining about the lumen output. As it stands the 5040 is brighter than my BenQ HT2050 and I can watch with ambient light no worries. I doubt you'll have any issues-- just make sure to buy from a seller with a generous return policy in case you get it home and discover it you need more output. As Lumens stated, the difference in contrast is substantial between these two. The 3700 had a native contrast roughly equal to entry level DLP units while the 5040 is an ultra high contrast projector intended to provide more serious performance in a fully light controlled room. Whether or not your room can take advantage of that extra performance is another matter entirely.
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Here is a comparison of the 5040 with lights on vs off https://www.youtube.com/comments?filter=kOBDF9FPLgk
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I am trying to decide on a new projector for my theater I am building in my basement, and I would love the 5040, but the wife says no it's to expensive so I have been looking at either the Epson 3020 which is on sale for a refurbished for $699 or the Epson 3100 at $1099. I rather have the 3100 with the newer technology, but dream of having the 5040 or something like it some day. I want to go to a 2.35:1 AT screen and be able to go from it then to 16:9. It's possible with the 3100, just more work on my part.

Enjoy the 5040.

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5040ub, easily.
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What about a refurbished 5020UB, which is $1000 right now... Basically the same price as a new 3100 right now.
Were there any significant upgrades since the 5020?
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Well I settled for the Epson 2040 which I know is nowhere near the 5040, but I have way to watch 4K and there was no way my better have was going to approve me spending $1000+ on the 3700 let alone $2600 on the 5040. I like the 2040 so far and right now my theater is not done so it is just sitting on a end table between two recliners. I made it this way so we could use it for movie night or sports night outside. May try it out some weekend to see how it looks soon.

The 5040 is a big dream right now for me.

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Mentioned above Epson 3100 at $1099 is the best option _right_now_. Or may be even new epson 2150 when it gets out and drops down in price as they claim it to be at 60000:1 contrast that looks suspiciosly close to what is claimed for 3100 - so it may have same optical elements and LCDs, just need to wait for reviews.

As of 4K units - 5040 was a good thing to get last year to jump on that train - but, right now, realistically, for HDR it is not bright enough, it does not have proper chip inside, huge box, and by the combination of all
factors it does not seem as a good buy for this fall. New laser driven models seem to be appearing by mass now, so, i think in an year time $3K segment of devices will have something you really need - a bright 5-7 K lumen 4K projector with enough light to work at daytime and enough light to do proper HDR at movie night.

PS. be sure during construction to put all wiring for 11 Atmos speakers and go with 4 speakers in the ceiling. I use 4 high mounted side surround speakers for 7.1.4 Atmos - but compared to embedded in-ceiling ones they kinda suck. Do one pair right above seating and one pair in between seating and screen. I would say sound stage planning for Atmos is a serious thing, and if you going to have seating almost right at the wall - it may create difficulties with rear surrounds.

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