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Reading all these comments about the best audio systems is fascinating.
All the experienced audiophiles that gave their opinions and
choices for the best loudspeakers is very interesting as well.
But with all the examples given, there is none that can compare to this
system, and to this day there has not been an improvement or a
loudspeaker that can equal the performance of the following. The performance of the Hill Plasmatronics was unequaled by any other plasma transducer ever made available to the public. It has the best bandwidth, linearity, phase and impulse response. It was this design that separated the men from the boys! This was in 1978 and this still is a transducer
that outperforms them all. Listening to this extraordinary transducer is an
education, and once heard, one can hear the distortions that are still in
todays best transducers. This transducer was restored and combined
with Apogee Scintillas and stages for the lower end of the frequency range.
The Hill Plasma goes down to 700 hz, which has never been done before,
and because of safety concerns and todays laws can no longer be
manufactured and sold. Below 25 hz, two Rotary subs are added for
a system that is just plain awesome!!

so i guess it sounds good then?
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I own it. Even after all of these years, I still dig my own room. But to me, it's less about the gear and more about the room.

I feel the same as you do, and it sure feels good.

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Interesting thead. I can see that NIN74 has mentioned the speakers I own. I must say that i68es-s is everything I want from a speaker. I wish everyone can find the perfect speaker for them. To know what one want is hard enough. And to find that thing even harder!

Good luck on your quest! Mine has found its end.
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Reading all these comments about the best audio systems is fascinating.
All the experienced audiophiles that gave their opinions and
choices for the best loudspeakers is very interesting as well.
But with all the examples given, there is none that can compare to this
system, and to this day there has not been an improvement or a
loudspeaker that can equal the performance of the following. The performance of the Hill Plasmatronics was unequaled by any other plasma transducer ever made available to the public. It has the best bandwidth, linearity, phase and impulse response. It was this design that separated the men from the boys! This was in 1978 and this still is a transducer
that outperforms them all. Listening to this extraordinary transducer is an
education, and once heard, one can hear the distortions that are still in
todays best transducers. This transducer was restored and combined
with Apogee Scintillas and stages for the lower end of the frequency range.
The Hill Plasma goes down to 700 hz, which has never been done before,
and because of safety concerns and todays laws can no longer be
manufactured and sold. Below 25 hz, two Rotary subs are added for
a system that is just plain awesome!!

Looking at what is shown of the room, I would guess that the most brilliant transducer in the world would sound like poop as it would be absolutely inundated in the poor room acoustics. And speaking of brilliant transducers, haphazardly throwing a few of them together doesn't create a brilliant speaker, and haphazardly sure seems to fit what is shown. The power response must be absolutely horrid.

Not to be overly judgmental. There are some very very fine looking systems and speakers all throughout this thread. But for something claiming to be the pinnacle of sound for half a century, this looks to be a seriously lacking implementation.

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You are absolutely correct in your statement of acoustical treatment and
imaging and soundstage of the system, but have you ever heard the
Hill Plasma transducer. This is by far the most accurate transducer
ever built as far as transients, low distortion and frequency response.

This system is not mine, and the room has terrible acoustics. I have
said that acoustics play a very large role in sound reproduction, but the guy
who put this system together did not believe me when I told him.

But even in this situation one heard the great clarity and quality of the
plasma transducer. I wish I could have heard this plasma transducer
in my room, which I spent many years with the acoustics.

My system which combines Martin Logan Summits with Magneplanar
Tympani IV bass panels and the Rotary woofer has great coherence,
transparency and with the acoustics of the room, depth and a very
large sound-stage.
LL
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Wasn't that the speaker that almost killed Nelson Pass?

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco
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Wasn't that the speaker that almost killed Nelson Pass?


The "ion cloud loudspeaker" used photocopy
machine ionizing nichrome wire strung in a flat
array a bit like a window screen, but with more
space between the wires, and charged to a variable
DC potential of about 10 KV.
This screen developed a layer of ionized air, and was
enclosed between two stators, much like an electrostatic
speaker, except that instead of a charged plastic
diaphragm,
you had a charged semi-flat layer of gas, and you could
push-pull it with high AC voltages on the stators.
It worked fairly well, and gave new meaning to the word
"transparency".
It also had several flaws, one of which did result in a
trip to the local emergency room with breathing problems
similar to those sometimes experienced by arc welders and
caused by extended exposure to ozone.
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Thanks for the comments, guys. This is the last article before the event in a few weeks. This details why I chose these particular components above all others:

http://ultraaudio.com/index.php?opti...nion&Itemid=27

In case you're wondering, the Magico Q7s will be forklifted through an engineered opening in my second-story listening-room floor. This is a crazy hobby.

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On looks alone and driver configuration, it seems Magico has finally made a speaker with decent slam and bass. Every Magico speaker I heard at Music Lovers Audio in Berkeley, Ca. were soulless to me. Magico speakers are too sterile and have a razor like sound to them and gets very fatiguing to me. Can't fault their build Q though.
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Looking at what is shown of the room, .....

Exactly

Perhaps a worlds most optimum room

We're certainly very adept at hearing past a rooms colorations, however a wonderfully sounding room is the holy grail,.....


(w/a ton of superb gear!)
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Magico speakers are too sterile and have a razor like sound to them and gets very fatiguing to me.

Thank god, I thought I was the only one who felt that way too.

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There's nothing like a big active near-field studio monitor system that's relatively flat after being calibrated to the room. Gobs of headroom...effortless...you-are-there musical experience that you can listen to hour after hour with no fatigue. There are too many variables in passive systems -- even ones with very very expensive ingredients -- to guarantee a similar happy outcome.
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There's nothing like a big active near-field studio monitor system that's relatively flat after being calibrated to the room. Gobs of headroom...effortless...you-are-there musical experience that you can listen to hour after hour with no fatigue. There are too many variables in passive systems -- even ones with very very expensive ingredients -- to guarantee a similar happy outcome.

Genelec 1038 active three way studio monitors, dCS Scarlatti transport, dac, and master clock, Nordost Valhalla spdif, clock cables and power cords, Odin xlr to xlr from dac to monitors(volume control is in the digital domain in the dac, which has an output impedance of 5 ohms, no pre amp needed) side chain with Gotham gac3 aes ebu feedng z-systems digital eq, Nordost Quantum and Q block power distro, Judicious room treatment to yield significant reflection free zone, and well behaved Schroeders (win mls measurement system), variable apature helmholtz resonator tuned to most problematic room resonance.

Oh,
Millenia Media Library Of Congress Phono pre amp (they built 12 for the LOC and one for me), Notttingham Innerspace,turntable and arm, Dynavector 10 X cartridge

'lebenty million man hours moving and tweaking

The room vanishes, making the acoustical treatment (about $2k) more important than the $150K in gear

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Here you go guys!

http://www.soundstageglobal.com/inde...=86&Itemid=285

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Wow! Jeff, nice work! Would love to hear that system some day!
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The end . . .

http://www.soundstageultra.com/index...rtain-on-twbas

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