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Epson 3100 or 3700

I want to be able to use the projector in this much light. Mostly a tv replacement.

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You think the extra lumens of 3700 would make a big difference vs. 3100 ? The price difference is pretty big for me and 3700 is too expensive. Refurbished 3100 - $800 vs $1200-1400 for 3700.

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I think you would want all the lumens you can get and obviously want a way to block as much of the outside light coming in as possible. The 3700 drops in price down to $1,299 about once a month and over Labor Day was $1,125 so don't let the current $1,499 scare you. If you control the light well enough and match it with the correct screen the 3100 will likely work as well but be sure to look at this from all three angles and not just the projector.
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I think you would want all the lumens you can get and obviously want a way to block as much of the outside light coming in as possible. The 3700 drops in price down to $1,299 about once a month and over Labor Day was $1,125 so don't let the current $1,499 scare you. If you control the light well enough and match it with the correct screen the 3100 will likely work as well but be sure to look at this from all three angles and not just the projector.
The refurbished 3100 is currently for $799 from epson website so that makes it difficult to compare to $1200 for 3700. Can't return it though once I buy.
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I got the 3700 a few weeks ago and I'd suggest going for the brighter projector for you room. Keep in mind the lamp dims over time.

I have a fairly bright room (off white walls) and with the lights on (5 hundred watt lights in ceiling) it looks good on the lowest light setting.


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I should add that your room needs to be darker for a projector. The thumb is my 1800 lumen projector with a new lamp on the highest setting on a cloudy day in my family room. It looks like crap compared to the 70".
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@retrosyn , you need to be realistic and understand the fact that ambient light is the mortal enemy of front projection. The 3700 can produce about 12% more lumens than the 3100. But that 12% more lumens can easily be wiped out by 12% more ambient light in the room. If you are on a limited budget you just can't beat a refurbished 3100 for $799 along with better management of the ambient light in your room, which doesn't really cost that much to achieve. That's going to give you a bigger bang for your buck than a 3700 with no ambient light management.
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Curious, as someone considering an Epson projector for a somewhat light room... any initial thoughts on the brand new 2150 vs. 3100?


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Curious, as someone considering an Epson projector for a somewhat light room... any initial thoughts on the brand new 2150 vs. 3100?
The 2150 is so new that only a few people actually own one. You can find them in the 2100/2150 thread. To the best of my knowledge none of the 2150 owners has also viewed a 3100. It will take some time before there are good comparisons.
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Just installed my 3100 last night and it looks great so far. It is darn bright and a little noisier than the HD33 it replaced. I think I am going to try a ND2 filter to see what difference it makes because I've already darkened it as much as possible and some white scenes are still a little intense. Does anyone have any ideas about what size would work the best? Thanks

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Picked up some Sasmung 5100 3D glasses and they seem to work very well so far without any noticeable crosstalk or ghosting. I'm hoping the battery level indicator that shows up on the projector screen is wrong because it seems to be dropping quicker than it should be.

Also tried out the ND2 filter. It does a nice job of lowering the brightness in my dark room and seems pretty subtle. That being said I think I've gotten used to the extra brightness and like it more without the filter. I also didn't notice any real change in black level, just acted more like a dimmer mode than eco.

If anyone has any calibration settings they want to share i would enjoy trying them out. I have stayed pretty close to stock settings but have adjusted gamma down to -1 and brightness down to 45 or 46 with default color settings.

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