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http://www.avsforum.com/t/1402815/ubuntu-12-04-precise-thread/60#post_22164766

As you may be aware, Adobe has no plans to support Flash on Firefox or any other Linux browser other than Chrome moving forward.

http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2012/02/adobe-and-google-partnering-for-flash-player-on-linux.html

https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html

http://www.internetnews.com/blog/skerner/mozilla-doesnt-want-pepper-for-linux-flash.html

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=729481

So, Flash 11.2 will be the last version for Mozilla browsers (Firefox/Seamonkey), other than periodic security only updates.

To use the latest Flash from this day forward, you'll need to use Chrome, despite the privacy issues with Chrome.

To address the 64bit Flash crash issues from the Ubuntu 12.04 thread, you might want to try earlier versions, simply manually moving (mv) or copying (cp) the libflashplayer.so file to the directories:

Firefox
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

Chrome/Chromium
/opt/google/chrome/plugins

which is all it takes to "install" Flash- nothing more than moving/copying the libflashplayer.so file to the correct directory (folder) with root (admin) rights.

Rename the existing libflashplayer.so file to libflashplayer.so.bak or similar before using

sudo mv libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins

or

sudo cp libflashplayer.so /opt/google/chrome/plugins

You need sudo to put the libflashplayer.so file in the target directories because those directories require root (Admin) privileges.

(I'm sure you regulars know this stuff- clarifying for noobs)

Adobe archived Flash versions
http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.htmlv

Download the .zip for the version you want at the bottom. The zip contains Win, OSX, and Linux versions, 32 and 64 bit.
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Chrome already uses its own Flash binary libflashplayergc.so-

http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086

which shows how to enable it.

Of course, those of us who care about privacy and anonymity on the web may just stop using Flash altogether:

https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
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For both client consistency and services such as advertising and analytics that drive revenue, Adobe is the only company that can meet the needs of premium content owners. Adobe's goal is to help premium content owners bring more of their content online and to monetize this content to its maximum potential. Its advanced video solutions leverage the Flash runtimes to provide a secure way to deliver high-quality content on the plethora of devices that consumers use and do so without much friction. Second, Adobe's monetization technologies enable content owners to extract the most value from their content by allowing ads to be inserted dynamically and enabling analytics, reporting, and audience segmentation.

and live with the consequences if the alternative is control and tracking of your web usage via sites that use Flash.

Flash is just a locked down, closed blob to allow content providers to control and track what you do while using Flash enabled content (games, video feeds, etc), creating a closed, propietary interface on the open web, re-creating what the cable/sat providers do with their closed systems and set top boxes.
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I just installed the 32 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 with Intel integrated graphics (i5-2500k). So far I am having no issues with Firefox or Chromium. I have tried multiple websites and everyone has worked.





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Chrome already uses its own Flash binary libflashplayergc.so-
http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=108086
which shows how to enable it.
Of course, those of us who care about privacy and anonymity on the web may just stop using Flash altogether:
https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplatform/whitepapers/roadmap.html
and live with the consequences if the alternative is control and tracking of your web usage via sites that use Flash.
Flash is just a locked down, closed blob to allow content providers to control and track what you do while using Flash enabled content (games, video feeds, etc), creating a closed, propietary interface on the open web, re-creating what the cable/sat providers do with their closed systems and set top boxes.

I knew you would have to throw in this comment. No, I am not willing to live with the consequences. There are to many sites that I wish to view their videos and Flash is the only option at the moment. Hopefully in the next year or two that will change.

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I just installed the 32 bit version of Ubuntu 12.04 with Intel integrated graphics (i5-2500k). So far I am having no issues with Firefox or Chromium. I have tried multiple websites and everyone has worked.
I knew you would have to throw in this comment. No, I am not willing to live with the consequences. There are to many sites that I wish to view their videos and Flash is the only option at the moment. Hopefully in the next year or two that will change.

Yeah- years ago I tried to remain neutral on these forums. Maybe it's age (or experience/wisdom wink.gif ), but I'm less tolerant and patient nowadays re: policy issues like this.

I'm probably turning off noobs with "zealot" commentary like that, but if Linus can give Nvidia and others a dressing down, I can do a little soapboxing occasionally, too biggrin.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/18/linus-torvalds-nvidia-linux/

But I'll strive (as should we all) to remain factual and HOWTO-ish moving forward on these forums, and leave the political/policy issues for the youngin's to rant over smile.gif
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...but if Linus can give Nvidia and others a dressing down...
And I disagree with what Linus did. The one thing that allows us to use Linux as a HTPC, proprietary nVidia Linux drivers, he seems to be dead set against. If we lose nVidia support, I will go back to using Windows for HTPC use.
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And I disagree with what Linus did. The one thing that allows us to use Linux as a HTPC, proprietary nVidia Linux drivers, he seems to be dead set against. If we lose nVidia support, I will go back to using Windows for HTPC use.

I actually agree with you, i.e. don't like the way Linus handled Nvidia. I was being facetious with the dressing down remark.

The core FOSS people appear to have little tact, civility or political-saavy, which is both a blessing and curse for the RMS's, ESR's and LT's of the world. They too often bite the hands (those that keep Linux machines functional in the real world, proprietary or not) that feed us, without recognizing the great danger in pissing off some of them, which could have catastrophic short term consequences to real world users like us if they decide to pick up their toys and leave the Linux desktop sandbox.

I cringed when I saw the Linus/Nvidia debacle. On the bright side, AMD/ATI drivers steadily improve, and maybe by the time Nvidia decides to drop Linux desktop support (no rumors, just a hypothetical), ATI will be ready for prime time, as well as Intel GPU's, though I like to use AMD CPU's.

Another option for HTPC users moving forward will be the ARM boards like the Samsung ODROID-X quad core with Mali GPU.

http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=ODROID-X

With alternative GPU's on ARM like Mali and PowerVR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_(GPU)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVR

ARM's New GPUs to Step up Mobile War With NVIDIA, Imagination Tech.


http://www.dailytech.com/ARMs+New+GPUs+to+Step+up+Mobile+War+With+NVIDIA+Imagination+Tech/article23247.htm

the whole Intel/Nvidia/AMD GPU tri-opoly may crumble and be moot for media PC users if more ODROID-X class boards keep hitting the streets from many vendors, with more cores/Ghz/and better GPUs moving forward.
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I am still going strong without any issues. I guess 32 bit was the cure. My only issue I have now is the stupid Ubuntu update.

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