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The BenQ 10000 and 9000 also have the limited vertical shift of the Sharp 20K: the proj. must be mounted beween the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen.

I was originally quite sceptical of the "tilt" solution for the 36% vertical offset on the InFocus IN82, but if you read it, it makes sense and is quite easy. Although you can use trigonometry to figure out the exact angle, it is just as easy to do on your own:
1) Tilt proj. up until image is at top of screen. Pic. is trapezoidal.
2) Tilt screen forward to make image rectangular.
3) Adjust proj. tilt down so that image is again at top of screen.
4) Adjust screen tilt up to make pic. rectangular.

Although 36% would make you think that the proj and screen tilt would be huge, it is only a matter of a few degrees on both.
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After spent a few hours playing with HD80 last night, all I can say is this is one hell of a projector! Highly recommended to anyone whose looking for a best image quality at a lowest possible price. I got it brand new for less than $2400 total.

My owned both the 720p DLP Sharp 9000 and 720p LCD Infocus 5000, HD80 is miles better than the Sharp at only a fraction of the cost(I paid near $10K a few years back for the Sharp). At 1080p ouput from the VGA port of the XBox360, Planet Earth, King Kong, Fearless and the Matrix trilogy HDDVD all look amazingly sharp and crispy on my no name 96" 1.2 gain screen, colors are accurate and natural(I use the TV mode, the Cinema mode is too dark and over saturated in color), blacks are really black, and boy, this projector is bright, even brighter than the 5000! The fan noise is also very low, the lowest of the three, I can barely hear the fan which is four foot behind. Standard DVD from the Oppo at 1080i is also the best among the three.
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My owned both the 720p DLP Sharp 9000 and 720p LCD Infocus 5000, HD80 is miles better than the Sharp at only a fraction of the cost(I paid near $10K a few years back for the Sharp). At 1080p ouput from the VGA port of the XBox360, Planet Earth, King Kong, Fearless and the Matrix trilogy HDDVD all look amazingly sharp and crispy on my no name 96" 1.2 gain screen, colors are accurate and natural(I use the TV mode, the Cinema mode is too dark and over saturated in color), blacks are really black, and boy, this projector is bright, even brighter than the 5000! The fan noise is also very low, the lowest of the three, I can barely hear the fan which is four foot behind. Standard DVD from the Oppo at 1080i is also the best among the three.

Glad to hear you like it. Since you have owned a couple of 720p projectors how much of a percentage do you think the 1080p resolution makes considering just resolution? I know this topic has been discussed to death but I own the same generation of 720p DLP projector you have owned and my screen size is similar as well.

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The BenQ 10000 and 9000 also have the limited vertical shift of the Sharp 20K: the proj. must be mounted beween the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen.

I was originally quite sceptical of the "tilt" solution for the 36% vertical offset on the InFocus IN82, but if you read it, it makes sense and is quite easy. Although you can use trigonometry to figure out the exact angle, it is just as easy to do on your own:
1) Tilt proj. up until image is at top of screen. Pic. is trapezoidal.
2) Tilt screen forward to make image rectangular.
3) Adjust proj. tilt down so that image is again at top of screen.
4) Adjust screen tilt up to make pic. rectangular.

Although 36% would make you think that the proj and screen tilt would be huge, it is only a matter of a few degrees on both.


Hello Robert. You are correct. I have employed PJ tilt on an IN76 and an HC1000. Currently own a BenQ W9000 and no longer need tilt. Nobody ever noticed the tilt on the image quality. 119" diagonal.

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Hey guitarman

Have you created your usual review and screenshot thread on this projector?

Not yet I need some more dark time for screenshots. Here's a few new good ones, Tosh HD1 Dante's Peak.

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I must have the secret code because they open for me. Man check out that contrast color and brightness.

Oh those shots are with the Iris fully closed at number 16, so it can go way brighter from what you see, also that's econo mode.

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The BenQ 10000 and 9000 also have the limited vertical shift of the Sharp 20K: the proj. must be mounted beween the top of the screen and the bottom of the screen.

I was originally quite sceptical of the "tilt" solution for the 36% vertical offset on the InFocus IN82, but if you read it, it makes sense and is quite easy. Although you can use trigonometry to figure out the exact angle, it is just as easy to do on your own:
1) Tilt proj. up until image is at top of screen. Pic. is trapezoidal.
2) Tilt screen forward to make image rectangular.
3) Adjust proj. tilt down so that image is again at top of screen.
4) Adjust screen tilt up to make pic. rectangular.

Although 36% would make you think that the proj and screen tilt would be huge, it is only a matter of a few degrees on both.

seriously?? this would work in a room with 8ft ceiling with a screen up to 2" from the ceiling with a ceiling mount and look correct?? (I've yet to own a proj. hence my noobiness...still!)


Nevermind..the pics work..weird thing is I have to turn OFF Norton to see them!

Any ambient light pics??

very nice ....even Clarence would be proud of the quality!

maybe my local wholeseller,Petra, will get this one soon!
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Not yet I need some more dark time for screenshots. Here's a few new good ones, Tosh HD1 Dante's Peak.

http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante1.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante2.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante3.jpg

Thanks. I'll be looking out for your review. I was focused on the Epson 1080p, but I love the Aspect ratio options you get on the Optoma projectors. Would you happen to have HULK on HD-DVD? I would love to see some pics of this on the HD80. Thanks.

UPDATE: Does it do the Vertical stretch need for a 2.35:1 screen set up?
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Yes it does the aspect for a 2.35 setup.

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seriously?? this would work in a room with 8ft ceiling with a screen up to 2" from the ceiling with a ceiling mount and look correct?? (I've yet to own a proj. hence my noobiness...still!)


Nevermind..the pics work..weird thing is I have to turn OFF Norton to see them!

Any ambient light pics??

very nice ....even Clarence would be proud of the quality!

maybe my local wholeseller,Petra, will get this one soon!

Thanks buddy glad you enjoyed the pictures. 8' ceiling with a cheif flush mount would put the top of the screen down a couple of feet. Seems to me my screen is about centered from ceiling to floor.

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Not yet I need some more dark time for screenshots. Here's a few new good ones, Tosh HD1 Dante's Peak.

http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante1.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante2.jpg
http://www.cigarbest.com/sales/hd80dante3.jpg


Tom,

Those screenshots look great!

Nice and punchy!


Looking forward to your full review.

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If looking at purchasing this projector, how concerned does one have to be with Optoma reliability? I read many, many posts about what a disaster the HD81 was in this regard. Was that an anomaly?

I need to be assured that I am buying a well made, relaible product that will also be well backed if I need service. I had previously been considering the Epson 1080P, and a significant reason for that was Epsons record of outstanding outstanding service and solid reliability. Can I feel comfortable in that regard if I were to purchase the HD80?

Thanks for any expertise, or input you can offer in this area.



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Many Optoma projectors run great, I have one of their first HT Projectors that works perfect to this day with thousands of hours. The HD81 has or had some goofy link glicth with I suspect relates to the seperate scaler box and cable connections. This HD80 is self contained linking is tight. I've run my HD80 4 and 5 hours at a time and never saw a problem. Different projector / different results.
Things look ok with this budget model.

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Tom,

Those screenshots look great!

Nice and punchy!


Looking forward to your full review.

I know and that's toned down. I got the Iris at max closed and econo mode and it still glows. I doubt we've seen a projector with this much light power. Me I've never registered a PJ at 49ft candles in it's brightest modes, that lumen level is insane.

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If looking at purchasing this projector, how concerned does one have to be with Optoma reliability?
John

I had an early HD72 that had some issues...Optoma "advance" replaced it immediatly. Six months later the replacement blew a lamp, Optoma replaced it even out of warrantee.

Many complex pieces of gear nowadays have issues, especially after being handled by UPS. ( I have a son-in-law who is a driver for UPS, his idea of putting something down gently consists of dropping it off his sholder from 5.5 feet in the air) The integrity of the manufacturer and sevice support is key. I won't hesitate to purchase another Optoma product after experiencing their support.

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Letterbox is on for all signals so yes it will stretch up images so you can use a 2.35 setup.


Would the anamorphic lens that NEC made to be used with their HT-1100 work on this projector? Is an anamorphic lens really needed?
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I love my Mitsi HD1000 but in a couple of years will probably upgrade to a 1080p proj. and this sounds like it may be the one. I bet in two years it will be under two grand and by then we will know if there are any reliability issues with it.

When I bought my HD1000 it was between it and an Optoma 720p one. the 1500 lumens was the tipping point toward the Mitsi but with the H80 being brighter than previous models that concern is gone.
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How much does the optional lens cost?
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Glad to hear you like it. Since you have owned a couple of 720p projectors how much of a percentage do you think the 1080p resolution makes considering just resolution? I know this topic has been discussed to death but I own the same generation of 720p DLP projector you have owned and my screen size is similar as well.

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I would say there is a vast improvement comparing my 9000 to the HD80 in term of the resolution alone, not to mention the improvement in contrast/black level and the color wheel. Physically, we are talking about 921,600 mirrors Vs 2,073,600 mirrors, more than double in pixel counts! Watching a 1080p HD movie downconverted to 720p, blurring is unavoidable. Best example to tell for yourself if you have a LCD monitor, is to view a photo in the monitor's native resolution(usually 1280x1024 for a 19" standard monitor) then change the screen resolution to say 1024x768 and see the difference. Of course if your viewing position is far away from the screen, the difference may not seem that big.

Once I've seen the HD80, I can never go back to the 720p anymore when viewing HD material.
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Would the anamorphic lens that NEC made to be used with their HT-1100 work on this projector? Is an anamorphic lens really needed?

Only if you want to get rid of the black bars on 2.35 movies. Using such a lens lets you get a 'constant height' image, where the full screen is filled on 2.35 content, and you get pillar boxes when viewing 16:9 or 4:3 content.
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Hello Guitarman and others that own or seen the new Optoma HD80..

During the darkest scenes or just a fade out to another scene or a completely black scene, do you see lightness at the corners of your screen just as the JVC guys see on the JVC RS1 projectors?? I know the JVC's are LCoS and the HD80 is a DLP.

How about light spills from the HD80 ???

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I just saw this projector online over at projector central as I am looking to buy my first PJ...I picked this one because of the price I found but was shocked to find how feature laiden and the connectivity abilities! But after seeing those screen shots I am convinced that within the next few months i will be purchasing this BARGAIN top shelf projector!!! Thanks for those screen shots guitarman!!!
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Hello Guitarman and others that own or seen the new Optoma HD80..

During the darkest scenes or just a fade out to another scene or a completely black scene, do you see lightness at the corners of your screen just as the JVC guys see on the JVC RS1 projectors?? I know the JVC's are LCoS and the HD80 is a DLP.

How about light spills from the HD80 ???

Thanks, Darryl

I did not notice any of the above in my 2 days of viewing.
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I just saw this projector online over at projector central as I am looking to buy my first PJ...I picked this one because of the price I found but was shocked to find how feature laiden and the connectivity abilities! But after seeing those screen shots I am convinced that within the next few months i will be purchasing this BARGAIN top shelf projector!!! Thanks for those screen shots guitarman!!!

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