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While spending a few HOURS looking at all the digital projector gallery pictures, I was wondering if people have galleries just for their x1. I see all these $10000 theaters with 125" screens and berkline theater seating, but what's the average guy doing? I'm just on a couch with a 60" 4:3. I'm getting ready to build a 72" 16:9 screen, but that's still nothing compared to what these galleries show. I think it would be interesting to compare comparable setups.
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My pics will be up soon enough.....X1 on a 106" screen, Paradigm 7.1 speaker set up, around a black leather couch with bass shakers installed. :) I will add another couch soon for a second row...

The room is a dedicated theater, with movie posters and all of my 800+ DVDs in it. :) Light is never an issue.

I even had the walls painted a dark gray. My link below is WAY outdated now.
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Maybe I've just lost the whole "theater" idea, but I figure that if you're going to have this massive a/v setup and 100+ screen, then you would probably not have an x1. I'd like to set up something nice, but there's no way I can do $500-$1000 for a single seat. Let alone, $1000 for a screen that can push an x1 to those sizes. I could do a 124" 16:9 in my basement and rock, but could the x1 really push it? The foot/lamberts are dropping to like 10 and that's too low.
I don't know...
The two just seem opposed to each other. Kind of like the ricers that soup up Neons.
Hehehe...
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No ricer here....Porsche all the way. That is another subject though.

The X1 CAN push a 100" screen. I am using a Da-Lite screen that only cost around $300 and it looks great... I sit about 15 feet back from the screen and my room is ALWAYS dark.

Granted, it does not look as good as my 65" RPTV but it does look very nice and the bigger picture gives more of a "theater" experience.

I will eventually upgrade to an Infocus 5700 or 7200 but for the next year or so I can live with the X1.

I would not push anything over 110" on the X1 though but 72" would be too small for me.
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I'd say I'm doing less than average, especially around here. I have my X1 on stackable shelves I got from target. I stacked them up to about 6 and a half feet and put the X1 on the top shelf. It just looks like a tall skinny bookshelf. I'm projecting an 8'x6' picture onto a white wall and am using a Sony home theater in a box system for sound. Nothing impressive, but I can't have it too loud being in a 2nd floor apartment. The best thing about my setup is it's very discrete with the small speakers and the projector almost hidden out of sight.

Maybe someday I'll take pictures and put them in the gallery for a laugh, but I didn't put much effort into the system, so there isn't much motivation :)

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I have Logitech z340 2.1 channel computer speakers pushing my sound.
Hehehe...

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72" is the biggest that I can go given my room size. It's 10' from screen to lens. Downstairs I could go much larger, but my pool table is down there.
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I think there are many average folks running X1's....especially since many X1 threads also include DYI screens, cables, how to find the cheap panny DVD players, etc.

Another facet of the X1 owners club are folks who hesitate to spend > $1K on a technology that is moving incredibly fast..I know; I almost bought an HS-10 last year and then backed off...and now look at the feeding frenzy with the HS-20.

Finally there is that group just doing PJ for the first time (me again) and so the X1 seems like the most cost effective way to dive in.

Me? Bonus family room over the garage 14' by 20'; shoot the short way; 10 year old couch and a dalite hipower $300 4:3 70" screen I pull down in front of the 32" TV.
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I just put up some pics of my X1 in action.

I'm using a different setup than most -- its not quite constant height, and its not quite constant area.

16:9 is 106" diag, 2.35:1 is 122" diag.

http://www.adrian.edu/~bmaggard/hometheater/
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What did you build your screen with? Also, how did you do the different ar's, with the zoom?
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Click on the link next to my reply that says "gallery" I have some pictures of my X1 setup. I probably have about $3000.00 invested in my whole setup including my audio equipment and HTPC. My screen is a 80" parkland plastic, My projector mount is also DIY. MY other equpment: Pioneer vsx-d811s Receiver set-up for 6.1. using JBL cinema series speakers with 12" BIC subwoofer. The HTPC is a dell P4 1.6 with an ATI all-in-woner 7500 radeon video card. which is my dvd source for the X1. My system is pretty modest but I get a tremendous amount of use out of it and really enjoy it. I do love to look at pictures of some of the really expensive and elaborate setups maybe someday when i win the lotto I will have something similar ; ) But the bottom line is you don't have to spend a ton of money to have a nice setup.
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I bought my X1 because it was a bargin FP and it was on sale. My screen is a parkland. My X1 is sitting on DIY adjustable shelves. My Kenwood 6.1 receiver was my Christmas present to myself last year. My speakers are mismatched used piece I've bought from a co-worker and a yard sale. I did buy a new DVD/VCR to save space. I originally planned on using our 7year old sectional couches for our room. While looking for a sectional we priced at $1800, we found some HT recliners. My wife and I quickly realize we would be sitting in the HT room more than the living room so the expense of new couches (this year) would be best spent on the HT recliners we found (Berkline 099's) which cost about the same a good individual recliner. My overall room will not look like a professional theatre. In fact the walls and adjustable shelves will be covered with "collectables" and movie toys. (See my room layout in gallery).
To each his/her own based on their budget, taste, and desire.
I have 400+ movies DVDs and no kids, I deserve a HT. :)

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doublej: Its blackout cloth and 1x2's. Masking for 16:9 is cheap as hell black fabric. 2.35:1 movies have two bars on top and bottom of screen maybe 2" wide (you can see then if you look close at the LOTR:TT pics) Entire screen and masking was probably $45 in materials.

I do the aspect ratio change with the zoom on the X1.

I end up with a 92.45"x52" 16:9 screen at the absolute smallest zoom setting, and 112"x47.6" 2.35:1 at the max zoom. Screen&throw distance was designed using the X1 calculator.

heres a pic with me standing in front of the screen http://www.adrian.edu/~bmaggard/me.JPG heh, sorry its blurry, timer on the camera my wife wasnt around.
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You gotta love that 4:3 spill off a 16:9 screen!!!
BTW...
Don't look into the lamp.
Hehehe...
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I guess I should probably give my setup, too, since there has been some good response to this thread.
I have an X1 (of course) that I got for $875 from Dell. I made a DIY mount for about $8. It's a 3/4" pipe nipple with a floor flange at each end. The top screws into the wall and the bottom screws into a chunk of plywood. The plywood then screws into the x1. The screen is a DIY 4'x3' cut of plywood, painted white, and covered with some bright white fabric from Wal-Mart. Then I edged it with black electrical tape for contrast. That was all about $10. I'm pushing sound through Logitech z340's. Those are a 2.1 channel for about $60.
On the htpc side, it's a cel1.2 overclocked to 1.6 (100mhz fsb to 133mhz fsb). It has a wd1200jb hard drive and 256 or 512mb ram. I forget which. It has the requisite dvd-rom drive and an aiw9000pro. VGA-VGA is piped to the x1. In retrospect, I would have purchased a hitachi 120gb instead of the wd, but what's done is done. I love the aiw with the remote wonder.
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actually, my screen is about 2.15:1 :D
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I'd say I'm doing less than average, especially around here. I have my X1 on stackable shelves I got from target. I stacked them up to about 6 and a half feet and put the X1 on the top shelf. It just looks like a tall skinny bookshelf. I'm projecting an 8'x6' picture onto a white wall and am using a Sony home theater in a box system for sound. Nothing impressive, but I can't have it too loud being in a 2nd floor apartment. The best thing about my setup is it's very discrete with the small speakers and the projector almost hidden out of sight.

Maybe someday I'll take pictures and put them in the gallery for a laugh, but I didn't put much effort into the system, so there isn't much motivation :)
Sounds like you have the PERFECT system for YOU. Mine (with the X1) will be a bit bigger using used components and speakers I've found online and I hope it will be PERFECT for ME. I guess thats what this is all about. I've been really happy with this forum and all of the great people on it. Everybody seems to respect where others are coming from. Cheers!
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I'm a looser and forgot to take the camera home for the weekend. Fortunately, though, I'm planning to build my 72" 16:9 this weekend. Hopefully, I'll have some pictures for the beginning of next week. I'll probably be using Parkland or blackout cloth.
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nice setup Vantorax. Masking will help dramatically -- you'll be surprised, you have good things to look forward to.
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I certainly wouldn't be ashamed of that picture. Say, what is your seating distance. It looks like your coffee table is only like 5' from the wall and your screen looks to be ~92".
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I just completed my project this past weekend (after lurking here for a few months). My setup, as it stands:
X1
100" Da-Lite Model B (80x60)
Denon AVR 1604 Receiver
Denon DVD-1600
Infinity Reference Bookshelfs and center (can't remember exact models), RS-2 rears, BU120 Sub
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This is all sitting in a 15x15 dedicated theater room. I bought a four (reclining) seat sofa, which puts the viewing distance about 14' from the screen. I did a ceiling height (~8ft) shelf mount, hardware purchased at home depot. Components are all in a Target-bought TV stand :)
I'm forced to tell everyone that sees it "don't worry, it all costs less than a big screen TV". And it's true, I've had so much fun researching/purchasing/assembing everything, and it's amazing it all costs a lot less than a decent RPTV.
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Any pics? Hopefully, I'll remember to take the camera home tonight and snap some.
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Everything I have is "entry level" (aka cheap) but I love it. Ya gotta start some where! 5 pics in my gallery
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That's a really interesting paint idea. Is that to help reduce reflected light? I have cream walls and a white ceiling. I was thinking about affixing some black fabric to the ceiling where the light reflects.
BTW...
I have the camera in my possession. Expect pictures tomorrow.
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what is that black mount you are using?
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I don't see what's to be ashamed of. I think your room looks awesome. :)
Thanks, BTW I'm not ashamed , its just that the whole project construction materials, AV components and all is undr $8000, some people have that to spend just on the projector!
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fishhead65...
That's a really interesting paint idea. Is that to help reduce reflected light? I have cream walls and a white ceiling. I was thinking about affixing some black fabric to the ceiling where the light reflects.
BTW...
I have the camera in my possession. Expect pictures tomorrow.
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The dark green paint made a tremendous improvement in image quality. My room is narrow (11.5feet) so I got alot of relection back into the projector path. the dark rug in front helped too.
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what is that black mount you are using?
It is a DIY mount. The black part is a clamping device for a thickness caliper I found laying around a machine shop. My friend who works there mounted it onto a piece of aluminum stock and drilled the 3 holes for the X1. I then mounted the whole thing to the maple board whic is stained to match the trim.
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I have a couple pictures posted to my gallery (click the gallery button). Also, I have high-resolution versions in a temp folder of my website (www.anti-exe.com).
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Temp is now down and replaced with a photo gallery.
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