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can't find it,You have a link thanks

i admit their site nagivation is not quite friendly.

use this to get to thier frame layout then click on top left link "startsite" will get u to the sanyo

http://cine4home.de/Specials/TW2000Japan/Frame.htm
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is there a way to get the ENglish translation?
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It is the Epson TW2000 not Sanyo PLV Z2000
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DUDE, read what i said
use this to get to thier frame layout then click on top left link "startsite" will get u to the sanyo
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It is the Epson TW2000 not Sanyo PLV Z2000

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It is the Epson TW2000 not Sanyo PLV Z2000


http://babelfish.altavista.com/

or post the whole link on google search then select translate. note:google translation has words limitation
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Don't have to be mean, just click this URL to get a german to english translation of the preview:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcine4home.de%2Ftests%2Fprojektoren% 2FSanyoZ2000Preview%2FZ2000Preview.htm&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

On a side note, why it come with baby booger remover?

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Don't have to be mean, just click this URL to get a german to english translation of the preview:
http://www.google.com/translate?u=ht...&hl=en&ie=UTF8

On a side note, why it come with baby booger remover?

not my fault, i tried to help fellow user how to navigate the frame layout. Then somebody came along, did't read the instruction but post a negative comment instead. I hope asking them to read the comment again isn't rude by all meant.

Look like z2k has direct small access to blow the dust with them blower.
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Look like z2k has direct small access to blow the dust with them blower.

Excellent. I don't know why LCD's don't have sealed light paths like DLP's do. Dust WILL eventually make it on to the chips but it's nice that they included a way to clean it out...
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Excellent. I don't know why LCD's don't have sealed light paths like DLP's do. Dust WILL eventually make it on to the chips but it's nice that they included a way to clean it out...

I have 3 LCD beamer before and have not experienced a dusk problem yet. "knock on wood" but i always pay close attention to minimize air movement and cover the filter opening when cleanning.

The direct holes will come useful one day, i guess the point of getting a sanyo is the 3 years waranty, open up the case could jeopodize the whole deal.
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On a side note, why it come with baby booger remover?

If you had taken a glance at the sentences immediately below the photo you went to the trouble of copying -- you wouldn't need to ask! LCD Panel Dust Removal!

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It is the small bellows simply in the holes of the projector and so can the front and back of each of the three panels clean. This cleaning system is a unique feature of the Sanyo PLV-Z2000. For all other manufacturers have to the projector in the case of infestation in the dust (after the guarantee fee) service.

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Excellent. I don't know why LCD's don't have sealed light paths like DLP's do. Dust WILL eventually make it on to the chips but it's nice that they included a way to clean it out...

Because LCD has much higher heat and so sealed path doesn't work (lots of ventilation needed!)

Looking forward to more information next month. Curious about the Iris comments -- does some unusual not to include a manually adjustable Iris. Good news on the 6500K factory setup, but guess we really need to see what the production models are like!
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That is a tough read even with the translation! haha...

I got the overall point that it was a great bang for the buck projector, but it was hard to tell if he thought it was a good performing one, aside from the price effect.
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they need to have a bilingual site, considering the majority of their visitors are probably gringos...and by bilingual i mean in German and Aramaic
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No mention of lumen yet and rather weak CR. So the preliminary review sounds like a mature product with good and quiet air circulation but nothing stand out.
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What is the LBX mode on the Z2000, I hear it will make a 2.35 moive and make it fit a 1.78 screen with no black bars, is this true.
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What is the LBX mode on the Z2000, I hear it will make a 2.35 moive and make it fit a 1.78 screen with no black bars, is this true.

Hopefully this is true, but only if it vertically stretches the image vs zooming it.
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it probably crops the image then
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they need to have a bilingual site, considering the majority of their visitors are probably gringos...and by bilingual i mean in German and Aramaic

It was a preview = not up on the english site. h t t p:// c i n e 4 h o m e . c o m
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too bad the english site is has no regular updates
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Yeah, there is no way to make a Scope movie fit a 1.78:1 screen without cropping.

But usually a LBX mode is for Non-Anamorphic DVD's, at least it is on my PJ....so it eliminates the black bars on 1.78:1 non-anamorphic discs and displays at a lower rez, but fills the screen.

Either that or its the vertical compression trick that people use with anamorphic lenses.

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Review up: http://www.hdtvexpert.com/pages_b/SanyoPLV-Z2000.html

I wonder how the 'Caption In' aspect ratio in will work. Hopefully it will nearly fill the screen with an anamorphic movie but leave enough room at the bottom for subtitles without cropping them! That would be great.

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The scaling performance is disappointing for my application. Not too excited about the black level either ('Batman Begins' example), though probably still a respectable improvement over what I have now.
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Just read the review.Noy to bad,Was hoping blacks would be better and the scaling looks to be not so hot,But if you have a good hddvd player that would not matter.I think the new panny with the d7 panels will beat this fp for the money.Also the mit hc6000 looks to be better,
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Just read the review.Noy to bad,Was hoping blacks would be better and the scaling looks to be not so hot,But if you have a good hddvd player that would not matter.I think the new panny with the d7 panels will beat this fp for the money.Also the mit hc6000 looks to be better,

Kind of what i was thinking....its a bit disappointing to be honest.
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first small test:
http://www.heimkinomacher.de/news_11...Kurztest-.html

nice images. in German...hope your German is not rusty. achtung!

some paraphrasing: larger than predecessor. points out a cold-device (rather than hot-device) plug. more quiet than mitsu 5000, and apparently their new record for quietness. sanyo added filter to take care of dust...laments that others don't have it. bigger remote control, with direct choice buttons...which they also find terrific. iris can be fast or firm...but can be heard to operate in fast mode. does not take a c4h filter, because their glass filter does not fit. (apparently, they use this for tuning.) contrast is 65% better when color-corrected than plv-z5. they liked the DVD 576i mode and the 1080p mode (scaler is bypassed over hdmi if sent w/o overscan), but were not impressed by the 1080i mode (not sharp enough). They are pointing out that this is a preship model, and they hope this will improve. they plan to do a real test when the final device comes out.

and I hope this helped.

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"not sharp enough"---REALLY? The Z4 was and is the sharpest of any of the front projectors, [compared to Sony, Epson and Panasonic] and you are saying the 1080P D7 panel version isn't? Probably too much OKTOBERFEST wherever you are. My Z4 is an all time winner with 3000 hours on the original lamp. I'll be first in line when more competent reviews come out.
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No looking too good...

If panny ae2000u price <= $3k without debate, it's pretty much sold at this point.
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Projector Central will be comparing six projectors (Panasonic AE2000, the Sanyo Z2000, the Sony VW60, the InFocus IN82, the JVC RS1, and the Optoma HD80):

http://www.projectorcentral.com/proj...news092407.htm

Try this review
http://www.my411family.com/electroni...read.php?id=78
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Try this review
http://www.my411family.com/electroni...read.php?id=78

Sorry...
This so called review is a knock-off. Rewritten from a press release, rumors from varies forum, word of mouth...etc. I doubt they even have a manufacturer box to begin it.
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Sorry...
This so called review is a knock-off. Rewritten from a press release, rumors from varies forum, word of mouth...etc. I doubt they even have a manufacturer box to begin it.

This reviewer, [The 411 team specialist on 14 September], say they evaluated the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 at CEDIA. May not be the best way to do a complete review but it is OK, in my opinion, to do a preliminary. The review does not sound like any of the press releases that I have seen, or a fabrication to me. We will all be glad to see a solid review, but his one should encourage further looking for actual performance info.
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It should be called a preview and not a review.
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