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post #1 of 659 Old 07-18-2007, 07:18 PM - Thread Starter
 
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Incredible deal on this projector!...Had to buy one....


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...523&CatId=1755
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Congrats. That's a great deal. Hope it works well for you as others have been less lucky.

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Why would anyone buy this when the Mits. HD1000 is the same price @ projectorpeople?
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Because the Samsung when properly calibrated is in a different league than the Mits...My local calibrator has one and loves it.
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DIDO......to that cnickersonjr

I own the HD 1000 and I have to say it is a very good projector for the money. However ,if you have a issue with a low ceiling...one should look else where. I just bought a Sharp DT-500. I will compare the two real soon. The HD1000 will be hard to beat.

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Because the Samsung when properly calibrated is in a different league than the Mits...My local calibrator has one and loves it.

OK. With these specs, the Samsung wouldn't work for me. Not bright enough & no HDMI. Sorry, just curious as to why this was considered a goor deal.

Resolution: 720p Native (1280 x 720)
Brightness: 700 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio: 2800 : 1
Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Display Technology: DLP
Data Signals: VGA to SXGA
Video Signals: HDTV (480p, 576p, 720p, 1080i)


Inputs: DVI-D
S-Video
RS-232C
Composite: RCA jack
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The specs are pretty accurate and not inflated like the HD1000. The brightness is close to an HD1000 maybe 100 lumens less real world unless you are using the HD1000 in bright mode. This PJ is in a differen league than the HD1001 for picture and build quality. The problem with this PJ that made it unpopular is they had some serious quality control problems and dealing with Samsung's customer service is not always pleasant. But, if you get a good one this is a tough PJ to beat.

The best deal I have seen recently was Sharp 12KII and this beats that! The Sharp will do better black levels but this is brighter and really so close to calibrated out of the box that makes it a no brainer. Its lens offset also allows placement above a screen which some people will prefer.

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Thanks TheHDMan for the tip. I just ordered one. Should do nicely to hold me over until 1080 is priced for the unwashed monkey masses.

I called Samsung and confirmed a two year (26 months actually) warranty right before ordering - the seller's page says three years which is wrong and Samsung's web site was ambiguous about the warranty length. Still, two years is enough time to get a lot out of the PJ and find out if you have a clunker or keeper.

I darn near passed on the deal after reading all the problems. Looks like we're taking a roll of the dice. Then I went back over the glowing reviews and "they pulled me back in."

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Well this totally violates the forum rules, but it is an exceptional deal.
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The specs are pretty accurate and not inflated like the HD1000. The brightness is close to an HD1000 maybe 100 lumens less real world unless you are using the HD1000 in bright mode. This PJ is in a differen league than the HD1001 for picture and build quality. The problem with this PJ that made it unpopular is they had some serious quality control problems and dealing with Samsung's customer service is not always pleasant. But, if you get a good one this is a tough PJ to beat.

The best deal I have seen recently was Sharp 12KII and this beats that! The Sharp will do better black levels but this is brighter and really so close to calibrated out of the box that makes it a no brainer. Its lens offset also allows placement above a screen which some people will prefer.

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I find it hard to believe that a proj. listed as 700 lumens is only 100 lumens dimmer than one listed at 1500 lumens. There may be some variance in the accuracy of the figures but I serioiusly doubt that either the Mitsi puts out half the lumens stated or that this projector puts out double the lumens the mfg. claims.
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I find it hard to believe that a proj. listed as 700 lumens is only 100 lumens dimmer than one listed at 1500 lumens. There may be some variance in the accuracy of the figures but I serioiusly doubt that either the Mitsi puts out half the lumens stated or that this projector puts out double the lumens the mfg. claims.

When perfectly calibrated on low lamp the Samsung is 470 lumens .

http://www.projectorcentral.com/samsung_sph710.htm

When perfectly calibrated on low mode the Mits is 490 lumens.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/mitsubishi_hd1000u.htm

Now the mits is capable of projecting a decent image with well over 1000 lumens, so that flexibility is something the Samsung doesnt have.
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This one slipped under the radar. never heard of it before this thread. I'll have to dig up more info.
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This is a fantastic deal ( 78% off most current MSRP, 91% off original MSRP ) on a great projector, if you get a good one. Very enthusiastic review by Art at projectorreviews.com:

Samsung SP-H710AE review

He states that the detail in shadow areas is outstanding, that it's the best calibrated projector out-of-the-box that he's seen shy of the $18k mark, and it does a beautiful job with movies provided you keep the screen size below 110" (preferably at or below 100"), have a dark room and preferably dark walls. He doesn't recommend this projector for lots of sports and HDTV viewing, though, as it isn't bright enough to handle much ambient light. I'd snap one up right now but for the fact that I need something brighter for a lower level rec/HT room with lots of windows.

One other caveat: this Samsung is around 19lbs making it twice the weight of the typical HT projector - I don't know if this added weight will make a difference as far as ceiling mount selection is concerned.

Thanks for the heads-up on this deal (forum rules be damned).
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Since we're discussing prices, Dell has new HD70 720p DLP for $699 AR with free shipping.

I'd be nervous about this Samsung's longevity and generally poor tech. support due to numerous problem posts here.

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Danger! This projector had very serious quality control issues. They would all fail after a while, or at least it seemed that way. It is impossible to know if they have been corrected.

Great picture, especially for this price, but that does you no good if it doesn't work.

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any idea about the build date on these??
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Just noticed this thread that is a great price and with a 3yr warranty I think its worth a try anyone know if it accepts 1080p 24fps ?

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I don't believe it comes w/ a 3 year warranty but rather 2 years. I called Samsung to confirm and they said 2 years + 2 months.

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Seems the warranty includes a two day replacement for any problem. This projector also has veritcal lens shift

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=799537
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I just received one today and the picture is truly oustanding!! I have a Panny ae-900 and the samsung blows it away in color, sharpness and even black levels. I was so impressed I ordered a second one just in case one breaks (based on QC issues) and I have to send it away for repairs. Dont be put off by the low 700 lumen spec. It was considerably brighter (granted the bulb is new and my panny has 350 hrs) than my panasonic which is rated at 1100 lumens. There was also a shoout of eight 720p projectors at soundandvisionmag.com and samsung won beating out the infocus in76, mitc, optoma etc. I was also impressed at how well my regular dvd's looked. The color, sharpness and black level was much better than on my panny. I never did like the panny soft picture especially with videogames but no such problem with the samsung. Highly recommended at this price. The only negative is this thing is Huge. It looks like a tank.
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Hopefully, it's runs like a tank on the inside. I thinking of taking a chance on this projector.
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Just think... a couple of years ago this projector had an MSRP of $12K!!
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That's what concerns me. The price drop sounds too good to be true.
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This product has a limited warranty of:
36 months for parts and 36 months for labor.


Quoted from TigerDirect.

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Here is a great, unbiased, review from our own Jason Turk

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This is very tempting, and I might even have considered it myself. However, while very highly rated, and capable of an exceptional picture, most of them eventually had complete failure at start up, and were returned many times by forum owners before finally giving up on getting a working projector. And these were almost universally owners that loved the picture quality.

I'm not aware that Samsung ever actually fixed the problem. I know AVS discontinued selling them because of the failure rate. Do some careful research here before jumping on this one.


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Very tempting indeed. Does anyone know if they finally resolved their quality control problems?
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Just realized that with the throw of this projector I can only get a 98" diagonal picture with it on my 106" diagonal screen. Perhaps it is worth sacrificing some screen size, but is it a problem to project a smaller image on a larger screen? I always liked having a black border around the image, but this would not be the case projecting a 98" image on a 106" screen. Anyone else do this?
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Unfortunately, I can't find much information on the forum about this projector. I'll check the archives later.
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There are a couple of threads in the >$3,000 projector forum. I read them and was also a little concerned about the failure rate but then again a lot of people have been complaining about problems (although not as serious) with the Panasonic PT ax100 yet people seem to still be buying that projector. That is part of the reason I ordered two so that if one goes down I'll have the other while its being repaired. I figure I should get two years of use (based on the warranty) and even at <$2000 it is still a good price. I am also going to post a thread to see how many actually have had the projector without problems as it is human nature to hear from people when they have a problem but not when things are running well..
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