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post #61 of 82 Old 10-04-2010, 09:05 PM
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People, does anyone knows or have tried DVDFab Passkey on wine? I have it installed on a win7 partition for testing and it looks good. I've rent a Bluray that was AACS17 and BD+ and it worked fine. I need it or AnyDVD HD running on Linux to be able to use my Sony Optiarc BC-5500S drive on Linux. Once my BD drive is OEM it can't decrypt the discs but if I have DVDFab Passkey or AnyDVD HD running in background and decrypting the disc I can play them fine on Win7.

I could install DVDFab Passkey on wine and after some struggle (to set the dvd drive) it can launch but it doesn't decrypt when there is a disc inserted. But it's the beginning... At least it could be installed on wine and I could get it running, playing around with settings etc, without errors...

People, I'm wondering if someone else had tried it and how far did you go?
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Has anyone here tried lxBDPlayer yet?
http://lxbdplayer.sourceforge.net/
Apparently it allows to play back BD disks directly using mplayer, without making a decrypted backup. It uses makemkv libs for playing back commercial BDs.
There are some more details here (in German):
http://linuxundich.de/de/ubuntu/blu-...-linux-ubuntu/

Personally I haven't tried it yet, since I prefer to transcode my BDs to 720p MKV backups (to save hard disk space on my media server).

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Has anyone here tried lxBDPlayer yet?
http://lxbdplayer.sourceforge.net/
Apparently it allows to play back BD disks directly using mplayer, without making a decrypted backup. It uses makemkv libs for playing back commercial BDs.
There are some more details here (in German):
http://linuxundich.de/de/ubuntu/blu-...-linux-ubuntu/

Personally I haven't tried it yet, since I prefer to transcode my BDs to 720p MKV backups (to save hard disk space on my media server).

From the English site-
http://lxbdplayer.sourceforge.net/english.html
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Warning ! lxBDPlayer can't read protected Bluray Disc
× You can add plugin in lxBDPlayer
× lxBDPlayer don't send any plugin to unprotect BlurayDisc

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From the English site-
http://lxbdplayer.sourceforge.net/english.html

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Warning ! lxBDPlayer can't read protected Bluray Disc
× You can add plugin in lxBDPlayer
× lxBDPlayer don't send any plugin to unprotect BlurayDisc

It uses the makemkv libs to play protected disks (according to the German article I linked to above), I mentioned that. Or what else are you refering to?

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I have no experience with this drive.. but cheapest I've ever seen: http://dealnews.com/ASUS-4-x-Blu-ray...ng/433062.html

Its read-only.. not a burner.. but for makemkv, that's all you need.
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Well I wish Free Software Foundation or somebody like that would be present when standards like Blu Ray are defined, so they can help make sure there is a way for "free software" to play it back.

I mean, isn't that part of the point of having the Free Software Foundation??? Where were they???

I also wish somebody like Corel would come out with either a WinDVD for Linux/BSD, or a commercial library which you could install and then use mplayer or the player of your choice to play the BD. Seems like FSF could have a role in making that happen, also.

But I guess my fellow Linux/FreeBSD fans wouldn't buy such a product. :-( If you guys refuse to pay for things, they never get made. :-(

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But I guess my fellow Linux/FreeBSD fans wouldn't buy such a product. :-( If you guys refuse to pay for things, they never get made. :-(

--Brian

That's really not the issue (at least not at this moment in time).

The current issue is that DRM and patents holders are unwilling to grant licenses to anyone other than big corporations. There have been similar instances where linux kernel developers have volunteered to sign non-disclosure agreements and pay licensing fees in order to develop drivers but have been told to go pound sand by the patent holder.

In fact, the DRM and patent issues surrounding BD are so bad that even Apple refuses to deal with them.
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re: DRM-

Latest Sony attempt is Cinavia watermarking-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1265114&page=5

If watermarking takes hold, it's the end of the A/V hobby as we know it.

No, it doesn't matter if our media PC's simply ignore the watermark.

Also, "Ultraviolet" DRM, though it appears related to streaming and should be another failed phone home scheme-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1266525
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re; DRM-

Latest Sony attempt is Cinavia watermarking-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1265114&page=5

If watermarking takes hold, it's the end of the A/V hobby as we know it.

No, it doesn't matter if out media PC's simply ignore the watermark.

Also, "Ultraviolet" DRM, though it appears related to streaming and should be another failed phone home scheme-

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1266525

Technically Cinavia shouldn't be an issue for Linux HTPC users.

The main issue I have with it, is that it degrades the audio signal (regardless if it's noticeable or not, I'm against the principle of buying a DVD/BD with a purposefully degraded audio signal), so I will make a point in explicitly NOT buying any DVDs/BDs with Cinavia DRM, but rather download them if I want to see those movies (I don't normally download movies even though its' 100% legal here were I live, only uploading is illegal).
Sony can go f**k themselves...

Wikipedia has a list of all Cinavia releases (that I will avoid to buy):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinavia

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HOW-TO playback Blu-ray Disc in XBMC for Linux with MakeMKV (Plugin Addon)

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=67420

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* A working install of MakeMKV. If you're installing under Linux, make sure you install both the source and the binary package, otherwise the commandline tool won't be there.
* A BluRay source, either a disc or iso's or something.. (What's the point otherwise...)

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Cinavia DRM: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Blu-ray's Self-Destruction

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5693/c...fdestruction/3

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From our perspective, we feel that the Blu-ray industry (studios as well as the licensing authorities) is overpricing their technology in today's connected world. Most of the Blu-ray features such as BD-Live and interactive BD-J content are just too much effort spent for very little return (because the consumer has no real interest in using them). The addition of new licensing requirements such as Cinavia are preventing the natural downward price progression of Blu-ray related technology. Instead of spending time, money and effort on new DRM measures that get circumvented within a few days of release, the industry would do well to lower the launch price of Blu-rays. There is really no justification for the current media pricing.

We also covered some wonderful tools that enable the consumers to enjoy their Blu-rays in the best possible manner. It is really disappointing that backing up discs after removing the content protection mechanism is illegal in many parts of the world.

In light of what we have covered in this piece, we do hope the mainstream consumers wake up and evaluate whether the Blu-ray industry is really worthy of their support.

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Then there's the fact that the user experience with some Blu-ray players has been almost hilariously hostile. DVD players, with comparatively rare and usually irrelevant exceptions, don't have firmware updates. Blu-ray, not always something that can be relied on to avoid that.

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Ultimately Blue ray has a major design flaw. it forces people to update hardware that shouldn't need to be updated ever. google(or Bing) Blue Ray update problems. you get 80 million results.

James cameron's Avatar is the best example of it. something like 1/3 of the blue ray players had to receive a firmware update to play it.some took only 5-6 days to come out others took months.

when you finally got your update, you had o then hook your player up to the internet. for most people that means disassembling the tv stand moving the player to your computer desk and hooking it up there, along with a cheap tv so you can see what you are doing. Or making a really long patch cable and stringing through the house to hook up the player long enough to get the update.

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Plus, I have reservations about the Internet-connectivity on these discs. I buy a disc because I want the content forever. Is that content really forever if I have to download it from Sony each time I want to watch it? Can they use the connectivity to violate my privacy?

Plus, and I'm sure this has been fixed on the new high end players, but the original bluray players took 60-90 seconds to play a disc. My dvd player takes less than 10. Why would anyone want to sit around and wait for a player to boot?

Furthermore, the ever-changing DRM environment on Bluray discs is in perpetual upheaval. Many older players won't play newer discs. Some older players will, but only with firmware updates. But again, this is more hassle than I'm willing to deal with.

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And Blu-Ray really only benefits new movies. Catalog movies often suffer worse on Blu-Ray due to poor mastering. (Compare the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray releases of Apollo 13 - yikes. The Blu-Ray has blown highlights, extensive DNR and other crap that despite a 66% increase in available storage capacity, it has less details than the HD-DVD version - at times it's so bad signs in the background are blurry).

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...-blue-blu-ray/
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This blog post might be of interest:

How To Get Encrypted Blu-Rays Working In VLC
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-get-encrypted-blu-rays-working.html

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I have stumbled across away to get easy bluray playback. The new mac-go player running in wine default no extra configure 5.9-5.12 runs flawless with anything I have tried playing, It's $40.00
Using Ubuntu 12.04 lts, Have tried Debian testing also sid an Fedora 17 but they are missing something i just cant figure out. Get audio on both but no video doing the same setup with wine an codecs but no go with the later two. Maybe someone else can figure it out but works flawless in Ubuntu!
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I watch blue-rays with makemkv. You can run makemkv as a streaming server and attach vlc or mplayer to that stream and voiila, blue-ray in all it's glory.

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I'm considering switching my HTPC from Windows to Ubuntu. Just wondering how Linux users are running bluray on their HTPC's these days. Is Makemkv still the way to go?
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I was not able to get MakeMKV to work under Wine the last time I tried. I'm sure a VM running Windows would work but I haven't tried that.

I use DVDFab with Wine for decoding and HandBrake for compression. Now and then I get a disc that DVDFab can't deal with and I fall back to on old XP laptop with AnyDVD.

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I was not able to get MakeMKV to work under Wine the last time I tried. I'm sure a VM running Windows would work but I haven't tried that.

I use DVDFab with Wine for decoding and HandBrake for compression. Now and then I get a disc that DVDFab can't deal with and I fall back to on old XP laptop with AnyDVD.

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Why not use the native linux Makemkv? It's free while in Beta and works great. Look for it in the makemkv forums.
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I'm considering switching my HTPC from Windows to Ubuntu. Just wondering how Linux users are running bluray on their HTPC's these days. Is Makemkv still the way to go?

There has been no windows based HTPC anymore in my household for almost a year...
I also built a ZFS NAS with CentOS...
All media (BR, DVD) is ripped into MKV...

The only thing we can't do anymore is watching BR in 3D, but I can tell you no one is missing it...

I have a collection of over 40 3D titles, and I think we must have seen maybe 5 or 6 from start to finish in 3D...
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Why not use the native linux Makemkv? It's free while in Beta and works great. Look for it in the makemkv forums.

Thanks for that! I had tried it a long while ago and had trouble with the install, but I have a more current Linux system now and it installs and runs smoothly.

Installation instructions: http://www.makemkv.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=224

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