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I have been using openelec for a while and got myself this unit and configured to run it off of a cruiser fit low profile thumbdrive . Installed 4 gb ram in the unit and started it. its fanless, noise less design make it one Perfect htpc . I have some unboxed pictures and a review of this unit at -
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hope someone who is looking to order this finds this useful . I was hesitant to order this as I did not find any good reviews either on xbmc or openelec forums .. My way of giving back to the great openelec and xbmc opensource projects
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Interesting unit, better link-

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/living/entertainment-center/403/mc001-e.html

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CPU Dual Core Intel Atom D525 (1.8GHz)
Graphics ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5430, 512MB GDDR3
Chipset Intel NM10
Memory Compatibility Max. memory size: 2 x 4GB
Memory type: SODIMM DDR3 800/1066/1333
Storage Compatibility Form factor: 2.5” (9.5 mm thick only)
OS None
ODD DVD-RW 24x
Wireless IEEE 802.11 b/g/n
LAN 10/100/1000 Ethernet
TV Tuner (optional) DVB-T or ATSC
Audio Onboard analog stereo high-definition audio (ALC892)
7.1- Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio (HDMI)
Optical Digital S/PDIF audio output
Back Panel 3.5mm audio I/O jack x 6 (7.1 OUT x 4, LINE IN x 1, Mic x 1)
SPDIF port/optical x 1
VGA port x 1
HDTV interface x 1 (HDTV cable included)
Ethernet RJ45 port x 1 USB 2.0 port x 5
DC power jack x 1
Front Panel IR receiver x 1
USB 3.0 port x 2
3.5mm stereo I/O jack x 2 (Headphone, Mic)
4-in-1 memory card reader x 1
Power Supply 19V DC 60W
Volume 1.5 L
Product Dimensions (L x W x H) w/o stand: 143 L x 40 W x 266 H mm
w/ stand: 161 L x 65 W x 275 H mm
Packaging Dimensions (L x W x H) 205 L x 130 W x 329 H mm
Limited Warranty 2 years
UPC EU Plug: 0872767004412
UK Plug: 0872767004344
US Plug: 0872767004276
AU Plug: 0872767005525
itemnumber DPACO-MC10311-GB
UPC
Gross Weight 3 kg

Be nicer if the GPU was a VDPAU capable Nvidia chip, or at least an ATI 6xxx series or Intel GMA 4500 or higher.

CPU looks a little anemic for an HD HTPC- a quad core A6/A8 AMD APU would be a better choice.

At this stage of the game, its time for the quad core Tegra3/Tegra4 (ARM CPU+Nvidia GPU) to take over HTPC on Linux.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra#Tegra_4

It's clear that moving forward, unless Intel/AMD step up their game, ARM CPU's will be the desktop/notebook/netbook/tablet/HTPC mainstays for Linux. I hope so- time to dethrone the old Kings (Intel+AMD)...

Just an aside-
It's utterly clear now that we (FOSS/Linux) actually "won" (over OSX/Win/$CLOSED_OS's). Installing the latest Xubuntu 12.10 over the weekend for my Mom proved it. I thought it would need to dual boot with win7 for her games, but her casino slots games (Real Deal, etc) now work on Wine 1.5x. Coupled with Chrome Apps Store games, native games, Steam on Linux, Humble Bundles, and all the old standby FOSS games, there is now no reason for anyone to use WIn/OSX any longer.


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I just bought 4 of these from Amazon Germany (I'm In Ireland) who were selling the barebones unit for €99ea , I added 4x 4gb Ram €22ea + 4x 16gb USB Stick €18ea.

So €140 per unit for an Openelec (XBMC) appliance. ie. Something better than the likes of the PIVOS for only €30 more

For my purposes and at that price they are ideal and a bargain.

However I would indeed desire the specs you mentioned and be prepared to pay more if I had need of more performance for a fully featured HTPC. These units launched back in Oct 2011 after all. If I paid the Nov 2012 price of €250+ I'd definitely feel like I was paying over the odds for 15 month old technology and one could probably get more performance elsewhere for that kind of money. But at €140 for a simple Openelec XBMC client. Bargain!!!
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I think you should avoid this machine for Linux because ATI graphics on Linux are problematic at best and the ATOM processor in this unit will not render full HD television. It doesn't have enough power. You would be much better off with an Atom/ION2 machine.
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I think you should avoid this machine for Linux because ATI graphics on Linux are problematic at best and the ATOM processor in this unit will not render full HD television. It doesn't have enough power. You would be much better off with an Atom/ION2 machine.

So it can't handle true 1080p? That's not what the specs say. I just finished ordering all the parts for my first DIY home server build and I was looking at this HTPC for the living room entertainment center. I was hoping for the headless sever to be an all in one, but the fact that I've never dealt with serves of any kind before I guess made me think that was a good option. I guess trying to run XBMC on a headless Windows 2011 Home Server platform would be less than ideal..?

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So it can't handle true 1080p? That's not what the specs say. I just finished ordering all the parts for my first DIY home server build and I was looking at this HTPC for the living room entertainment center. I was hoping for the headless sever to be an all in one, but the fact that I've never dealt with serves of any kind before I guess made me think that was a good option. I guess trying to run XBMC on a headless Windows 2011 Home Server platform would be less than ideal..?

It plays 1080p H264 and VC-1 fine. I tested it with some 30+Mbps 1080p content.

1080i/1080 MPEG-2 would be problematic under linux because XVBA doesnt do MPEG-2 yet.
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Such a pity that this box has ATI/AMD graphics rather than nVidia.

AIUI it's fine running Windows, but under Linux you don't get decent de-interlacing and HD Audio bitstreaming via HDMI? Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on this.

Fine for 1080p/720p replay, not so hot for 1080i and 576i/480i TV viewing?

The €99 price is so tempting though...
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I recently got one of these that included a 1TB hard drive and some ram, with openelec and xbmc 'frodo' preinstalled. So far I am fairly happy with it, although as its my first experience with Linux of any kind, its taking a bit of getting used to.

One thing I can't see obviously is how to play blu ray folders of a hard drive, and it does seem to struggle (ie I get about 2 frames per second!) when playing certain MKVs I've made from BRs - A copy of Tomb Raider with DTS audio from a HD DVD will play seemlessly, but an MKV with DTS HD from Transformers 2 is a no go. Maybe I should give up on the HD audio?

I am thinking about seeing what its like with a copy of windows 7 on it, to see whether the issue is AMD vs Linux related, although at the moment I have no idea how to boot of the DVD or even enter the bios - I know, I'm rubbish at this!wink.gif If I could I'd see how it goes with TotalMedia 6 - might be a struggle with this CPU, but worth a punt I reckon!

I would be happy enough in reality if I just used it to play back all my TV shows, because its interface is great and silky smooth! Maybe DVD rips too! But it would be nice if it could handle all the HD DVDs I have ripped to my harddrives as well!
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Ok I've had this unit for a few weeks now...

I was having issues at first with freezing coming out of sleep mode, and when trying to reboot it would freeze, or if I tried to do anything while library was updating.

Then I updated manually to OpenElec 3.0 RC5 and these issues were resolved. It plays all my 1080p HD movies flawlessly. I don't download anything in "i" format, only 720p or 1080p so I can't comment on the de-interlacing.

My video library looks so polished! I have a WHS server and I am streaming all my content from there via the HTPC. I use media companion to scrape the info from the .nfo files I create. Then I just go into XBMC and Update Library.

I get a nice, neat alphabetical list of all my movies, home videos, tv shows, and music, with background art, ratings, and A/V information. It even automatically groups into series movies that have sequels.

Loving this thing so far. It's a bit buggy, but I've never used anything Linux-based that wasn't. Sometimes I still have to wait several minutes coming out of sleep before the HTPC can connect to the home network. Using static IPs and MAC filters...

Haven't figured out how to get live tv or record it yet. I downloaded a PVR add-on and I have the included antenna connected but nothing works. The dual core Atom and 2GB of RAM that comes with the XBMC/DVD unit seems to be more than enough to handle a lightweight platform like OpenElec. These people complaining about the specs must be too accustomed to the resource-hogging of Windows. biggrin.gif
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I have just got the MC001 working. I'm used to Linux, but I'm a bit perplexed by this little thingy. Yes, it installed (eventually ... it didn't like the first USB stick I was using), and yes, it looks quite nifty indeed, but ... no, I cannot get it to do a thing. Not anything (see below). Installing Windows 7 and Ubuntu Precise Pangolin was flawless. Ubuntu took less than one hour, including all updates. Windows was without issues, although it took much longer to get everything going, including updates and security software (no applications were installed).

Before setting it up for use as a HTPC, I did some testing by adding XBMC from the software centre in Ubuntu Precise Pangolin 12.04 L.T.S. (Long Term Support, in case anyone isn't familiar with it, supported until April 2017). I got everything I wanted. Dozens of shows, though in SD only, and pretty small native size at that. Even HGTV and DIY Network have a lot of shows available. Plenty of music stations. Everything worked out of the box. This Arctic Media Centre? Nothing. Absolutely no content seems to be available. I can't get any add-ons. Some forum posts over at the OpenELEC forum mention the context menu, but I can't even find that.

Having installed Ubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu, various versions of Puppy Linux, Mint, SliTaz, Knoppix ... on a dozen different machines, including some quite obscure ones, I have always been able to make progress with very little fuss, with very few exceptions (maybe one ancient DELL laptop from 1999). Recent laptops from 2005 onward have installed anything I wanted with 95% functionality right off the bat. This little thing with it's own version of OpenELEC, no less, won't do anything for me. Well ... I've only tried streaming, since that's all that I want for now, but it doesn't work.

Otherwise, so far, it's quite a good little unit.

Pros:
  • Price ($100 for the barebones unit, that has no DVD drive, hard drive or RAM).
  • Dedicated ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5430, 512MB GDDR3 graphics.
  • Fanless operation means complete silence.
  • Sufficient to be used as a compact desktop for normal office applications, Internet browsing, e-mail ...
  • No need for a hard drive at all to run OpenELEC, if you don't want one.
  • Quite an attractive design, in my opinion: with an aluminum side for cooling, next to the large heat sink; and a shiny plastic finish on the opposite side.
  • Small footprint if used upright as intended (for cooling to work properly).
  • TV Antenna and tuner seems to be included on most models. No idea how well the antenna works, though.
  • Remote control IR sensor on the front panel (compatible with Harmony remotes).
  • USB 3.0 x2 on the front panel.
  • USB 2.0 x4 on the rear panel.
  • SD Card reader on the front panel.
  • Bootable from USB 2.0 or SD Card media.
  • Optical audio output on the rear panel.
  • Six analogue audio outputs on the rear panel (audio and mic jacks on the front panel).
  • VGA and HDMI video outputs.
  • Boots from a fresh installation of Windows 7 in less than thirty seconds with a Solid State Drive.
  • Boots from a fresh installation of Ubuntu (full version) in less than thirty seconds with a Solid State Drive.
  • Ubuntu and OpenELEC shut down in three seconds flat.
  • Dedicated version of OpenELEC for Arctic means no need to add special video drivers (I added these successfully in Ubuntu, but it took a while to figure out how it had to be done properly).

Cons:
  • Atom D525 CPU is probably the weakest factor, if being used as a regular PC. May also limit options for use as a HTPC if not using lightweight Linux solutions such as OpenELEC.
  • huluPLUS doesn't seem to run very well in XBMC desktop environment (added to Ubuntu). Better in Windows that Linux for the moment, but not nearly as smooth as a simple Samsung DVD player with wifi connectivity.
  • Setting up wireless is far more complicated than any other Linux distro I've tried, except once, over five years ago, when it frequently had to be done with a command line interface, using mumbo jumbo (for mere mortals, that is)!
  • Have not been able to get OpenELEC to actually stream something yet!
  • Not intended to be used lying flat, which may limit placement options.
  • Passive cooling would mean that it should probably not be hidden in cabinets (restricting air flow and heat dissipation).
  • Not many sources of help if you get stuck, unlike Windows, or very popular Linux distros such as Ubuntu or Mint (very active user forums for all of those).
  • If you keep pulling your hair out, it might have long term consequences for your coiffure... eventually!

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... The dual core Atom and 2GB of RAM that comes with the XBMC/DVD unit seems to be more than enough to handle a lightweight platform like OpenElec. These people complaining about the specs must be too accustomed to the resource-hogging of Windows. biggrin.gif

Yes, this is most likely true. I have found that any full blown Linux distro will rarely even use swap memory if there is 2GB of RAM available. Most of them hover between 300MB and 900MB during normal usage, running four desktops, a half dozen open browsers, and a couple of Office applications at the same time. Anything above 4GB of RAM is probably a complete waste of time and money for OpenELEC or any lightweight distro. In fact, even for a full installation of Ubuntu, I wouldn't dream of using more than that. It's just not needed for normal desktop usage. Maybe gaming would change this outlook, but that's not my field of personal experience.

Windows Experience Index:

  • Processor: 3.5
  • Memory: 4.8
  • Graphics: 4.9
  • Gaming Graphics: 6.0
  • Primary Hard Disk: 7.6

That was with a Solid State Drive, of course, so the last score is not really relevant, I suppose. Still, the CPU seems fine to me, from a few days of testing. There is no lag at all when using standard Ubuntu desktop applications, and web browsers open within two seconds from a cold start. The graphics scores are almost double the scores from a laptop with an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M, if that is any guide.
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UPDATE!

Well, I just started the Arctic up again, and I was fooling around in the XBMC desktop environment for Ubuntu. I accidentally booted back up to OpenELEC which I had set in BIOS to start first, ignoring the internal SDD unless it was selected manually. The SDD has Windows 7 and XBMC for Ubuntu as boot options. Since OpenELEC was already loaded due to my oversight in not selecting the SDD for boot, I decided to go and try and get some add-ons again, and for no apparent reason, all the streaming shows ARE now available. How mysterious.

I'm used to things with Linux either working, or not working. I'm not used to them suddenly starting to work as if by divine intervention. Now, if only I could set the clock! It's showing the wrong time for some reason. It's the simplest thing to correct in any Linux O.S. I've ever used, but not OpenELEC. I can't find where it gets set at all. I'll see if I can set something differently in BIOS for this maybe, next time I boot.
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I've heard rumors of Linux distros that expect that the clock is set to GMT in the BIOS and don't have any workarounds for it being set to anything else, so you might have to go into BIOS and set the clock to whatever it takes to get the time display that you want on the desktop,
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Thanks for the info. I've solved it though, and I was too embarrassed to post what I did, but here goes. My pride will have to suffer in order to further the greater good, and hopefully help out another user at some point. Two things:

  1. The BIOS time was indeed wrong, so I corrected that, but it was still wrong when I restarted OpenELEC.
  2. It turns out that there is a simple way to set the time in OpenELEC, but you have to go searching for it. I had looked everywhere that I thought was logical, such as SYSTEM/OpenELEC, and SYSTEM/Settings/System. In fact, the time can be set by going to SYSTEM/Settings/Appearance! I suppose that is logical, if you think that the time "appears" to be wrong! Anyway, in the Appearance menu, you then have to select International. Right in there, nice and secret, nice and safe, are located Language, Region and Time zone settings.

In the meantime, the whole system is really starting to grow on me.

I'm going to install it on the internal SSD, though, I think. OpenELEC running from the USB stick takes ten or fifteen seconds longer to boot than the XBMC desktop running in Ubuntu from the internal SSD. That might seem trivial, but I'm sure that everyone remembers how annoying it used to be to wait for the first HD DVD and Blu-ray players to boot. Thirty seconds seems to be the limit of my patience. As I noted earlier, Ubuntu will indeed boot in thirty seconds. The XBMC desktop will boot in the same thirty seconds. OpenELEC requires about forty-five seconds to boot from the USB stick, but never exceeds fifty. Note that the first ten seconds of boot time are actual BIOS loading delays. Also, contrary to what I stated earlier in the Pros, although Ubuntu or the XBMC desktop in Ubuntu will indeed halt completely in three or four seconds, OpenELEC takes about ten seconds to halt. I'm thinking that this would also improve if I use the internal drive for OpenELEC.

I might even attempt to dual boot. OpenELEC do not recommend it, but the GRUB boot-loader should take care of things, if I install OpenELEC first (it wipes the entire drive), and Ubuntu second. The reason would be so that I can access Firefox normally in Ubuntu, for huluPLUS for example.
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Has anyone got the tuner in this to work?
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I haven't tried the tuner yet. I'm not hopeful that the tiny antenna supplied with the Arctic will work here (we have the mountains of the Angeles National Forest Park to contend with). I'll give it a try as soon as I get a chance and report back. I do have a Terk HDTVa which works quite well, with some exceptions. I'll use that if I have to.
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Well this thing supports OpenGL 3.2, so you guys must not have hardware accel enabled. I've put up a tutorial here for Myth, which may also work for XBMC, IF XBMC supports VAAPI.

The default hardware acceleration for the dedicated OpenELEC Arctic build seems to be XVBA. It is enabled by default.

If using XMBC added to Ubuntu, or similar, as a desktop, then VAAPI is available (as is VDPAU, which I believe is supposed to be disabled for this ATI graphics card, but may be enabled by default after installation).
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I am new to both XBMC, Linux and OpenELEC. I purchased the barebones Arctic unit and it arrived today. I got the memory installed, the install stick created and my USB drive loaded and it booted in to OpenELEC on the first try.

I've used the GUI to set a static IP of 192.168.1.128 on my network and it is showing connected. My trouble is in adding shares. I am trying to connect to my unraid server that is on my network at 192.168.1.126. Using the GUI and searching for NFS shares it finds that IP address. My media is stored in a share on the unraid server called "media" I've tried adding files with the path nfs://192.168.1.126/media and get a message "unable to connect"

I tried following the wiki directions for adding nfs shares by editing the config file which says to navigate to the IP address of the openelec box in a PC browser window. It is not found.

So, I'm thinking there is an issue with the connection or that method is not available in RC5/Frodo which is what I am running.

I can ping the openelec box from a command prompt in windows. I was also able to add a SMB share on my windows PC, but that is not where I want to pull my media from in the long run.

Any help would be appreciated.

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I've used the GUI to set a static IP of 192.168.1.128 on my network and it is showing connected. My trouble is in adding shares. I am trying to connect to my unraid server that is on my network at 192.168.1.126. Using the GUI and searching for NFS shares it finds that IP address. My media is stored in a share on the unraid server called "media" I've tried adding files with the path nfs://192.168.1.126/media and get a message "unable to connect"

Path should be nfs://192.168.1.126:/media

Also, when looking for shares from OE note that it automounts / autoshares attached drives, but I believe the default share is SMB under //media/
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Path should be nfs://192.168.1.126:/media

Also, when looking for shares from OE note that it automounts / autoshares attached drives, but I believe the default share is SMB under //media/

Strange. When I add the extra colon you show there it appears, but when I click OK it removes it and still can't find the share, "unable to connect" If I go back in to edit the path, the colon is still there.

I'm not sure what you mean by the default share.

I've set the NFS sharing of my media user share in unraid to share with my openelec box by IP address specifically, found that info at the unraid wiki.

\\tower\media\ is how I can bring it up in my windows browser and looks like this:

Index of \\tower\media\
Name Size Date Modified
[parent directory]
MOVIES/ 1/13/13 7:01:05 PM
Music/ 2/2/13 5:20:52 PM
Pictures/ 1/14/13 9:29:45 AM
TV SHOWS/ 2/12/13 9:44:03 AM


By adding the share with the openelec IP address I can now see withing 192.168.1.126 the share /mnt/user/media, but when selecting it it still fails to connect.

Thanks for trying to help. Anything else you can think of?

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Ok, somehow my openelec box reverted back to DHCP IP address of 192.168.1.156 and I can now open the config folders.

my media is stored on an unraid box at 192.168.1.126 with the share called media:

Index of \\tower\media\
Name Size Date Modified
[parent directory]
MOVIES/ 1/13/13 7:01:05 PM
Music/ 2/2/13 5:20:52 PM
Pictures/ 1/14/13 9:29:45 AM
TV SHOWS/ 2/12/13 9:44:03 AM


I want to be able to access all of these sub folders found in media.

I am a little confused by the wiki instructions for adding an automatic nfs share:

Open the file with a UNIX compliant text editor like | Textpad. Windows' built-in editors like Notepad and Wordpad may cause problems, so don't use them.
And copy the following code into the file:
#!/bin/sh
(sleep 30; \
COMMAND_THAT_RUNS; \
)&
if you want to mount a nfs (Version 4) share replace COMMAND_THAT_RUNS with the following, substituting the ip and mountpoints by your own.
mount -t nfs 10.0.0.101:/storage01 /storage/mount -o nolock;


Can anyone give the syntax needed for this file to mount my media share?

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I haven't tried the tuner yet. I'm not hopeful that the tiny antenna supplied with the Arctic will work here (we have the mountains of the Angeles National Forest Park to contend with). I'll give it a try as soon as I get a chance and report back. I do have a Terk HDTVa which works quite well, with some exceptions. I'll use that if I have to.
Ideally, I'd want to know not just how well it works as a tuner (OTA and clear QAM cable) but also in WMC.
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Well, I guess SMB was the way to go.

smb:\\192.168.1.126\media\MOVIES and \TV and \Music all worked like a charm. I haven't done any extensive testing but multiple .mkv lossless rips played video without issue, currently not connected for audio.

Thanks so much, I guess when it didn't find any smb shares besides those on my windows PC that it would be best to go nfs.

Now, is there a simple way to make these the default locations the xbmc looks for TV, MOVIES and Music? When I added them it made new entries in the folders list, the ones that are there (I guess there for local storage of which I have none) are still there and empty. I'm trying to streamline this as much as possible so that my family can use it super easily (trying to replace a Dune that has been hit or miss).

Thanks so much.

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I'm not sure what you mean by the default share.

I was referring to the way OpenELEC shares the drive inside the arctic mc001-e on your network

For the library, after you add videos you shouldn't need to go back through the shares/folders view anymore. Depending on the skin, you should be able to just view "Movies" or "TV Shows" from the main menu. http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Video_library/Adding_media_sources
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Cool. Thanks again for your help and patience. Now that the shares are taken care of the rest is just learning the basics of XBMC.

Really like this unit. Menus seem snappy and it boots in about 20-25 seconds via USB.

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Ideally, I'd want to know not just how well it works as a tuner (OTA and clear QAM cable) but also in WMC.
Unfortunately, my first attempt has not been successful. I can tell you, however:

  • Do not install the MediaPortal add on, ever! I can't get rid of it. It won't uninstall. I can disable it, but it's causing problems. I've never heard of a program Linux could not get rid off yet, but this one seems to be the first for me. It acts like it's gone, but as soon as I reboot, it is not only back, but it has also enabled itself, and starts throwing off disconnection error messages. The best I can do so far is to just disable it, but not uninstall it. I wish I knew how to use a Terminal for a Command Line instruction to remove this, but I don't know where OpenELEC hides the Terminal emulator, if it's even there at all. In the meantime, I don't think I can test any further for tuner compatibility and live television services. I may have to completely reinstall OpenELEC to fix this if I can't find a simpler way to rid me of the pestilence.
  • There are a lot of freely available cable channel feeds. I think they may be part of the BlueCop repository, but I'm not sure. I have dozens of free cable channels with no commercials, and SD quality that seems equivalent to the 720p quality huluPLUS claims to provide (this is enabled with BlueCop, which also offers Amazon Prime). This level of SD service would probably be equivalent to, or better than, the $30/month minimum subscription for basic cable available at that price only when bundled especially since it can be paused at will, just as if it were a DVR/PVR.
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Are you turning DVR off in the main menu before uninstalling the add on?
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Sorry for dropping off the radar! I don't think DVR (or PVR) was enabled before I wanted to try the tuner. I got an error message telling me I had to enable at least one PVR service when I enabled Live TV in the settings, so I ended up with two (after the first one didn't work). It turns out that the inability to uninstall is not limited to MediaPortal, since trying to uninstall Njoy delivers the same result. Both can be disabled, but attempts to uninstall simply mean that either PVR add-on is enabled, but never removed. Njoy Digital are official partners with OpenELEC, so it would seem doubtful that any other PVR service might be expected to work better.

I just saw the automatic update to the new 3.0.0 version today with no change in behaviour, but from reading elsewhere, it would seem that there might be an issue with drivers for this ATSC tuner in North America that has yet to be resolved. For now, I have disabled Live TV until I can find a solution.

http://www.openelec.tv/forum/41-supported-hardware/62526-arctic-mc001-tv-tuner-support?limitstart=0
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