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If you think the 48hz setting looks good, try the 72.

Does the 72hz setting look sharper, more detail over the 48hz settings?

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Does the 72hz setting look sharper, more detail over the 48hz settings?

72 would be 33% better than 48, wouldn't it?

Just kidding- the color wheel is spinning faster than at 48, and it's a 3:3 frame pulldown (48 is 2:2, no real difference except for the math, I think) so some have mentioned they think it looks a little sharper. This may be from the faster color wheel speed.

They both look good- try and see what you like! I was just astounded at the detail in the King Kong transfer last night, just beautiful!
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Does the 72hz setting look sharper, more detail over the 48hz settings?

I don't feel it does, 48Hz looks best to me. It could be psycosomatic, as the two are not displayed side by side and visual memory can be rather short, but 48hz seems to have a slight edge in the believable see through window quality, but they both look good.
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Man, it looks like everyone has now gotton all the info they wanted for their D1 and 4805 combo (resolution numbers, loader info, firmwares, capacitor info, etc.)

I guess this thread has served it's purpose. Have a nice Holiday weekend everyone!

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Man, it looks like everyone has now gotton all the info they wanted for their D1 and 4805 combo (resolution numbers, loader info, firmwares, capacitor info, etc.)

I guess this thread has served it's purpose. Have a nice Holiday weekend everyone!

I think people are just enjoying life away from their computers, and hopefully actually watching *movies* on their D1/4805!

Finishing King Kong (we'd stopped about an hour in before Kong even showed up) it still looked beautiful, but the middle part of the movie was just totally over the top with all the dinosaurs, bugs, bats, etc.- my wife was totally grossed out! I don't know what Peter Jackson was thinking!

Oh well, I know I would have enjoyed it less if it hadn't been pixel mapped
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I've read quite a bit in the last few weeks and know I need to do a Mod & replace 1 Cap. According to Cavu the loader should be OK. BUT...

I got my D1 from Newegg (on tues.) and 25ft. Mono DVI cable. First played a CD no problem. My first attempt of playing a DVD and the D1 Menu screen went black and it played the Audio but was skipping. Tried another DVD... same thing. Played a CD no problem. Tried a DvD over Component and got a picture but frozen Menu. Back to DVI and same thing... then all of a sudden it decided to play. My friend and I did some Comparing between Component and DVI and my Denon 1815. We watched a movie. After the movie we played some CDs then...

When I put in the next DvD the screen came up Purple with Green vertical lines every few inches. Hmmmm? So I've tried "diagnosing" it... the 1st DvD menu screen will start and freeze... I open/close the tray and it plays. I then put in 5-7 DvDs and they all played. It seems as though if I play a CD after that it acts up on DvDs and eventually will work.

What would you guys do?
Send it back to Newegg and try another or is this normal and just do the Mods and see what happens?

Is it normal that the display doesn't give any Info. besides the Time. No track number or anything? What does the Display on the remote supposed to do.

I'm starting to wonder if this player will really be worth it. So far it is a little more Vivid than my Denon over Component but I'm not as impressed or Amazed like so many others have posted. When I read... "It's now like 3D!!!" "Even my Wife went crazy!" My friend and I both could see a difference but not really life changing. Maybe when I go from 60Hz to the 72hz or 48hz It'll really shine.

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Yeah, 1:1 pixel map may be a differece certainly. Anyway, I think you need to do the cap replacement to really diagnose if there is a problem. Without the adequate voltage, the D1 acts inconsistently and unpredictably. Hell, I ran it great for a week with an exploded reversed polarity cap but then it started to act very weirdly.

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........ just do the Mods and see what happens?

Is it normal that the display doesn't give any Info.


......without the mod YES



I would like someone to run the custom number at 852 @ 48hz and 72hz, and 853x480 at 48hz, 60hz and 72hz. When I use the online calculator a lot of values don't fill in. Is 853 the true basic resolution of a DVD I've hear everything from 852,853 and 854 and 848 for computers. It seems there should be only one true best case as far as the DVD is encoded. 854 can't be 1:1 if 852 is or 853 is only one of them can truly be 1:1, and other than and what is the purpose of 852(appears to be a 1:1 setting option in the D1 and is VERY sharp) and 853 if 854 is 1:1.
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......without the mod YES



I would like someone to run the custom number at 852 @ 48hz and 72hz, and 853x480 at 48hz, 60hz and 72hz. When I use the online calculator a lot of values don't fill in. Is 853 the true basic resolution of a DVD I've hear everything from 852,853 and 854 and 848 for computers. It seems there should be only one true best case as far as the DVD is encoded. 854 can't be 1:1 if 852 is or 853 is only one of them can truly be 1:1, and other than and what is the purpose of 852(appears to be a 1:1 setting option in the D1 and is VERY sharp) and 853 if 854 is 1:1.


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Your using the D1 to scale dvd's to your displays native resolution. Your 4805 is 854X480. By using the D1 your scaling the image to that exact resolution. Thereby having it 1:1 pixel mapped. If the 4805 was 852X480 then using the D1's preset would have you at 1:1 pixel mapped, but the refresh rate would not be the best for film based material.

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This might be a dumb question. I get that film movies are film and TV shows are video, but what are movies that are animated? ... like Finding Nemo or Movies that were shot using HD cameras like Sin City or The Cave? I guess I can always just have it on film mode and if it starts to jitter just switch to video mode.
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rrhomes,

Your using the D1 to scale dvd's to your displays native resolution. Your 4805 is 854X480. By using the D1 your scaling the image to that exact resolution. Thereby having it 1:1 pixel mapped. If the 4805 was 852X480 then using the D1's preset would have you at 1:1 pixel mapped, but the refresh rate would not be the best for film based material.

Yes and no, by setting the 4805 to native, you are displaying what's sent to it without scaling. So the only difference between 852x480 and 854x480 is one row of pixels on each side, otherwise the image is exactly the same (assuming the same refresh rate)

So no, 852x480 isn't technically 1:1 pixel mapped for every pixel of the 4805, but there is probably no visual difference from 854x480, especially if you have any overscan onto your screen frame like I do. . .
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rrhomes,

Your using the D1 to scale dvd's to your displays native resolution. Your 4805 is 854X480. By using the D1 your scaling the image to that exact resolution. Thereby having it 1:1 pixel mapped. If the 4805 was 852X480 then using the D1's preset would have you at 1:1 pixel mapped, but the refresh rate would not be the best for film based material.


True 1:1 is when what the DVD is encoded at is what is projected(not when the output of the player matches your PJ). The 720x480 scales to square pixels at somewhere between 854-852. One of those should be the truest scale either 854 or 852 it can't be both. 1:1 isn't just matching your display devise to your player exactly. 1:1 is when you display 1 square pixel for 1 square of info/source perfectly. So if a DVD was lets just say 360 bx 240 exactly half of what DVD's are then 1:1 would be 427/426,x240 and if your player could out put that at 854x480 it would not be 1:1, even though it came strait from the player at 854x480. The 720 oblong pixels scale out to square pixels at either 854 or 852. It cant be both and I've heard both mentioned as the true scale.

Read down under DVD resolution on the link below. It says 852x480 and if thats the true pixel count for dvd's then when we input the custom 854 numbers we really are losing sharpness ground because we are taking 852 and making it fit in 854 when in fact it should be left at 852 and not scaled away from the true 852x480 which is perfect 1:1 when using native mode. The more I search the more I find that DVD's are 852x480. Why then have so many set the custom numbers to 854x480 you may ask? I can only speculate it's because they want to use evey pixel that the SP4805 has - but that isn't smart if the true resolution is 852x480 because your choping up 852 pixels to fit in 854 which kills the 1:1 and 1:1 is the ultimate sharpness, and keeping 1:1 has priority over all. So IF DVD's are truly 852x480 then we should have our PJ's set to 852x480 at any custom hz we like but the 852x480 is the most important part of that, as it keeps 1:1 intact as long as your PJ is set to native. If I find out that DVD's are truly 852x480 I'll be shocked that 854 is the number pushed here as opposed to just dropping the 96 pixels(1 line on each side of the 854) to keep the 1:1. I'm pretty sure someone can't just say DVD's are both 854 and 852. They have to have a basic number and I keep finding 852x480 as that basic number. I'll let one of the scholars around here verify or correct me but if DVD's are encoded for square pixel count of 852x480 then we are making a huge mistake to scale away from that especially for just 2 more pixels. Give the 852 built in resolution on the D1 a try and tell me if it doesn't look a tad sharper(be sure to have your PJ set to native).

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If it turns out that DVD's are native 852x480 then I will be stunned that anyone of the forum kings have pushed the 854 number just to use every pixel on the SP4805. It's like the new DLPs that are 1280x768 instead of 1280x720. To make a 720 program the clearest/sharpest you don't want to use the 768 pixel you want to turn them off or use native so only the 720 are used and the 1:1 is not lost or force to fit the 768.

We need to get verified the true DVD square pixels basic resolution. is it 854x480 or 852x480. Which ever one it is then that should be the ONLY RESOLUTION USED as it's the ONLY TRUE 1:1. then 48hz 60hz or 72hz is personal preference.

The only reason I ever assumed that a DVD was 854 instead of 852 was the fact that why would TI make a chip that was 2 pixels off of the native resolution of 852, now I realise that was a bad assumption as thats just what TI did for whatever reasons.
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Hey Guys!

Hello from a slow connection in Wellington NewZealand. Hard to read and absorb the thread activity since I last visited but a quick comment: Bravo provided the 852x480 preset resolution option because that was the resolution of the Gateway Plasma units (which I believe were the first on the market). As to whether 854 or 852 is the correct hoizontal number, you try multiplying 480 by 16 and dividing by nine and see what you get.

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Quickly, I have heard there is new firmware for the IN72 already on the InFocus site.

I have the D1 from NewEgg. Did the cap replacement but am having issues with DVD loading and playing correctly. Maybe I can describe the issues and someone can tell me if they are related to the loader?

I watched part of Fabulous Baker Boys the other night, played perfectly w/o incident with all settings correct. Last night, I watched In the Bedroom, both without a hitch. After In the Bedroom, I decided to watch the rest of Fabulous Baker Boys.
The audio would come up but no video.
Opened and shut the door, still no video.
Put in Ghost World and it started up no problem.
Put back in FBB, audio no video still.
Turned the D1 off/on with the button on the front panel.
FBB started up but in 4:3 mode. Went into the menu and 16:9 WAS selected.
Unplugged unit and tried again, still in 4:3 mode even though 16:9 was selected. I even turned the DVD over (4:3 on the other side) and absolutely no difference. Set the D1 to 4:3 and it would play 16:9.
Switched back to 16:9 and tried Ghost World again and it played in 16:9 mode.
Put back in FBB and switched the D1 to 4:3 mode and FBB displayed in 16:9.
Switched the D1 back to 16:9 and put in Gross Anatomy and it displayed in 16:9, watched it and went to bed.

Are these symtoms of a loader problem? Why would FBB display in 4:3 when the D1 shows 16:9 was selected?

I'm prepared to put in a new loader if that is what is needed. What is the latest word on the preferred loader? Also, what issues should I be aware of before, during and after the mod?

Thank you for the help,
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My 1st IN72 arrived about 2 weeks ago. It was so loud, InFocus replaced it. The replacement arrived but had lamp flicker. I was using it while waiting for the 2nd replacement and the flicker got so bad, I considered if it would explode or something (my very first projector so am a complete novice and know next to nothing, everything I know I learned on these boards). The 3rd replacement got here yesterday. No lamp flicker that I can see but this thing is the loudest of the 3 I think. I can't understand how anybody could describe the IN72 as quiet by any stretch of the imagination.

I feel very sorry for 4805 owners if it is indeed true that the IN72 on high power is quieter than the 4805 on low power. I can hear my IN72 on low power from 2 rooms away. And, I have 3 of them sitting here and they ALL sound very close to the same. There is no way I have 3 'odd' units that are noisy and everybody else's are quiet.

When I turn mine on, it is very quiet while sitting on the counter with nothing attached to any input. Once the lamp gets hot, it does get a bit noisier but acceptable. When I mount it to the ceiling and put an image to it, it ramps up to almost the exact noise level of high lamp mode. If there is a difference, it is almost imperceptable to my ears. If I cycle between high lamp mode and back to low lamp mode, the IN72 cycles down to the very quiet state. BUT, it only stays there for about 5 seconds then begins ramping up again to the normal noise level, which is to say loud.

I love the image but am very disappointed in the level of noise coming from my IN72. I have plenty of space around my IN72 so it isn't my setup causing undue heat buildup. One night, our living room was only 65 degrees and my IN72 was still loud enough to be heard over every part of the movie we were watching. Sorry for venting...

I really would appreciate any advice on the D1 issue I am having.
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Either you've gotten 3 of the loudest units ever built on Earth for whatever reason (highly improbable) or you are incredibly sensitive to fan noise (highly probable). Since you don't have any experience with any other PJs to use as a comparative, does the noise of a computer fan stand out to you too? (The spinning thing, not some guy yelling "I sure LOVE computers!" ) If so, you'll need to build a hush box around your unit. There are plenty of instuctions around the forum on how to do it.
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Either you've gotten 3 of the loudest units ever built on Earth for whatever reason (highly improbable) or you are incredibly sensitive to fan noise (highly probable). Since you don't have any experience with any other PJs to use as a comparative, does the noise of a computer fan stand out to you too? (The spinning thing, not some guy yelling "I sure LOVE computers!" ) If so, you'll need to build a hush box around your unit. There are plenty of instuctions around the forum on how to do it.

Well, the fact that I can hear the projector over a 650 watt sound system AND from 2 rooms away (not at the same time) does say something doesn't it?

You are correct though, I have no previous projector experience with the exception of an InFocus business projector, they are both noisy.

Like I've said though, there is a quiet mode when you first turn it on AND when you cycle away from high lamp mode to low lamp mode, but it only stays that quiet for a few seconds. I'm wondering what that setting is for if it only stays at that setting for 5 seconds, what's its purpose?

The sound level coming from the IN72's that I have sitting here are comparable to my 25cu.ft. side by side fridge. I can hear that thing come on when watching movies from the next room over. I would consider that loud too. BUT, it is in the kitchen, not directly over my head.

I'm happy with the picture but very disappointed in the noise level. I see there is new firmware but I guess you need a special cable to be able to upgrade it.

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When switching from the high lamp mode to low lamp mode, is the image staying at the lower lumen level, or is it also switching back to higher lumens within the same 5 seconds? The 150 lumen difference should be visible rather easily in a light controlled room or at night. During the day, it may be a bit harder to distinguish.
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When I mount it to the ceiling and put an image to it, it ramps up to almost the exact noise level of high lamp mode. If I cycle between high lamp mode and back to low lamp mode, the IN72 cycles down to the very quiet state. BUT, it only stays there for about 5 seconds then begins ramping up again to the normal noise level, which is to say loud.

and U aren't the ONLY 1 complaining of this....
over in the PRESS RELEASE: New Infocus Lineup - 720p Dlp $2999 thread

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Is the IN76 supposed to automatically and permanently go into "high" fan mode whenever the projector is ceiling mounted despite the menu selection?

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No, it is not. The fans should only increase in speed if the internal temperature sensor determines that they need to for keeping everything within thermal limits.

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Bob, If I wanted to build a hush box around an IN76 to vent the heat into my attic, do you happen to have any specifications for what the ambient temperature inside the box should be?

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The ambient temperature should be no higher than 35C (95F) and the input and exhaust air should be separated to prevent recirculation. Also, the venting should be set up so that the pressure drop (both from the intake side and exhaust side) is no greater than the projector would experience in a normal free-air environment.

sounds like 2me that the Boys at Infocus engineering didn't Beta-Test IN7x units ceiling mounted in their own Homes...Probable fix will no-doubt be FirmWare Limit changes for the Sensor when Ceiling mounted...
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When switching from the high lamp mode to low lamp mode, is the image staying at the lower lumen level, or is it also switching back to higher lumens within the same 5 seconds? The 150 lumen difference should be visible rather easily in a light controlled room or at night. During the day, it may be a bit harder to distinguish.

Yes, when switching between high lamp and low lamp, the light output changes the instant you make the switch and stays there until/unless you switch again.

What I don't notice is the noise level switching between high/low lamp mode.

Going from low lamp mode to high lamp mode, noise level does not seem to go up. If it does, it isn't very noticeable.

Going from high lamp mode to low lamp mode, noise level drops to almost silent, BUT only for a couple of seconds. Then, it ramps back up.

Again, light output changes appropriately according to lamp mode selected, high or low. Sound output does not (or changes very little) change when going from low lamp mode to high lamp mode. When going from high lamp mode to low lamp mode, noise level drops to almost silent for about 5 seconds, then ramps back up to, what I call normal noise level. This normal noise level does not seem to be affected by high or low lamp mode, with the exception of the initial switch to low lamp mode from high lamp mode.

As always, the picture kicks ass...
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bub,
Mouw did post the link to the new IF PJ thread. Maybe the members there would be better qualified to answer your inquiry as they have more experience with your particular unit. That being said, you made reference to the PJ being in the kitchen, if I understood you correctly. Most kitchens are made up of linoleum and or tile, with great potential for sound reverberation and amplification of such fan noise as would come from the PJ, not to metion the trapping of heat, which would lead to the sensor detecting a need for greater fan speed than normal conditions. ("Normal" conditions would entail placement in a HT room, composed of more condusive, sound-deadening materials.)

Perhaps try the PJ in a different room just as a sound test. Try to pick one that is cool, with carpet and other things that can absorb some of the sound. If that allievates the issue, then you'll know you will need to construct a hush box in your kitchen if you plan to keep it mounted there. If not, it sounds like it might be something you'll have to learn to live with until there is a firmware upgrade or return the unit.
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Mouw did post the link to the new IF PJ thread. Maybe the members there would be better qualified to answer your inquiry as they have more experience with your particular unit. That being said, you made reference to the PJ being in the kitchen, if I understood you correctly. Most kitchens are made up of linoleum and or tile, with great potential for sound reverberation and amplification of such fan noise as would come from the PJ, not to metion the trapping of heat, which would lead to the sensor detecting a need for greater fan speed than normal conditions. ("Normal" conditions would entail placement in a HT room, composed of more condusive, sound-deadening materials.)

Perhaps try the PJ in a different room just as a sound test. Try to pick one that is cool, with carpet and other things that can absorb some of the sound. If that allievates the issue, then you'll know you will need to construct a hush box in your kitchen if you plan to keep it mounted there. If not, it sounds like it might be something you'll have to learn to live with until there is a firmware upgrade or return the unit.

Spyder, I don't have my projector mounted in my kitchen, it is in my living room. I mention the kitchen table as where I initially turned on the projector(s) in an upright position to gauge the noise level.

The noise level is much quieter in the kitchen sitting right side up, than it is in the living room mounted upside down on my ceiling. The only differences I can tell are, obviously the orientation, and in my kitchen I am not feeding a source to the projector.

I'm stumped.

Does anybody have any ideas regarding my D1 and/or loader issues in my post a few back?

Thanks for all the input,
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Sorry, I misunderstood the post in regard to the PJ placement.
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Hello from a slow connection in Wellington NewZealand. Hard to read and absorb the thread activity since I last visited but a quick comment: Bravo provided the 852x480 preset resolution option because that was the resolution of the Gateway Plasma units (which I believe were the first on the market). As to whether 854 or 852 is the correct hoizontal number, you try multiplying 480 by 16 and dividing by nine and see what you get.

853.33 which rounds down to 853. I had 853 as an option but deleted it because it's the least heard of at least for me. If there is no perfect round number and 853.33 is as close as the math allows then I would think 853 would be the best. But I find it hard to believe that the Moving Picture Experts Group would have settled on such an odd number. Maybe since it's 853.33 it in effect becomes 854 as the .33 extends into the 854th pixel. Why then do so many refer to DVD's as 852x480? Because that would clearly be wrong if the 853.33 number is the right math equation. Like I said I don't know I'm just trying to find out what is considered the true 1:1 for DVD's, maybe it is cropped to 852 on all DVD's making 852 the True 1:1. Or like I said above maybe the .33 is the 854th pixel.
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rrhomes,

If I remember correctly, having read it somewhere, dvd's are 852x480. Sure the math is off, but it is my belief that's it's the latter in your above post with the .33 being the that very last pixel...or part of it anyway.

Have you tried a custom setting with 852 and/or 853? Results? I'd be willing to use a custom resolution of 852 or 853 if it did in fact give that much better of an image! I might have to do some experimenting/evaluating when I get home. Away at the in-laws for the Easter Bunny!

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Shyte,

new numbers maybe.
Interesting though, I'm using the 48hz setting, (the 1110 set of numbers I think) and 854.
My left most and right most line of vertical pixels is darker, and the row of pixels directly on the inside of those rows is slightly dark also.
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I get that film movies are film and TV shows are video, but what are movies that are animated? ... like Finding Nemo or Movies that were shot using HD cameras like Sin City or The Cave?
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If I remember correctly, having read it somewhere, dvd's are 852x480. Sure the math is off, but it is my belief that's it's the latter in your above post with the .33 being the that very last pixel...or part of it anyway.

Have you tried a custom setting with 852 and/or 853? Results? I'd be willing to use a custom resolution of 852 or 853 if it did in fact give that much better of an image! I might have to do some experimenting/evaluating when I get home. Away at the in-laws for the Easter Bunny!

No but 852 on the D1 looks the sharpest to me. When I run the numbers I get lots of blanks, thats why I asked for someone here to run 852@48hz and 72hz and 853 @48hz,60hz and72 hz. So we can all have them and try them.
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No but 852 on the D1 looks the sharpest to me. When I run the numbers I get lots of blanks, thats why I asked for someone here to run 852@48hz and 72hz and 853 @48hz,60hz and72 hz. So we can all have them and try them.

rrhomes,

Try the custom DVI program HERE using the origional 48hz & 72hz settings. All the numbers remain pretty much the same except for the PreHsync.

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No but 852 on the D1 looks the sharpest to me. When I run the numbers I get lots of blanks, thats why I asked for someone here to run 852@48hz and 72hz and 853 @48hz,60hz and72 hz. So we can all have them and try them.

OK, guys, I'm confused. If dvd is 852x480, why do we need the Bravo at all? If the native dvd resolution at 480p is the basic resolution of our displays, we could run in native off a regular 480p player.

My understanding is that the Bravo is scaling, but by scaling once to the native resolution of the 4805 we get the cleanest picture because we only scale once and leave the pj in native.

What am I missing here?
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