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post #151 of 174 Old 05-06-2010, 04:59 PM
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What I am most curious about is if there is a fee or cost per movie rental beyond the monthly fee? Or for that matter if there is a cost associated with keeping it on your hard drive? My internet service here is questionable which is why I have always stuck to snail mail blu-rays. As a result, I have no experience with the Netflix streaming thing but I was under the impression that the monthly fee was all you were out regardless of the amount of movie streams you viewed.

Now if the movies on here are the raw bd masters and not the blu-ray encodes you would find on the disc I would have to wonder if they may not be as cleaned up or color corrected as you might find for a blu-ray disc release. Would you have a more enjoyable picture watching the blu-ray in that case? Either way I'm very interested to get out of the snail mail rental business.
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Rentals are supposed to be about what other services charge, $3-6, and IIRC you've got 24-48hrs to view it. There was mention (I think it was in the Satelliteguys broadcast/interview) that they were looking into working out a way to have re-watches cost a fraction of the original rental.

There's supposed to be a way to purchase movies too.

As far as "on the hard drive" this is something I've been very curious about. Near as I can tell, there's no fee for having a movie on your HDD, you're charged when you start watching it. The reason being that anything you watch has to be pre-feched off the satellite stream, so your HDD will I guess always be full of both requested and other movies.

Even the "flagship" configuration, which is 4TB, you run out of space very, very fast even with "only" Blu-ray quality files. 4TB will probably max out at about 160 movies (figuring ~25GB/movie). If the system is prefeching the new releases each week, it takes probably less than a month before stuff has to get booted off.

So I've got some serious questions about space management, like can I queue specific movies I want to see ahead of time to make sure they get downloaded/recorded/captured when initially broadcast? What happens if my HDD is full? What if for some reason I don't catch a movie the first broadcast, how long do I have to wait for it to be sent again?

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Ahh see here is where the true cost comes in to play (hence my frist posting in the high end forum). If you do get unlimited 720p streams for $10 dollars a month with netflix, you are getting a heck of a value for your dollar if you are not a videophile. Now with this, say you watch on average 4 movies a week at a low ball $3 dollars per viewing, in addition to your $9.95 dollar a month network fee. Your really going to be in the $60 dollars a month ballpark with this service.

So considering the price disparity between this and Netflix, by settling for 720p or snail mail makes Netflix a service that really catering to a completely different target audience. XstreamHD seems to be positioning themselves to go head to head with Apple tv and the likes of Vudu (I believe now acquired by Wal Mart). It was my understanding that Vudu was the service most favorable to the high def crowd. The price and cost structure here is very similar to Vudu, so these guys better be looking at picture and audio quality and perhaps even future 3d releases to differentiate themselves and gain a competitive edge in this growing market. Unless they are banking on stellar audio/video performance for just the high end guys; then at 6$ bucks a movie or more, they could find themselves with very little market share, depending on what Vudu or other players do. Its funny you see very little talk about movie rental pricing on the site yet, just the "five free rentals at $25 dollars" on the sign up page.
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Yes, I am also surprised that so close to launch date there is no catalog of movies, pricing etc. I makes one wonder if they have content issues.
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BTW, I asked customer service via email about the satellite dish and this is what I got back today:

Me: Do you need a satellite dish to receive your programming?

Answer: Yes, you will need an XStreamHD satellite dish (in addition to any other satellite dishes you may have in place, such as DirecTV, DISH Network, etc.) to receive our service.

Me: OK, how can I get one? There doesn't seem to be a way of buying one on your site and neither of your packages includes one.

Answer: We are actually in the middle of finalizing a satellite installation partnership, after which, we will be able to release installation options and pricing. Please stay tuned to our email list and website, as we should be announcing this deal in the coming weeks.
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Well my wife just busted me in this area of the forum. :-P She says "dude, you crank the blu-rays through the mail pretty darn fast, you usually have a stack of three waiting for you when you get home". She isn't impressed by the on demand aspects of it versus the cost. I think I may still give it a chance if some of you guys as early adopters report an increase in quality over BD. I'll be eagerly lurking for some reports.
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This is not necessarily bad news if you can sign up for X Stream alone is it?

They had to partner with some major provider for satellite access

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But Xstream was all about Video quality, and content neither of which they have....
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But Xstream was all about Video quality, and content neither of which they have....

my take on this is they are leasing satellite capacity and are not tied to Dish content or quality: I hope that is the case

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I hope that is the case

Interesting watching this unfold, good to see them still making effort. All Satellite companies are starved for bandwidth. As more HD content becomes available the more they turn up the compression knob to make more room. I hope we see quality exceeding current broadcast but if they allow us to record and dump the content to our hard drives that will be a treat.
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They've been going to use/using AMC-16 since the beginning.

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XStreamHD is using satellite capacity from the EchoStar-leased AMC-16 satellite that is centrally located at 85 degrees west longitude. This enables XStreamHD to offer exceptional coverage across North America. Under the terms of the agreement, XStreamHD will increase its capacity on the AMC-16 satellite as the company's transport needs grow over time.

I'm at a loss for what this announcement changes. Of course that's both good and bad. Good in that they haven't changed their product parameters. Bad in that it's another in a long line of "announcements" that aren't content agreements of product shipments.

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I'll continue my subscription to Netflix. The price is right, the quality is known, the content is excellent.

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I hope XstreamHD is going to offer something other that just the same as NetFlix or Blockbuster via satellite. I would only want to download what I wanted to see and not just what they want to fill up my hard drive. Sure would like to hear when they are going to start shipping hardware and what are the salient features that would capture my interest.
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XStreamHD(TM) Signs Distribution Agreement With Lionsgate® to Digitally Deliver the Latest Full HD Movies to Consumers

XStreamHD Offers Consumers the Ultimate Convenience with Access to Thousands of Cinema-Class Quality Titles in the Comfort of Their Homes


MCLEAN, Va. and SANTA MONICA, Calif., July 14 /PRNewswire/ -- XStreamHD, an emerging leader in the delivery and distribution of Full HD entertainment directly to the home, announced that it has entered into a long-term Electronic Sell-Thru and Video-on-Demand home entertainment distribution agreement with Lionsgate (NYSE:LGF) , the leading next generation studio and distributor of motion pictures. The agreement will enable XStreamHD to offer its customers the ability to digitally purchase or rent, the latest HD releases from Lionsgate, as well as provide access to Lionsgate's content library of over 12,000 titles.

XStreamHD's ground-breaking whole-home HD entertainment system delivers Full 1080p HD video and up to 7.1 channels of lossless DTS-HD Master Audio(TM) directly to the home via satellite, enabling consumers to enjoy the very latest entertainment, in uncompromised Full HD, exceeding the quality of physical media. Additionally, every XStreamHD customer has exclusive multi-room access to Pre-Fetched Entertainment (PFE), which provides unparalleled convenience by automatically delivering just-released HD entertainment directly to each user's personal library based upon their individual user preferences and advance title selections.

"Our partnership with XStreamHD presents us with a new opportunity to distribute our content in the digital marketplace," said Lionsgate Executive Vice President of Distribution and Digital Jon Ferro. "Our decision to distribute our titles through XStreamHD reflects our commitment to offer consumers the highest quality home entertainment and access to our enormous library of titles."

"We are excited to provide our customers with access to Full HD digital cinema, on the DVD release date, from the Lionsgate library of daring, original and high quality titles," stated George Gonzalez, president and CEO of XStreamHD. "Our customers will enjoy unparalleled digital quality, access and convenience to HD entertainment without the hassles associated with slow Internet downloads or limited retailer inventory."

Consumers can pre-order either XStreamHD's FAST Start or PRO Start packages to receive priority shipment of the first release systems at www.XStreamHD.com. The XStreamHD FAST Start package includes one HD Media Server with 1TB storage, one HD Media Receiver, RF One Remote Control, and all of the accessories, including one 3m High-Speed Cat2 certified HDMI cable and two 3m Cat5e Ethernet cables. The PRO Start package includes all of above plus customers will receive an upgraded HD PRO Media Receiver, which replaces the HD Media Receiver. The FAST Start package is priced at only $399 while the Pro Start package will be offered for $499. 2TB and 4TB storage configurations are also available with both starter packages.


About XStreamHD

XStreamHD is leading the HD revolution, setting a new standard for the delivery and distribution of Full HD entertainment throughout the home. XStreamHD provides the first-ever transport network to deliver high-definition movies and music directly to the home via satellite - offering Full HD (1080p) video and up to 7.1 channels of lossless audio. With XStreamHD, consumers can build a customized, unique, and unparalleled in-home entertainment network and enjoy the content they want most including movies, music, electronic games, broadcast HDTV, and more--when it's most convenient, anywhere in the home, and at the quality today's home theaters were designed to support. XStreamHD is based in McLean, Virginia. For more information, visit www.XStreamHD.com.


About Lionsgate

Lionsgate (NYSE:LGF) is the leading next generation studio with a strong and diversified presence in the production and distribution of motion pictures, television programming, home entertainment, family entertainment, video-on-demand and digitally delivered content. The Company has built a strong television presence in production of prime time cable and broadcast network series, distribution and syndication of programming through Debmar-Mercury and an array of channel assets. Lionsgate currently has nearly 20 shows on 10 different networks spanning its prime time production, distribution and syndication businesses, including such critically-acclaimed hits as "Mad Men," "Weeds" and "Nurse Jackie" along with new series such as "Blue Mountain State" and the syndication successes "Tyler Perry's House of Payne," its spinoff "Meet the Browns" and "The Wendy Williams Show."

Its feature film business has generated such recent hits as Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too?, the action film Kick-Ass, which opened at #1 at the North American box office and the critically-acclaimed Precious, which has garnered nearly $50 million at the North American box office and won two Academy Awards®. The Company's home entertainment business has grown to more than 7% market share and is an industry leader in box office-to-DVD revenue conversion rate. Lionsgate handles a prestigious and prolific library of approximately 12,000 motion picture and television titles that is an important source of recurring revenue and serves as the foundation for the growth of the Company's core businesses. The Lionsgate brand remains synonymous with original, daring, quality entertainment in markets around the world.

Source: XStreamHD
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That's a good start - now for some major studios.

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Popular Science had a section on it. They had pricing and everthing claiming reduced compression issues.It looked like they are available now based on that article.

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That's a good start - now for some major studios.

Indeed, hopefully this is the first of many announcements.

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Indeed, hopefully this is the first of many announcements.

One would of thought that before contracting for equipment, leasing satellite space, etc. they would of tied up studio agreements first. Otherwise all everything else would be worthless. Hopefully it is not going to be a studio announcement once a month!
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Even once a month would be better than just once.

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Did they show up at CES?
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Did they show up at CES?

Nope but penthouse 3d did.
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You made wrong turn and went to AVN awards?
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You made wrong turn and went to AVN awards?


How do you figure that would be a wrong turn?

Don't you see the man's big...err smiley in that post!

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