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I have five Aerial 7ts, plus 2 JL Audio f212 subs.

I know you have two Aerial 20ts and several Aerial subs. What are your center and surround speakers?
CC5 and 4x SR3s
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Thanks.

So if you were in my position and listen to mainly movies and tv 99 % multichannel content! would you still add a gen 8 or should I spend the money else where.
I tend to agree that without a lot of music listening, the Gen VIII is of lesser value. I absolutely love mine for music. It's the best sound I have ever had. It will add dynamics to your system like nothing else I have heard.

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If you have a chance, post some pics. I remember the last pics you posted! Awesome great at that time as well.

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I believe Gary Reber (Widescreen Review) now has a IV in his possession. Perhaps his magazine will run an equipment review of this preamplifier/processor/equalizer.
Awesome! He will most certainly review it. That magazine is really what first directed me to try the Casablanca.

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I just have an observation....
I subscribe to all the audio magazines..and just opened one with the 'Top' components in it...
They list Bryston, Meridian, Krell..etc...but no Theta! No in the A, B, C or D List!
I have noticed this time and time again...no Casablanca, or Dreadnaught..nothing.
It's like Theta doesn't exist! WHY?
I would like to see the new Prometheus amps reviewed by Stereophile. Considering, what these amps represent in the advancement of class D, I think it's almost an obligation to have them reviewed. The last review of the Casablanca that was in the Absolute Sound was way back when the Six Shooter was relevant.

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If you have a chance, post some pics. I remember the last pics you posted! Awesome great at that time as well.
Thanks, I did post pictures in the Aerial thread few weeks ago. See here.
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I use GenVIII also for the Center channel and thereĀ“s no turning back...
A true "assault" on the state of the art. Congrats; I am green with envy :-).

Thanks for the pics. Your home theater looks *fantastic*, really. Clean, elegant, and menacing with those side facing subwoofers; very beautiful to my eyes!

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I would like to see the new Prometheus amps reviewed by Stereophile. Considering, what these amps represent in the advancement of class D, I think it's almost an obligation to have them reviewed. The last review of the Casablanca that was in the Absolute Sound was way back when the Six Shooter was relevant.
We agree. Review is already well underway.

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Does the iRule already have a library with all the RS232 for the CB available in its library ?
The release notes for iRule version 4 looks quite nice by the way. Seems almost "everything" should bee possible now.

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This is a very good point and the answer is no, not in my opinion. Timbre matching for the front 3 of a video system, at least to my ears and of course IMHO, is at a gross ("macro") level, whereas the nutty audiophilia differences, that come with the Gen VIII, tend to be at a minute level, yet equally significant, for 2 channel music audio. (Except for the bass, which is just out of this world for any Theta stand alone DAC.)

In my own experience: I happen to have 2 center speakers that I alternate, Thiel MCS vs. Aerial CC5, as far as timbre matching for smooth panning, etc., it has been extremely hard for me to tell between when the Aerial CC5 is there vs. Thiel MCS. Timbre matching is not an easy issue: even within a speaker line, I've found that my small Thiel speaker has different timbre than my Thiel tower, and the old Thiel sounds different than the new Thiel. Thankfully, my ears do not detect these differences well.

And yes I did make a distinction between audio vs. video. *Not* to say at all that I am right, just how I do it: my standard when evaluate 2 channel audio (image focus, front soundstage layers, transparency) is at a totally different level, and in many ways much more stringent, than video. The picture of a video system tends to overwhelm the minute differences that are so important in an audiophilia evaluation. Taking us back to your original question, and my answer: IMHO, no, Gen VIII for those so lucky is not going to hurt anything!

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I would like to see the new Prometheus amps reviewed by Stereophile. Considering, what these amps represent in the advancement of class D, I think it's almost an obligation to have them reviewed. The last review of the Casablanca that was in the Absolute Sound was way back when the Six Shooter was relevant.
I would like to see them do a head-to-head comparison of them versus the Mola Mola. It would be very interesting for those with linear PSU biases...

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Thanks, I did post pictures in the Aerial thread few weeks ago. See here.
Interesting place to put the subs. In a small room it's very interesting to place the sub(s) right next to our just behind the listening position. I moved my Rel Stentor II to directly behind my listening couch. The result was simply awesome.

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We agree. Review is already well underway.

Jeff
Jeff, please ensure there's good coverage of the rationale for the PSU, any of the options Theta elected to take from the Hypex's modules standard options list or any other "custom' elements requested by Theta. The usual 'marketing-wishy-washy-hyperbole' reviews aren't worth the paper they occupy. Get into the detail, the drivers of design choices and it will have value.

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Interesting place to put the subs. In a small room it's very interesting to place the sub(s) right next to our just behind the listening position. I moved my Rel Stentor II to directly behind my listening couch. The result was simply awesome.
I have two subs in the rear also, on the sides, behind each corner of the couch.
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Reporting a (quick) sonic comparison between Crossover choices and roll-off rate when applied to the main speakers. I prefer to run my main LR Thiel towers full range, but some of these blockbusters such as Gravity, Super 8, and recently Serenity, are threatening to send my Thiel woofers into orbit :-), so I started to play around with crossover type and the roll off rate. Below are the 2 that I chose to compare, arbitrarily. I found the result interesting; keep in mind that this is for LR main speakers, NOT the surrounds.

1. Phase Perfect, low pass at 40 hz, 6 dB per octave roll off.
2. Linkwitz Riley, low pass at 40 hz, 24 dB per octave roll off.

My first attempt was Phase Perfect at 6 dB roll off. I immediately could hear that there is an additional warm/full character to the front soundstage when I AB switched between LR full range and LR crossover'ed with Phase Perfect 6 dB. It took a while for me to identify what was going on with the sound, but basically there is a subjective increase in mid and upper bass, that in turn decreases clarity and transparency of the front soundstage. The atmospheric "air" space around actor's voice (not in my head :-)) seems cut off.
Switching to Linkwitz Riley at 24 dB roll off, the muddiness of front soundstage and voice is much improved, to the point that it was hard for me to tell when AB switching between full range and crossover at 40 hz. I preferred this faster roll-off, by far!

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Can, you need to upgrade...send it in tomorrow!

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Thanks, I did post pictures in the Aerial thread few weeks ago. See here.
I like your layout. It's very elegant. It seems all your arrangements are. Looking at it made me also realize that Dirac live gives you more freedom to place speakers closer to boundaries. You and lose a lot of your space achieving good sound if you have to be so far away from boundaries as in the past.

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Does the iRule already have a library with all the RS232 for the CB available in its library ?
The release notes for iRule version 4 looks quite nice by the way. Seems almost "everything" should bee possible now.
Yes. If you see something that you want that is not there, let me know. It is possible to control almost every parameter of the CB. There is quite a bit of feedback there as well for status. I did most of the stuff there and others copied it and added some more.

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I like our layout. It's very elegant. It seems all your arrangements are. Looking at it made me also realize that Dirac live also give you more freedom to place speakers closer to boundaries. You and lose a lot of your space achieving good sound if you have to be so far away from boundaries as in the past.
Thank you, and yes, Aerial 20T in this position with a huge screen in middle was simply not possible before Dirac Live.
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We agree. Review is already well underway.

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I am happy to hear this. Can you give us some more information on the Interpid AV? I saw the announcement on Facebook today.

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Intrepid AV is the Theta Digital distributor for Norway. I posted a copy of an ad they are running. They also distribute Aerial.

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