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Does anyone have any info. about this projector from Cedia? I read about it on the main page at Satelliteguys.us. It says it's 1280X720, 5000:1 contrast ratio, Dynamic Iris, vertical and horizontal lens shift, MSRP $999, due in November. It also says it has a D5 panel, Does that mean it's an LCD? Google shows nothing about this projector.
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Never mind. I found out at Projectorreviews.com it's an LCD. DAMMIT !!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cool if this thing has pip then I'm going to get one. I love LCD Projectors.
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BenQ showed one new entry level 720p projector, their W500, scheduled to ship late November or December. The W500 is scheduled to sell for $999, making it the only other 720p projector (besides the Optoma HD70) at the show with a sub-$1000 price point. The W500 is rated at 1100 lumens and 5000:1 contrast, and a quiet 28db. They did not have a working demo W500 projector. Unlike the lower resolution W100 which we reviewed, and had a great price point, but was weak on black level performance, BenQ promises that the W500, is not only aggressively priced, but will provide dramatically improved image quality performance, which will hopefully rival the excellent picture quality of their PE-7700.

This is the second bomb dropped at Cedia...
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How on earth will Panasonic be able to sell their new overpriced LCD now is beyond me. The only thing I can figure is they will sell more to those who want a really big screen.
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How on earth will Panasonic be able to sell their new overpriced LCD now is beyond me.

They'll probably offer a $600 rebate that will take 6-8 months to arrive, and a $400 Blockbuster card that's really only worth $100
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Since when does Benq sell LCD projectors?
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How on earth will Panasonic be able to sell their new overpriced LCD now is beyond me. The only thing I can figure is they will sell more to those who want a really big screen.

..or think they'll be able to get a great picture with the lights on. You can see a 2000 lumen projector in a bright room, but it ain't exactly bursting with vibrant color.

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..or think they'll be able to get a great picture with the lights on. You can see a 2000 lumen projector in a bright room, but it ain't exactly bursting with vibrant color.

I wouldn't watch any projector in unshaed ambient light. I always shade the light to keep direct rays off of the screen. If you shade the light even a 4805 can put out a suprisingly good picture.

I had my 4805 at 13+' wide and it did very well in this lighting condition. So, I'm sure the Panny would do better. I always block off all sunlight.
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How on earth will Panasonic be able to sell their new overpriced LCD now is beyond me. The only thing I can figure is they will sell more to those who want a really big screen.

Projector owners who want a really big screen? Wow, that's just crazy talk
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Projector owners who want a really big screen? Wow, that's just crazy talk




I'm in that group. I'm wanting to go 13' wide at 16:9 and 17.16' wide with a horizontal expansion anamorphic lens, so I could use the brightness. However, I don't better blacks and shadow detail than LCD can provide. So, I will either use the HD70 or go big with a CRT stack (probably on a torus) or try a CRT blend.
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Can anybody link to confirmation (other than satelliteguys) that this is an LCD projector? I sort of assumed they just got it wrong...way wrong.

I couldn't find anything at projectorreviews.com that indicated it's an LCD.

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LOL you are right, it must be a DLP pj... I read the projectorreview's quote again, and the W100 is a DLP pj. Highly improbable that the same family name will include pj's of different flavours. Also they say that the W500 will look as good as the PE-7700m which again is a DLP pj.
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I don't know, haven't I read that verticale and horizontal lens shift is expensive to implement for DLP? If so, I doubt they could sell this for $999 MSRP. I'm thinking either the specs are wrong (no lens shift), or this is in fact an LCD unit. But I would love to be proved wrong
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NickB,
The chances that the W500 is a LCD unit, are roughly the same as the chances that the Sanyo Z6 will be a DLP unit.
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YES, IT IS AN LCD. At Projectorreviews.com, click on Cedia 720p projectors, then click on W500. It shows "Projection type: LCD(3)".
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So basicly...nothing new to see here. Move along.

I'm still waiting (like many others) for a reasonably priced DLP with lens shift and a long throw. For example, take the HD70...and add these features. I'd be willing to pay another $500 for the flexibility.

One of the DLP companies could make a KILLING if they did this. It's only a matter of time, which company will be first?

Now, back on topic. This at least puts some downward pressure on pricing of the other LCD projectors. The zoom range on the W500 isn't so great though.

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The chances that the W500 is a LCD unit, are roughly the same as the chances that the Sanyo Z6 will be a DLP unit.

Maybe I'll hold out for that Sanyo DLP then
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Anymore news on this one?
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What's the verdict, is it LCD for sure ?.
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YES, IT'S an LCD. See post #17 above.
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With this being confirmed an LCD it marks one of the strangest marketing decisions I have ever seen. The W100 is DLP but the W500 is LCD?????

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Ok, so we know that this is an LCD. Not an issue for many people who are considering an AX100 or Z5.

So does anyone have any more info on this projector other than the basic specs I find on projectorreviews.com?

BenQ:
Brightness: 1100 lumens
Resolution: 720p
Contrast: 5000:1
Zoom: 1.20:1
Lens Shift: H & V (range unknown?)
EcoMode: 3000 hours, 28db
NormalMode: 2000 hours, 32db
MSRP: $999

Sanyo claims 10,000:1 contrast for the Z5 and it's a bit quieter, but the brightness and lamp life ratings are identical.

For a price half that of the AX100, should we be considering this projector if we can live with ONLY 5,000:1 contrast? My current projector is only _rated_ at 400:1 so this will be projector nirvana at either 5,000:1 or 10,000:1.

Estimated release date is supposed to be 'November'. Is there any more info available?

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D5 panels --> LCD
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dragonbud0, yes, like all the new 720p lcd projectors, it is D5 panels based I'm sure. Yes it is LCD.

I'm just disappointed that this whole thread basically seems to be summarized by:
PosterA: BenQ is going to make a cheap 720p projector with lens shift!
PosterB: BenQ doesn't make LCD projectors, it might be a DLP!
PosterC: BenQ W100 and BenQ W1000 are DLP, all the stuff saying it's LCD must be wrong.
PosterD: Nope, it's LCD, confirmed.
PosterE: Dang. That's really odd!
PosterF: It's LCD. Nothing to see here.
PosterG: It's LCD. Nothing to see here.
PosterH: Ok, so should we consider this as an alternative to the other LCD projectors like the Z5 and AX100?
PosterI: It's LCD. Nothing to see here.


No opinions on how well BenQ could execute an LCD design?
No more details on the specs or expected ship date?
No speculation on actual ship date?
No interest?
No commentary on why BenQ seems unable to interest people in a 720p LCD projector that's half the price of the competition?

Just "So basicly...nothing new to see here. Move along.", huh?


Should I start a new "New BenQ W500, 720p LCD Projector (yes we know it's not a DLP)" thread???




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Sorry, I'm still not convinced we are talking about an LCD projector. All the evidence comes from a smallish projectoreviews report. No confirmations anywhere. The price is WAY too low for it to be an LCD unit.

Since many people are prone to seeing distracting rainbows with current 4X/5X wheel DLP technology, an announcement of a 720 LCD pj for less than $1000 USD should have made nothing less than an earthquake, if was true. The announcement of this pj went 100% unnoticed.
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Googling reveals numerous sites around the world with specs showing it's 3 LCD 1280X720 PJ. Here are photos from satelliteguys that I had to join their forum to view (note the lens shift with the joystick in the front and HDMI in the rear):
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All I can say is good! I hope it drags prices down because that's just crazy talk what they want for that ax 100. Crazy talk! I'm in the market and i hope this thing dumps prices like the hd70 is and will do for dlp. Carry on...
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That's great !.

Any news about PQ ?.
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