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post #61 of 104 Old 05-17-2012, 08:00 PM
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This Hybryde looks like it might be fun to play with. It would definitely give users an easy way to see which desktop they liked.


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So, for the Unity haters, if you can't find one of these desktops to your liking-
Kde, Gnome3, Unity, E17, XFCE, LXDE, and FVWM/OPENBOX, plus Mate and CInnamon in Mint13

there's no hope for you

Not until the computer brain scans me and develops a desktop based on what I like. I am almost afraid of what would be thrown together.

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I'm typing from Hybryde right now, using the XFCE desktop at the moment

At minimum, Hybyde is an extremely cool technical feat. Switching among desktops is almost instantaneous, no logging out as advertised.

Appears to have Ubuntu Software center, and far more apps installed by default, including Flash and I assume other media related codecs.

Might make a good choice for those wanting an Ubuntu 12.04/Mint13 compatible distro fully loaded from the get go and can't decide which desktop to use.

KDE appeared to be the only desktop to hang the system when I tried to leave KDE and switch back to the default boot up screen/Hybyde Menu. KDE always seems the "odd man out" for me...

Trivial to drag/drop Hybyde onto a USB stick to boot it up, as I'm doing now, using Multisystem

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/39747...b-flash-drive/
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Now I'm in Gnome3, switched in a few seconds. Quite impressive geek toy.

This is a prime example of why it's important for a distro to achieve "critical mass" and mindshare/marketshare- lots of compatible derivatives to choose from, making a nice ecosystem/distro family.

In the case of Ubuntu, we have everything from the most memory/CPU efficient, Lucid Puppy, to Mythbuntu, Ubuntu Studio, MInt, and now Hybryde, as well as all the others

http://distrowatch.com/search.php?os...&status=Active
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http://www.extix.se/

Another desktop to try

http://razor-qt.org/

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ExTiX 10 64-bit is a remastered build of Ubuntu 12.04. The original system includes the Unity 5.8 desktop. After removing Unity I have installed GNOME 3.4, GNOME Shell and Razor-qt so that everyone can compare the different desktop environments. The system language is English. Installed programs include LibreOffice 3.5.3, AbiWord, Firefox 12.0, Opera, Thunderbird 12.0.1, Brasero, VLC 2.0.1, GIMP and win32 codecs. In addition, Java and all necessary additions are available in order to install programs from source. All programs have been updated to the latest available stable versions as of May 17, 2012. I have installed NVIDIA driver 295.53 so that you can enjoy the full GNOME desktop.

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Zorin OS 6 Core Release Candidate has landed!

http://zoringroup.com/blog/2012/05/1...te-has-landed/

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After a long year of development, The Zorin OS Team are very proud to release the Zorin OS 6 Core Release Candidate, the pre-release version of our groundbreaking new operating system. Zorin OS 6 has been our most significant leap forward since Zorin OS’s initial release nearly 3 years ago. At the core of Zorin OS 6 lies our new, unique desktop environment named “Zorin Desktop” instead of the Unity, Gnome Shell and Cinnamon offerings. Zorin Desktop embraces all of the latest and greatest of Open Source software and technologies such as Gtk3 and other software from the GNOME 3 software stack, all without affecting the familiarity and usability of the desktop which still retains its Windows 7-like default look and our innovative Zorin Look Changer which allows users to choose between the Windows 7, XP and GNOME 2 graphical interfaces. Zorin Desktop uses AWN as the default panel to allow for unparalleled customizability and support for our different looks in the Zorin Look Changer. Along with the new desktop environment Zorin OS 6 RC packs a ton of software updates, a newly redesigned Software Center, Linux Kernel version 3.2 and a load of other improvements and features. We also include our Zorin Web Browser Manager to ease the installation of web browsers. As Zorin OS 6 is based on Ubuntu 12.04 it is an LTS (Long Term Support) release, provided with 5 years of security updates.

The Zorin OS 6 Core Release Candidate is made to get your feedback on what we have created so far. It is only available as a 32 bit version but the final version of Zorin OS 6 will also be available in 64 bit. You can download Zorin OS 6 Core RC here.

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Zorin OS 6 Core Release Candidate has landed!

http://zoringroup.com/blog/2012/05/1...te-has-landed/



http://www.zorin-os.com/releasecandidate.html

This looks to be made for their Atom based convertible netbook/tablet. I a going to try it on my Atom based tablet.

A direct download link:

Zorin OS 6 RC 32-bit
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Man you guys really search out these distros.

I don't see anything for me in Zorin. If I wanted to use a Windows look alike, then I would just use Windows. One should set their sights higher than a Yugo.

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 One should set their sights higher than a Yugo.

In general I agree. However, for Linux noobs/converts from Windows, having a familiar look/layout is sometimes helpful, at least in the short term.

 

Think of these Win look-alike desktops as a nicotine patch for the recovering masses :D

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Dream Studio 12.04 Official Release

http://dream.dickmacinnis.com/forum/node/2201

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Dick MacInnis has announced the release of Dream Studio 12.04, an Ubuntu-based distribution with a goal of helping users to create graphics, videos, music and websites: "DickMacInnis.com is pleased to announce the immediate availability of Dream Studio 12.04, the latest version of our popular multimedia content creation suite. 12.04 is the best Dream Studio ever, featuring graphic design and photography tools, composition and audio editing applications, and programs for video editing, script-writing, and physical media authoring. Some of the features Dream Studio users have come to know and love: a full desktop operating system based on Ubuntu, for unprecedented security, stability, portability, and ease of use; graphic design tools such as Inkscape for vector graphics, and GIMP for painting and photo retouching...."

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Some of the features Dream Studio users have come to know and love:


- A full desktop operating system based on Ubuntu, for unprecedented security, stability, portability, and ease of use.

- Graphic design tools such as Inkscape for vector graphics, and GIMP for painting and photo retouching.

- Photography apps like the aforementioned GIMP for professional retouching, RawTherapee for RAW photo editing, Darktable for workflow and developing, and Luminance for HDR photography.

- Audio recording software like Ardour, hundreds of effects plugins and virtual instruments, and DJ tools such as Mixxx , SooperLooper, and Xwax.

- Blender for 3D image modeling, animation, and video editing. Dream Studio also includes luxrender and yafaray.

- Cinelerra for video editing and compositing.

- The GIMP Animation Package for frame-by-frame video retouching.

- Kompozer (a WYSIWYG web page editor), Scribus (a desktop publishing app), and Bombono (a DVD authoring program).



Dream Studio 12.04 also adds to this list the following improvements:


- Gimp 2.8, featuring the new single window interface.

- Sozi - an inkscape extension for creating svg animations (can be used with any browser supporting html5)

- A sane set of "favorite" plugins and session templates for Ardour

- A large collection of Impulse Responses.

- Ubuntu 12.04 as a system base, for 5 year support

- a new semi-rolling release schedule, giving users the latest versions of multimedia sofware with the most up-to-date feature set, while maintaining a stable base during the entire LTS cycle. Now you don't need to upgrade your entire OS every six months just to get the latest version of Ardour, GIMP, or Blender.

- an all new look, featuring a wallpaper that changes with the time of day (based on "Stripe" by hyperdude111)

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Installed Zorin on my Atom based tablet. It isn't really a Windows look alike, but I do see a similarity in the menu. I don't find it any better than my Gnome-openSUSE install, so I will most likely not use Zorin.
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Dream Studio sounds more or less exactly like a repackaged Ubuntu Studio.
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Dream Studio sounds more or less exactly like a repackaged Ubuntu Studio.

It appears Ubuntu Studio may be better for the audiophile/ audio editing due to its low latency kernel and pre configured Jack drivers.

OTOH, DreamStudio has the new GIMP 2.8 and lots of other graphics related plugins and apps for the graphics/video enthusiast. Plus, for ongoing maintenance, DreamStudio offers;

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- a new semi-rolling release schedule, giving users the latest versions of multimedia sofware with the most up-to-date feature set, while maintaining a stable base during the entire LTS cycle. Now you don't need to upgrade your entire OS every six months just to get the latest version of Ardour, GIMP, or Blender.

which can be important for noobs or any users that don't want to waste time mucking around with maintaining/chasing external PPA's or recompiling new app versions.
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Linux Mint 13 “Maya” released!

http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2031

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Written by Clem on Wednesday, May 23rd, 2012 @ 10:54 am

The team is proud to announce the release of Linux Mint 13 “Maya”.

Available in two editions, Linux Mint 13 features the choice between a productive, stable and mature MATE 1.2 desktop and the brand new modern-looking and exciting Cinnamon 1.4. These two desktops are among the best available, they’re perfectly integrated within Linux Mint and represent great alternatives to Gnome 2 users. Linux Mint 13 is also an LTS (Long Term Support) release and it will be supported until April 2017.

Downloads

http://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=18
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http://linuxmint.com/rel_maya.php

What's New

http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_maya_whatsnew.php

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New features in Linux Mint 13
With the rock-solid MATE 1.2 and the brand new Cinnamon 1.4, Linux Mint provides a choice between two of the most popular Linux desktops. Whether you're looking for a mature and productive environment, or you're interested in being part of an exciting new adventure, we hope you enjoy your experience with Linux Mint 13. Both the MATE and the Cinnamon edition were built with the highest quality of integration and will be supported until April 2017.

MATE 1.2

Linux Mint 13 "Maya" MATE Edition
Until Linux Mint 11, the main edition featured a "Gnome 2" desktop. In the last two years, Gnome 2 was discontinued and abandoned by its development team and a majority of Linux distributions. Developers in the Linux community gathered and joined forces within a new project, called MATE, to save the Gnome 2 desktop. The latest Gnome 2 codebase was renamed and MATE now provides the same desktop as Gnome 2 under a different name.

Pros:

MATE is stable and it works on all computers
MATE is among the most productive and easy to use desktops available.
MATE continues where Gnome 2 left off and introduces its own incremental improvements.
MATE comes with support for mintMenu, mintDesktop, Compiz and everything that made Gnome 2 the most popular Linux desktop.
MATE is built with GTK2, it features more themes and integrates with more applications than any other desktop.
Cons:

Some parts of Gnome 2 were not migrated to MATE yet and a few aspects such as Bluetooth support might not work as well as they did with Gnome 2.
Cinnamon 1.4

Linux Mint 13 "Maya" Cinnamon Edition
Cinnamon was born for the same reasons as MATE. Gnome 2 was one of the core components of Linux Mint, and Gnome 3 lacked the features and design of a suitable alternative. Linux Mint started by developing the extra features it needed on top of Gnome 3 and eventually started to develop its own environment called Cinnamon.

Both Linux Mint and the MATE project came up with really good alternatives to Gnome, but in completely different ways.

Cinnamon is built on Clutter and Gnome 3. It's a modern-looking environment with a traditional and familiar desktop. It features compositing, animations and some unique innovations but it relies on 3D acceleration, lacks some of the features found in Gnome 2 and isn't yet compatible with every graphics card available on the market.

Pros:

Cinnamon is among the sleekest and most modern looking environments
Cinnamon features innovative features and emphasis on productivity with traditional desktop metaphors
Cinnamon is built on rapid technologies and its development pace is really fast
The Cinnamon community is very active, and produces a lot of new themes and applets
Cons:

Cinnamon requires 3D acceleration and might not work well for you, depending on your graphics card and/or drivers.
Cinnamon is brand new and unfortunately not yet as stable as more mature and established desktops such as MATE, KDE or Xfce.
Cinnamon relies on Gnome 3 and Clutter, which are also both brand new and going through rapid transformations.

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http://www.snowlinux.de/blog/380-sno...-mate-released

http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=snowlinux


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Snowlinux Lars Torben Kremer has announced the release of Snowlinux 2 "MATE" edition, an Ubuntu-based distribution featuring the GNOME 2-like MATE desktop: "The team is proud to announce the release of Snowlinux 2 'Cream'. Snowlinux 2 'Cream' is based upon Ubuntu 12.04 and is supported for 5 years until April 2017. This is one of the reason why Plymouth was removed. Due to drastic changes with GNOME 3 and Unity, Snowlinux has a traditional desktop - MATE. New features: MATE 1.2, Linux kernel 3.2, Chromium 18, Firefox 12, Thunderbird 12.0.1; Snowlinux Metal theme and icons; open as administrator; open in terminal; delete permanently; terminal colors; Universe, Multiverse and Medibuntu repositories; better software selection; improved speed and response; new look and feel; system improvements."

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Another reason I like to support Ubuntu/Canonical/Shuttleworth-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Toaster

http://www.freedomtoaster.org/

Despite the emotional backlash re: Unity, AFAICT, Shuttleworth has never shown he wasn't one of the "good guys", one of the new breed of entrepreneurs trying to build a business model based on FOSS principles and ethical practices.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Shuttleworth
 

Another of the new breed-

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk

 

http://ir.teslamotors.com/directors.cfm

 

http://www.spacex.com/company.php

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Snowlinux 2 "Cream" Cinnamon released!

http://www.snowlinux.de/blog/413-sno...namon-released

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Snowlinux 2 "Cream" is based upon the LTS edition Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin" and is supported for 5 years until April 2017. Because of the fact of LTS this edition is extremly stable and fast. Due drastic changes with Gnome 3 and Unity, Snowlinux is getting as always a traditional desktop like Gnome 2, the Gnome 3 fork Cinnamon and the Gnome 3 Fallback.


New features:

Linux kernel 3.2.0-24
Cinnamon 1.4-UP3
Gnome 3.4
Chromium-Browser 18
Thunderbird 13
Firefox 13
Cinnamon-Themes
Snowlinux-Metal-Theme
Snowlinux-Metal-Icons
universe, multiverse and Medibuntu repository
Terminal colors
Open as administrator
Open in terminal
Better software selection
Improved speed and response
New look and feel
System improvements



Upstream information:

Snowlinux 2 "Cream" is based upon Ubuntu 12.04 Precise Pangolin. It comes with the long-term-support (LTS) Linux kernel 3.2 which were made available upstream and MATE 1.2. It has installed chromium-browser, icedove, banshee and shotwell by default.



Life cycle:

Snowlinux 2 "Cream" is a LTS edition and supported until April 2017.



Compatibility with Ubuntu:

Snowlinux 2 "Cream" is 100 % compatible with Ubuntu's Repository.


System requirements:

x86-CPU
512 MB memory
4 GB free disk space
Graphics card capable of 800×600 resolution
CD-ROM drive or USB port

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Looks like a nice KDE based Ubuntu 12.04 derivative-

http://www.netrunner-os.com/

Latest release-

http://www.netrunner-os.com/dryland-second-edition-released/
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Right now, I am pretty angry about this Flash crap. In the last two weeks, flash crashes almost every time I use it. I will have to see if this Linux or Ubuntu specific.

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Right now, I am pretty angry about this Flash crap. In the last two weeks, flash crashes almost every time I use it. I will have to see if this Linux or Ubuntu specific.
I found that when I tried to play a video posted to Facebook, it would crash. It seems to work OK on You Tube.This was the same on Firefox and Chrome browsers.
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Right now, I am pretty angry about this Flash crap. In the last two weeks, flash crashes almost every time I use it. I will have to see if this Linux or Ubuntu specific.

What site(s) are crashing Flash for you?

What GPU and driver are you using when Flash crashes?

What version of Flash?

Are you using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu 12.04?

Is Compiz/compositing enabled?
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PinguyOS 12.04 LTS Released


http://pinguyos.com/2012/06/pinguyos-12-04-lts-released/
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What site(s) are crashing Flash for you?
What GPU and driver are you using when Flash crashes?
What version of Flash?
Are you using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu 12.04?
Is Compiz/compositing enabled?

Just about every site.
Nvidia 295.4
latest
64 bit

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Just about every site.
Nvidia 295.4
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64 bit

It was only last Fall that 64 bit Flash was ironed out in Ubuntu. Prior to that, 32bit FLash was used with a wrapper

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/flash-ubuntu-64-install-easily-1110

Are you using 64 bit Firefox and 64 bit Flash?

I suspect if you switched to Ubuntu 32 bit and all 32 bit Firefox/Flash the issue would go away.
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Right now, I am pretty angry about this Flash crap. In the last two weeks, flash crashes almost every time I use it. I will have to see if this Linux or Ubuntu specific.

Same here on Scientific Linux 6.2 (64 bit) with latest Seamonkey and latest LTS Firefox and latest Flash, so I don't think it's Ubuntu specific.
And I thought it was specific to my setup or to the ATI fglrx drivers I use on this box.

Since you are using Nvidia and me ATI it can't be a xorg driver issue, also as I said I'm using SL6.2 with plain Gnome2 (so no 3D desktop) so it looks like a general issue across distros and graphics drivers/GPUs.

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It was only last Fall that 64 bit Flash was ironed out in Ubuntu. Prior to that, 32bit FLash was used with a wrapper
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/flash-ubuntu-64-install-easily-1110
Are you using 64 bit Firefox and 64 bit Flash?
I suspect if you switched to Ubuntu 32 bit and all 32 bit Firefox/Flash the issue would go away.

I don't think it's a general 64 bit flash issue (it might be specific to recent releases of flash though), older versions of 64 bit flash 6-8 months ago where working just fine.

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I don't think it's a general 64 bit flash issue (it might be specific to recent releases of flash though), older versions of 64 bit flash 6-8 months ago where working just fine.

I started a thread

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1417427/flash-issues-on-linux

to continue with Flash issue discussion
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Ultimate Edition 3.4 was built off Ubuntu 12.04 'Precise Pangolin'. All updates fully applied, old kernels purged, new initrd and vmlinuz rebuilt. Ultimate Edition 3.4 is what 2.6 series was - a stable environment. GNOME, the default environment is rock solid. Ultimate Edition 3.4 has a new GTK+ 3 theme and a comprehensive set of software packages. I have really placed thought and diligence into what this product is. Ultimate Edition 3.4 takes things to a whole new level. It was developed with stability in mind, sorry KDE users, we will catch you in Ultimate Edition 3.5. This OS will be my primary OS for some time to come. That statement alone says a lot for my feeling on this operating system

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http://downloads.sourceforge.net/ultimateedition/ultimate-edition-3.4-x64.iso
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Thanks for the links; and also the many useful posts you and others have done in this thread.

Easiest way is likely to be to just simply load it and find out.

The x64 .iso is 3GB and took 1 hr 50 min to d/l.

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Clement Lefebvre has announced the availability of the Xfce edition of Linux Mint 13, codename Maya. From the what's new page: "The highlight of this edition is the latest Xfce 4.10 desktop, which features the following improvements: online documentation; application finder; multiple rows and deskbar mode in the panel; actions plugin; MIME type editor; single-click operation, automated background image cycling and thumbnail rendering on the desktop; edge-tiling in the window manager. In the past, the xfapplet plugin made it possible for Xfce users to run GNOME applets within the Xfce panel. After talking to the MATE and Xfce developers, we updated this plugin and it now supports MATE applets. Among the many MATE applets that can now run in Xfce, mintMenu is probably the most popular. Improvements were made to mintMenu so that it could support Thunar, the Xfce Settings Manager and other aspects of the Xfce desktop...."

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Linux Mint 13 features the following upstream components: Ubuntu 12.04, Linux 3.2, Xfce 4.10.

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http://torrents.linuxmint.com/torrents/linuxmint-13-xfce-dvd-64bit.iso.torrent
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