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post #1 of 17 Old 10-10-2009, 11:04 PM - Thread Starter
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I have recently built a Screen Research CH screen for a client and it is our first AT screen besides the Stewart Microperfs.
I have to say the building the SR seemed like a convaluted way to build a screen. We wound up cracking and breaking several of the snap in pieces since they are made out of hard plastic.

I have a hard time justifying doing any more of these screens after it took me and another really experienced person 5 hours to finally get this screen on the wall. And after talking to tech support, they told me that I have to figure out a way to keep the screen on the wall! I drilled holes in all 4 corners in the metal brackets to hold the mount to the wall.

The only other option, to my knowledge, is the SMX. Any one have any experience with both or either to voice thier opinions?
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Take a look at Screen Excellence (especially their EN4K).

http://www.screenexcellence.com


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Thanks for the responses but I was looking for experiences building other screens compared to the SR.
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Hi Ifor,

You can build a Screen Excellence fixed frame and install the fabric and black backing with one man in less than 30 mins.

On the Screen Excellence web pages you will find tutorial videos showing the construction of the TAM2 (motorised side masking) and Vista curve (curved fixed frame) that make the process clear.

Warning - it is my mug in the videos!

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The SMX is incredible simple as well to put together, and the fit and finish is second to none.

Being built in the US it is easier to support I would think. Image-wise and musically it is second to none. The impression of over 800 professionals with the Barco Superkontrast at CEDIA was overwhelmingly positive.
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The SMX is incredible simple as well to put together, and the fit and finish is second to none.

Being built in the US it is easier to support I would think. Image-wise and musically it is second to none. The impression of over 800 professionals with the Barco Superkontrast at CEDIA was overwhelmingly positive.

Is their masking system really darker than competition? That's what they argue in the website.
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By a huge difference both against brand A and Brand B.
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SMX builds some serious high quality frames and an excellent material.

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Is their masking system really darker than competition? That's what they argue in the website.

Check out the SMX video from CEDIA, you can see the materials in the demo, and compared to some of the competition.

http://htrising.com/tag/smx/

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The SMX is incredible simple as well to put together, and the fit and finish is second to none.

Being built in the US it is easier to support I would think. Image-wise and musically it is second to none. The impression of over 800 professionals with the Barco Superkontrast at CEDIA was overwhelmingly positive.

Did you get a chance to assess their off-axis viewing? They make some pretty serious claims in their website
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I had a screen research screen and recently put up a screen excellence screen. The fabrics were the driver for me plus I wanted a bigger screen.

I agree the screen research installation was painful. I liked the way the screen excellence goes together much better and the way the fabrick is held in place seems like a very good idea.
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The SMX is incredible simple as well to put together, and the fit and finish is second to none.

Being built in the US it is easier to support I would think. Image-wise and musically it is second to none. The impression of over 800 professionals with the Barco Superkontrast at CEDIA was overwhelmingly positive.

Couldn't agree more. Ruben does it right in terms of support, simplicity, and performance.

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Did you get a chance to assess their off-axis viewing? They make some pretty serious claims in their website

I saw the confidential report on their original surface comissioned by a Movie Chain, it had the widest off axis resonse in the group. I have also seen the 2k4k material and it is equally wide.
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I will agree that the Screen Research system for putting their screens together seems a bit off the beaten path, but I didn't have any difficulty putting together any of their screens and I have even dealt with some of their hardest combinations - 4 way masking, black backing and multiple back braces for support.

My biggest issue with SR has been their system for mounting to the wall, which would have been an issue if I had wall mounted any of them.

I do think there are better ways to put together a screen, but maybe I am in the minority in not having much difficulty putting the SR units together.
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I have an SMX Pro-Curv -- and it was very straight forward to put together. It just screams quality and is put together very very well.

Additionally, Ruben's CS/support is second to none.

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Any comments here on what you lose PQ wise using an AT screen?

I've got a Stewart Studiotek at the moment, but want to put some acoustic absorption behind the screen -- the 'Tek is as sonically reflective as a painted wall. My other option is to slide an absorbative curtain in front of the screen for music listening, but that's less than ideal for several reasons.
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