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^^ I can't believe that's what 5000 Lumens looks like
I think that's light source, not the on-screen results.

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^^ I can't believe that's what 5000 Lumens looks like
It's indeed the light source power. You have to divide by 3 for screen lumen so 1666 :-) Where the Sony Laser UST as 2500 Lumen but not the same price too...
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Products like this can fill the gap in the market for people who understand that contrast, lumens, and HDR matter more than 4K.

I looked up the specs of the chip, it's 0.47 and true 1080p (not e-shifted faux-1080p like some other pico DLP versions which would be awful for 1:1), but the chipset to control it has a 150Mhz max input pixel clock, which means 1080p60 max, as usual:

http://www.ti.com/product/DLPC3439?k...-EN-Everything

To get 120hz inputted to the DMD's controller, it can't be more than 720p, regardless of surrounding electronics or the manufacturer's intent. So that means my dream of owning a single chip 1080p 120hz-capable projector can only be done with the 300Mhz UHD DLP chips.

Still, it's interesting that the contrast is this good (if the number is true), it's a smaller chip compared to the older DC3 / 4s at 0.47 vs 0.66 inch, but it does have 17 degree mirrors so that's likely why.

I thought these new smaller mirrors were the cause of the UHD DLPs having worse contrast than the 1080p units, despite the fact that they're also 17 degree. But apparently not.

I think these are the same mirrors which begs the question: why aren't we seeing any 4K DLPs with 3000:1 native? We should be able to, if this marketing is actually accurate. It's definitely way more in the realm of possibility than the ridiculous dynamic contrast numbers people always try to shuck and jive us with.
Other pico's using this and their contrast is the usual dismal DLP

Many have a plastic lens though, which will make a difference.
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It's indeed the light source power. You have to divide by 3 for screen lumen so 1666 :-) Where the Sony Laser UST as 2500 Lumen but not the same price too...
nice to know, thanks for the info
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I think I want to buy one, can anyone help?

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I think I want to buy one, can anyone help?
doesn't appear to be any way to get it in the US at present - keep your eye on dhgate - they resell a lot of different things from China - that's where I would expect to see it first.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/xiaomi-faq,news-20083.html

"How do I get a Xiaomi device in the U.S.?
While consumers in countries such as China, Singapore, Malaysia and India can order directly from Xiaomi via the Mi.com website, U.S. residents cannot. But you can still get a Xiaomi device via retailers and importers, such as Newegg and DHGate, for a small fee. Shipping a product, such as the $20 MI Band, via www.xiaomishop.com costs $22. Even after including that cost, though, Xiaomi products are still a steal."

I would love to hear someone in the US get their hands on it though.

http://www.********.com/projector-ac...pp_660919.html - offering to email you when they get one, good luck with that...

I think this thing is awesome but I would have to run a 40' HDMI cable to use it. Not sure that's going to work (without paying a crap ton more for devices to boost the signal along the chain).
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doesn't appear to be any way to get it in the US at present - keep your eye on dhgate - they resell a lot of different things from China - that's where I would expect to see it first.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/xiaomi-faq,news-20083.html

"How do I get a Xiaomi device in the U.S.?
While consumers in countries such as China, Singapore, Malaysia and India can order directly from Xiaomi via the Mi.com website, U.S. residents cannot. But you can still get a Xiaomi device via retailers and importers, such as Newegg and DHGate, for a small fee. Shipping a product, such as the $20 MI Band, via www.xiaomishop.com costs $22. Even after including that cost, though, Xiaomi products are still a steal."

I would love to hear someone in the US get their hands on it though.

http://www.********.com/projector-ac...pp_660919.html - offering to email you when they get one, good luck with that...

I think this thing is awesome but I would have to run a 40' HDMI cable to use it. Not sure that's going to work (without paying a crap ton more for devices to boost the signal along the chain).
Why do you need to run such a long cable? Can't you relocate your speakers or whatever to the front of the room?

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Why do you need to run such a long cable? Can't you relocate your speakers or whatever to the front of the room?
nope. Everything (speakers cables etc) has been run through walls so that the PJ is on the ceiling 13 to 15' from the screen (which was dumb in hindsight - should have allowed for placement further back) and the AVR is in the closet in the back of the room.

In order for me to run an ultra short throw PJ I would have to run an HDMI from the front of the room all the way to the back of the room (again using the in wall tube) or re-route 4 speakers worth of wire from the back to the front. Either way it's not a great solve.



EDIT : turns out a redmere 50' HDMI cable will totally do the trick.
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so two months later and I have yet to find evidence that anyone actually owns one of these things or find where/how to buy one.

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so two months later and I have yet to find evidence that anyone actually owns one of these things or find where/how to buy one.

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Yeah sorry, I usually follow these things but have been too busy (and sick recently) but I found these pictures:































The last picture is a comparison with an Epson TW3300, a 1080p projector with 1800 lumens and contrast 25000:1.

From the reviews that I've seen, overall feedback has been good. I'm not sure of where to get it though and I think it hasn't even started to sell yet in China. If you really want to get it then you will probably have to look at those early adopter 3rd party resellers in HK, Singapore, Taiwan or Malaysia. Warranty however is between you and them.

I do want to have a closer look at this projector as it's around the same price as the LG HF80JA, but a quite a bit more promising.

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That is wrong information on the HW45ES, it's been measured by multiple sources at 22ms with the Leo Bodnar lag test device.


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Do we know how or why the max image size is fixed at 150" - couldn't you just move the projector further back for a larger image? I get it that you start to lose brightness...
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Do we know how or why the max image size is fixed at 150" - couldn't you just move the projector further back for a larger image? I get it that you start to lose brightness...
150" is pretty big for an UST. Most of the ones I saw were limited to 100" or around there. Sony's laser projector only projects up to 120".

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so i can or can't make a 165" image?
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so i can or can't make a 165" image?
It will technically go as "big" as you want moving the projector further and further back...Problem is it will probably start to lose square corners, focusing abilities, brightness uniformity, etc. if pushed beyond the recommended distance.

There's only so much those interesting/warped lenses and mirrors can do
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It will technically go as "big" as you want moving the projector further and further back...Problem is it will probably start to lose square corners, focusing abilities, brightness uniformity, etc. if pushed beyond the recommended distance.

There's only so much those interesting/warped lenses and mirrors can do
So is 165 ok?
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So is 165 ok?
Maybe, but you won't know until you try it for yourself and test it in your own room. I've never owned a UST projector...I'm just going off of stuff I've read. They are interesting beasts for sure though. I don't think there's a direct answer...it may work. It may not. You may have to wait until someone else tries it for themselves
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Maybe, but you won't know until you try it for yourself and test it in your own room. I've never owned a UST projector...I'm just going off of stuff I've read. They are interesting beasts for sure though. I don't think there's a direct answer...it may work. It may not. You may have to wait until someone else tries it for themselves
Somewhat of a moot point because these have yet to be seen in the wild.
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One more review I found. From what I see its only suitable for night time viewing. But perhaps some can summarize this.

m.shafa.com/articles/A16gr4txTb2xexhB.html

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Somewhat of a moot point because these have yet to be seen in the wild.
This is listed on Gear best right now. I'm excited to hear more about it!
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This is listed on Gear best right now. I'm excited to hear more about it!
Yes but they don't have any for sale. They are merely offering to sell you one if they ever get their hands on one.
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someone got their hands on one.
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not sure how we missed this before - teardown...

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not sure how we missed this before - teardown...

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Notice he never powered it back up....
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Notice he never powered it back up....
I’m just excited to see videos and photos of this thing in the wild.

I’m rather hoping they sell enough of these that one of the US manufacturers decides they want in on this.
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I have Mi TV, its amazing. This will be good too!
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