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Multi-boot bootable external rescue HDD+PAFs+movies and music.How many diff partitions?NTFS?FAT32?

Just got a 500GB 2.5'' HDD (Seagate SATA 2.0) but using in a USB 2.0/eSATA/FireWire 400 HDD dock (connecting to PCs by USB 2.0 right now) so essentially an external HDD (also on box: ''certified'' logos/sys reqs: LINUX, Windows 7, Vista, XP, Mac OS X with Intel CPUs).

Other info: I'm new to the Linux world...starting since 1/21/2011 F (a friend put together a Mythbuntu box from my repurposed/mobo recapped HP m400y desktop who restore disks found to be no good and HP handicapped their mobos/lock you in to using HP as your replacement vendor with some ''tattooing'' process--imagine, paid good money for NO GOOD restore disks and locked-in system. Avoid HP, I'd say!).

Onto matter at hand/''my project'': I want to create a multi-boot bootable external rescue disk. Can said rescue disk be in the form of actually being a rescue HDD (because I heard of bootable Linux OS but those discussions have been ''Live'' CD/DVD maybe even USB flash stick...but never rescue HDD)? So a rescue HDD possible? Rescue/troubleshooting whether from crashed/dead PC and/or malwares. What's a good Linux distro to use (mobo permitting)? Is there a somewhat full-featured but bootable MCE type Linux distro (cuz I like MCEs)? I know of LinuxMCE, Mythbuntu, GeeXboX+Enna, Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio...the latter two with MythTV...Which of these have/not have 10-foot GUI? Anyone been able to get any one of these more full-featured Linux using it as bootable rescue HDD? Or recommended to stick with a lighter weight one? Which one?
[ • 10-ft GUI, HOME AUTOMATION http://linuxmce.org/index.php/support = Kubuntu OS-based+KDE Desktop
• Live CD, 10-ft GUI http://mythbuntu.org/support ( http://distrowatch.com/mythbuntu )
• 10-ft GUI, limited TiVo functionality BUT will be implemented fully in later versions http://elementmypc.com/main/support ( http://distrowatch.com/element )
• Live CD, 10-ft GUI, per http://distrowatch.com/geexbox NO DESKTOP instead based on MPlayer [so my interpretation Embedded Settop Box-ISH so PC caN'T be used as a NORMAL PC per se so you can't install other, NON-multimedia apps, OO.o for example under GeeXboX...I guess unless said PC multi-boot into another ''more useful'' OS WITH a DESKTOP], NOT .deb, NOT UBMCE = Ubuntu.com-BASED MCE, Enna has PLANNED future TiVo functionality http://geexbox.org/forum (or http://geexbox.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page ) ( http://distrowatch.com/geexbox ) + http://enna.geexbox.org/features
• Live medium, 10-ft GUI, NOT .deb, NOT UBMCE = Ubuntu.com-BASED MCE LinHES (formerly KnoppMyth) http://mysettopbox.tv/support [.html OPTIONAL] ( http://LinHES.org (OLD domain http://MySetTopBox.tv REdirects to NEW http://LinHES.org )
from DistroWatch.com: LinHES is an attempt to make the installation of GNU/Linux and MythTV as trivial as possible. It includes everything needed to get your set-top box up and running in as little time as possible. LinHES is based on Arch Linux and is targeted at anyone looking for a set-top box solution.

• Live DVD and CD, which desktop is better: GNOME or KDE? http://forums.LinuxMint.com (or http://community.LinuxMint.com ) ( http://distrowatch.com/mint )
http://ubuntustudio.org/support (or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio ) ( http://distrowatch.com/ubuntustudio )
http://mythtv.org/support ]

I'm also thinking putting on said external HDD a partition for 1 or more combo of bootable Windows variant (32-bit XP MCE 2004/2005, Vista, and/or 32-bit or 64-bit Windows 7), so bootable external HDD Windows possible ? If yes, does it matter whether Linux or Windows partition is created first before the other? Please tell me the order.

Also heard something called /swap partition for Linux (are there other partitions?)...what other ''recommended'' partitions do I need, whether for Linux or Windows? In other words, I want best/optimum/recommended partitioning. As you can gather my intention is to shuffle this HDD back and forth between Linux and Windows PCs. So the numbers of partitions you gonna be recommending, what file system should the different ones be in: FAT32 and/or NTFS? (I found Seagate's own DiscWizard will let me format FAT32 for devices > 32 GB.)

If any of these partitions gonna happen to be FAT32 and a given file is > 4 GB and I want to copy it to a FAT32 partition/drive, what happens then? Must use a file splitter/joiner?! I think the app name is HJSplit, right?

I also want a partion to install so I can use these so-called ''PAFs'' portable apps @ http://PortableApps.com (gonna be installed to the recommended X:\\PortableApps\\AppNamePortable directory. PAFs are Windows apps, self-contained so don't have to be installed locally onto the C:\\ drive. Though Windows apps, can be used in Linux if compatible with Wine. AND still works with Windows!) (And I guess keep a few movies and music too for portable entertainment on the road/in between fixing computers.) So what should this last partition be: FAT32 or NTFS?

Bottom line for this project: I want optimum compatibility (Linux+Windows) + file system efficiency + don't want troubles later (eg, lost data, whatnots).

This is something I have been able to find out, FWIW:



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Thanks for your help in the matter!

EDIT:

Might be some miscategorizations cuz remember, I'm a Linux nQQb and my own interpretations of what I read compared against my knowledge, haha:


• Advanced Search @ http://distrowatch.com/search [.php OPTIONAL] w/ ''Rescue'' , ''Ubuntu.com-BASED'', ''Active'' checkboxes checked:

1. BackTrack ( http://distrowatch.com/backtrack )
BackTrack is an Ubuntu-based distribution with a collection of security and forensics tools. It was created by merging Auditor Security Linux with WHAX (formerly Whoppix).
2. GnackTrack ( http://distrowatch.com/gnacktrack )
GnackTrack is an Ubuntu-based distribution and live CD featuring a collection of utilities for penetration testing.
3. Ubuntu Rescue Remix ( http://distrowatch.com/ubunturescue )
Ubuntu Rescue Remix is a GNU/Linux live system which runs from CD or USB Flash device. It provides the data recovery specialist with a command-line interface environment equipped with some of the best free and open source data recovery and forensics tools available.[I think ''command-line interface'' gonna intimidate me!]

• Advanced Search with ''firewall'' checked:

Debris Linux ( http://distrowatch.com/debris )
Debris Linux is a minimalist, desktop-oriented distribution and live CD based on Ubuntu. It includes the GNOME desktop and a small set of popular desktop applications, such as GNOME Office, Firefox web browser, Pidgin instant messenger, and ufw firewall manager. Debris Linux ships with a custom kernel, a custom system installer called DebI, and a script that makes it easy to save and restore any customisations made while in live mode.


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Onto matter at hand/''my project'': I want to create a multi-boot bootable external rescue disk. Can said rescue disk be in the form of actually being a rescue HDD ...

If your motherboard supports booting from USB (which anything built in the last five years or so should support) then just go ahead and install whatever distro you choose onto the external drive. Just make certain you install grub onto the external drive too, so that it can boot from the external drive without needing the internal drive.

I did this when I was trying out Linux Mint Debian Edition on my laptop and other than being a little bit slow for some file operations (like creating lots of small files) it works perfectly. This allowed me to test LMDE and make sure it was going to work on my laptop without having to find space and repartition the relatively small internal drive in my laptop.

Anyway, if you want to use it as a "rescue" disk than just install whatever tools you think you'll need, such as gparted. Or, since you'll have a full-blown distro with internet capabilities on the external hdd, you can just download the tools as needed.
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I would suggest you not make this a Windows-centric USB device. Windows is very limited as to what file systems it supports, and the best file systems for large video files (jfs) doesn't enjoy Windows support.

You can install a full Linux distro on a USB drive, as Mac The Knife has said. This can then be booted, if your mobo/BIOS allows USB booting. That then would serve as your "rescue HDD". You can then just mount the existing USB partitions on your regular Linux installation. If there was ever a problem with your regular Linux boot, you could always then boot from the USB drive.

As for the Linux distro to use, I would avoid the lesser know distros, and stick to the popular ones. This insures proper support and help from online forums. I would never recommend Backtrack (or Gnacktrack), as those are distros pretending to be "network security testers", but in reality are distros made to break into wired and wireless networks. This practice is illegal in most countries.

When I moderated at Linux Forums, there were many members asking how to get Backtrack to work to "penetrate" wireless networks. I know that I could help them do this. But With Great Knowledge Comes Great Responsibility.
So not only did I refuse, but I admonished them for even trying.

If you use the JFS file system, it can be accessed by Windows. You must share the folder/partition as a Samba network share. You can then access it from a Windows computer.
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Hi Sweepsnregs,

I hope you have started with your project. I am sure it will consume a lot of time & very challenging.

''Live'' CD/DVD maybe even USB flash stick...but never rescue HDD)? So a rescue HDD possible?

Yes, it is possible. I have such rescue HDD multiboot with multipartition on USB external HDD.
1st Partition NTFS: full install XP system (portable)
2nd & 3rd Partition NTFS: 90% of Linux Distros work on this partition.
4th Partition FAT32: The rest of them must be on this partition
5th Partition EXT3: for future full install Linux system

About 70 windows and linux distros work fine so far under GRUB4DOS:

--- Windows Systems & dos ----
Portable XPro System (NTFS)
MiniXPe+
microXpE+
Win7 32 Recovery Disk
Vista 32 Recovery Disk
Konboot
MHDD32VER4.6
Plop boot manager
98SE_CD
DSRfixer
Freedos
NTFS4DOS
Portable Applications

--- USB Windows Installation ----
WinXP Pro install
Win7 Install

--- Virus Scanner ----
Eset32 RescueCD
Norton AntiVir Rescue 2011
BitDefender RescueCD
Avast BartCD+
AVIRA AntiVir RescueCD
Kaspersky Rescue 2010
Panda Safe CD 32 Bit
Panda Safe CD 64 Bit
f-secure-rescue
GdataCD 2010
AVG RescueCD
Acronis malware Rescue CD

--- Linux Distros ----
Parted Magic 6
Puppy 5.25
Austrumi1 233
SliTaz 3.0
TinyCore 36
DSL-N
Geexbox 2
Kolibri
nimblex 2010
xPUD 0.9.2
Jolicloud (NetBook)
Slax 6.1.2 (KDE)
Linux Mint 10
Ubuntu 10.10 (GNOME)
Kubuntu10
Lubuntu10
Xubuntu10
ctbankix.iso
Unity32
BackTrack 4
GnackTrackR6
YlmF (Windows Like OS)
Debian Live
Fedora14
PCLinuxOS 2010
Redo Backup and Recovery
System Rescue CD
Deft_6.1
Swiftlinux
Incognito/tails 0.7
Peppermint Linux
EasyPeasy 1.6 (NetBook Distro)
UbuntuStudioPE2.1.iso
Sabayon55 gnome
dyne-2.5.2
Pureoslight03
KNOPPIX
clonezilla
SMS
EaseusPM8
PartitionWizard
Norton GHOST
RescueKit_OSX
Mac-CampTune
Vboot
Gujin
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