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post #181 of 2606 Old 12-10-2006, 09:31 AM
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I just got my HD1000u yesterday and it truly is an incredible piece of equipment. A couple things to keep in mind about placement: an 11 foot throw is not going to get anywhere near 100 inches even at lowest zoom. Mine is just under 12 feet and I'm getting maybe a 90 inch image size maximum. Also, if it were an option for me, I would much rather do a table mount instead of my ceiling mount. The image is a bit too low for my tastes mounted right at my 8 ft. ceiling, but it's nothing I can't live with - I just prefer a fairly high screen. You might consider a permanent table mount of some sort if the image placement is good on the table.

that doesn't seem to make sense I thought this had the same throw as the HD70 with just different offset?...My hd70 throws a 108" picture not including the black border at 13'....are you measuring from the lens to wall or back of the projector??
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I have a room that is 13' wide (screen wall) and 14' deep. I know, crappy dimensions, but what am I to do.

My ceiling is also 7.5 ft high....

Am I able to use this projector for a ceiling mount for a 92" or 100" screen?

I keep seeing that the top of the screen must be 6.5" lower than the projector when ceiling mounted. Is that right? And does that put my screen too low on my wall?

Don't know where you got the 6.5" lower figure above.

The offset depends on the height of the screen. The offset is about 34% of screen height.

The 92 inch screen height is 45" times .34 = 15.3 inches plus the thickness of the mount. Lets say 3" for a flush mount. That would put your image at 18.3" below the ceiling height. 18.3" + 45" - 90" = 26.7" that the screen would be from the floor.

The 100" screen is 49". So use the above formula to calculate how the 100" screen would fit.

Hope this helps.

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Ordered mine on Friday, delivery sometime this Thursday. I can't wait to get this thing so bad that I feel like a little kid about to pee my pants.
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that doesn't seem to make sense I thought this had the same throw as the HD70 with just different offset?...My hd70 throws a 108" picture not including the black border at 13'....are you measuring from the lens to wall or back of the projector??

lens to wall is around 11'6" for me. I will say I forgot I had adjusted the zoom somewhat, but even at widest zoom, I'm right around 90-92 inches. I think the hd70 has a slightly shorter throw.
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I just got my HD1000u yesterday and it truly is an incredible piece of equipment. A couple things to keep in mind about placement: an 11 foot throw is not going to get anywhere near 100 inches even at lowest zoom. Mine is just under 12 feet and I'm getting maybe a 90 inch image size maximum. Also, if it were an option for me, I would much rather do a table mount instead of my ceiling mount. The image is a bit too low for my tastes mounted right at my 8 ft. ceiling, but it's nothing I can't live with - I just prefer a fairly high screen. You might consider a permanent table mount of some sort if the image placement is good on the table.

Hmm, how far under 12' are you? According to the HD1000u manual:

Diagonal: 100"
Image Height: 49.0"
Image Width: 87.2"
Min Proj. Distance: 143" -> 11.92'
Max Proj. Distance: 174" -> 14.5'
Offset: 16.5"

Note that these dimensions are from the front center of the lens.

Estimated projection distance for a 92" 16:9 screen should be about 129" to 157" or 10.75' to 13.1'.

The projector itself is 245 mm deep or 9.6". Allowing 6" for cables, the room width required for a 100" screen is 143" + 9.6" + 6" = 158.6" = 13.2' and this assumes your screen is right on the wall.

I'm just curious if the manual is accurate. I don't have one of these projectors, but it's on my short list along with the HD70.

Can anyone please PM me with a place to get a good price on the Mits?

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the projection distance calculator at projectorcentral.com is your FRIEND...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Mits...ulator-pro.htm
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the projection distance calculator at projectorcentral.com is your FRIEND...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Mits...ulator-pro.htm

100" screen Mitus Manual: 11.9' to 14.5'
100" screen PC calc: 11.9' to 14.5'

These are contrary to BMaugans' reported numbers. Still not sure who's right...

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the projection distance calculator at projectorcentral.com is your FRIEND...

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Mits...ulator-pro.htm

Yeah, if you use it right... I misread it somehow. I mounted my HD1000 right at the back of the room and I thought I had wiggle room with the zoom- turns out I exactly where I needed to be to get my 119" screen filled, and no spill into the border (which I wanted a little of)- I was right at the back wall with no room to spare! Not if there were actually going to be cables plugged into the machine anyway. It was my fault; I don't know how I got the numbers wrong but I was lucky.

Don't taze me, bro!!
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How does it look on that big of a screen? I have a huge sheet of blackout fabric on its way and was thinking somewhere around a 120" screen in my perfectly dark room.
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It looks incredible!

Don't taze me, bro!!
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I put up a white sheet yesterday over my brown wall. I then taped my Carada samples to the sheet. I still don't know what screen to get. Of the Carada samples the Classic Cinema White was the best. The Grey screen had nice blacks but was too dark overall. The CCW and Brilliant White were very similar but I have no need for the gain of the Brilliant White and the CCW had slightly better blacks.

Overall, I still have not been able to get the blacks as dark as I would like. Setting the "Setup" feature to 7.75% makes a big improvement. I have used Avia and the THX optimizer but I think I still need to do some tweaking. It's just hard to do that on a sheet.
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My sitting distance to screen will be approx. 13'. Will my PQ be slightly sharper if I go down to a 100" diagonal ???
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My sitting distance to screen will be approx. 13'. Will my PQ be slightly sharper if I go down to a 100" diagonal ???


Your PQ will *always* be sharper if you make the screen smaller, but you won't be as immersed by what your watching. Its a tradeoff.
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Received the projector last Thursday. Amazing picture, watched about 5 movies over the weekend. Bulb went out this morning. Hoping this is not an omen after having 2 issue free years with my 4805. Mitsubishi had me fax in a form to send out a bulb replacement so hopefully I will be back up and running by next week.
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I just finished the frame for my DIY screen (have not put the screen material over it yet), so it's just the brown pressed cardboard material that you can buy @ building materials stores. Even so, my son hooked up his GameCube for a couple minutes while I focused... simply incredible!!! ... And this was just an old GameCube system using a composite cable onto a brown background! I cannot wait until it's all finished...
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Add me to the 'WOW' list. It blows me away how impressive this PJ is given its cost. I just ordered a mount for my new HD1000u, bring the total to just under $1k for the PJ and mount. I'll break the $1k mark with making my DIY screen... but it will be close. A package this impressive is one hell of a bargain at <$1100.

I haven't spent much time with it, but out of the box this PJ offers an incredible picture. My ONLY real complaint at this point is black levels could be darker. Please keep in mind I haven't touched any settings yet, I'm shooting on a white wall for the time being, in a white room, so I'm very confident black levels will dramatically improve with some tweaking, a grey screen, and repainting the room a little darker.


If any of you are on the fence... BUY THIS PJ!!!
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My ONLY real complaint at this point is black levels could be darker. Please keep in mind I haven't touched any settings yet, I'm shooting on a white wall for the time being, in a white room, so I'm very confident black levels will dramatically improve with some tweaking, a grey screen, and repainting the room a little darker.

My black levels were lacking too until I adjust one of the settings (can't remember the name) from "auto" to 3.5%. There is also a 7.5% setting which darkens the image more, but crushes some of the darker parts of the image, depending on your source. Play around with this a bit.
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I'll check that out guys when I get a chance. I'm remodeling the BR where this PJ will live, I just quickly set it up to see what she looked like out of the box... as stated, I was impressed. Once I get it tweaked, the room darkened a little, and fire it onto an appropriate screen... I'm SURE I'll be 100% happy with this PJ.

FWIW, I bought the HD1000u to use as a cheap display device for the BR. I have a main theater with nicer equipment and I didn't really care if the PQ wasn't really up to snuff... Much to my surprise, I'm very happily blown away by this cheap little PJ!
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I just got my HD1000u from UPS and hooked it up to my computer (note: I have nothing set up yet -- dvd player, HD cable, etc). It was only on for a couple minutes, but the left side of the projector (as you are looking at the lens) became VERY HOT. I'm not sure if this is how it is supposed to be or what. That same side was very bright inside and the top of the projector was very hot as well. The other side seemed to be a normal temperature. Is this how it's supposed to be?
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First of all I want to thank everyone for all the great information. I just received my HD1000U today and I am waiting on my mount from mountdirect. I am currently projecting to a 92" Do-Able DIY with black border and I am a little confused on picture size and quallitywhen my mount arrives. My room diimensions are as follows:

Screen Wall 7'6" tall 12 feet wide
Screen Top of Screen is at 6'6"
Ceiling Height 13'3" from screen is 8 ft
Back Wall 9 feet tall 12 feet wide

Is that the distance mount should be to project a 92" image??? 13'3"???

I am interested in getting a bigger screen but I am worried about picture quality. I was thinking about 120" but lately I have been leaning toward the AT Screen by SMX. Can I set up a screen the size of my whole front wall(like the SMX or cheaper if possible) and still project a decent picture? Is that even possible in my room setup? I kind of like the idea of having my speakers behind the screen, but I am not married to it if I could save a lot more money and still have a HUGE screen.

I am using a monoprice HDMI cable with PS3 and a comcast motorola HD DVR. HD looks phenomenal, even with ambient light.
Thank you in advance for any help.
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mebedaman, yes this is normal as the projector is exhausting hot air from the L front (as you're facing the projection lens) so it's natural to have this side hotter than the R front where cool air is sucked in. Mits has its lens in the middle and air in/out on either side. L side is also where the bulb resides so it's normal to be brighter and hotter on that side compared to the R side (looking into the vents).

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Thank you for the reply Huey. I was HOPING this was normal, but it was SO hot I had to ask to be sure -- never had a projector before. Thanks again.
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I was also amazed by how hot the air felt. I guess that's one reason the Mits projectors are so quiet, efficient heat removal.
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Anytime you stick a 200 watt bulb in a tiny box the size of the HD1000u, there's going to be some heat issues. What you are seeing is normal.
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First of all I want to thank everyone for all the great information. I just received my HD1000U today and I am waiting on my mount from mountdirect. I am currently projecting to a 92" Do-Able DIY with black border and I am a little confused on picture size and quallitywhen my mount arrives. My room diimensions are as follows:

Screen Wall 7'6" tall 12 feet wide
Screen Top of Screen is at 6'6"
Ceiling Height 13'3" from screen is 8 ft
Back Wall 9 feet tall 12 feet wide

Is that the distance mount should be to project a 92" image??? 13'3"???

I am interested in getting a bigger screen but I am worried about picture quality. I was thinking about 120" but lately I have been leaning toward the AT Screen by SMX. Can I set up a screen the size of my whole front wall(like the SMX or cheaper if possible) and still project a decent picture? Is that even possible in my room setup? I kind of like the idea of having my speakers behind the screen, but I am not married to it if I could save a lot more money and still have a HUGE screen.

I am using a monoprice HDMI cable with PS3 and a comcast motorola HD DVR. HD looks phenomenal, even with ambient light.
Thank you in advance for any help.

Your post is a little confusing, so I'm going to take a stab at answering what I think you're asking based on the limited details...

For a 92" screen, your PJ will need to be mounted anywhere from 11' to 13.3' from the screen to the lens. The top of the image (screen) will be approximately 15.2" below (or above) the centerline of the PJ lens.

You can do a 120" image and the numbers will be 12.4' to 17.4' for the mounting range and have a 19.8" offset.

I'm not going to tell you what size and type of screen to use, but keep in mind, the larger you go the more you'll lose in PQ. You can make up some of the difference with a high gain screen, but there are some trade-offs to using high gain screens. Same is true with perforated screens, they are nice because you can hide speakers, but there are some audio and visual loses which also take place as each passes through the screen (bad for both).

I hope this helped.
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What would be an easy piece of software to draw a picture of a room? A picture is much easier to understand.
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I'm now an anxiously waiting owner - bought thru Projector People - should be here tomorrow or Friday (unfortunately they just ran out of stock so it has to ship from Mitsubishi).

Building a 120" set up -- using Wilsonart Fashion Grey Laminate for the screen and have ordered a mount direct NPL ceiling mount.

Anyone have any experience with Triangle cables (or have other recommendations)? Monoprice is backordered for most of the cables I am after.
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My HD1000U just arrived. I am floored.

My blackout curtains haven't arrived yet and I am waiting to order the screen until I figure out what image size I want to use, so I am in a room with a lot of ambient light, projecting on a peach wall.

Wow. It is bright, with beautiful contrast and nice whites, even under these conditions. I can't wait to get a more optimal setup. I've been playing some life-size Wii Tennis and Zelda and watching bits of movies. I haven't even tried out HD content yet, but it is on its way.

Another bit that impressed me is when I plugged it into my Mac Mini HTPC, it automatically calibrated itself to the right resolution, and even had a "HD1000" Color profile. Everything seems to be amazing, right out of the box. I will be doing the AVIA later on, but I can't imagine doing much aside from minor tweaks.

Thanks, guys. All the time spent on here is paying off in spades. Before I found this forum, I was about to buy an Epson 716 for about the same price. Whew, that was a close one.
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