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I keep looking for write ups about it. Haven't found anything yet.

It does say now shipping on the Theta site. But I haven't been notified yet.
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Their web has been updated ahead of time to reflect the start of shipping next Monday 6-1-15.
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Does anyone have a preference to using spades or banana's on the Dreadnaught? I'm using banana's now on this dread II, and will get upgrading to the Dread D later. I'm investing in new speaker wire, and before I got them terminated I wanted to ask
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Here is some info from "THE SHOW"
The Theta Room had the following gear.

Electronics:
Casablanca IV w/Extreme D-3 DACs
PC Music Server running J-River
Compli Blu 3D
Dreadnaught D
Prometheus x 2

Speakers:
Wilson Sabrina

Here are some pics...enjoy



Later
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Here is some info from "THE SHOW"
The Theta Room had the following gear.

Electronics:
Casablanca IV w/Extreme D-3 DACs
PC Music Server running J-River
Compli Blu 3D
Dreadnaught D
Prometheus x 2

Speakers:
Wilson Sabrina

Here are some pics...enjoy



Later
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Zooming into the Casablanca it looks like the Display has a red DTS:X logo already.
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Does anyone have a preference to using spades or banana's on the Dreadnaught? I'm using banana's now on this dread II, and will get upgrading to the Dread D later. I'm investing in new speaker wire, and before I got them terminated I wanted to ask
Ask the cable company that you are buying from what they recommend - though I suspect they will recommend spades. Its rare to see speaker wire for us "audiophiles" terminated with bananas. What you want is what terminator/connector will give you the best contact for the audio signal to pass from cable to amp and speaker binding posts.

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Save your money, 3D-audio "trinity" is coming to Casablanca for sure.
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Here is some info from "THE SHOW"
The Theta Room had the following gear.

Electronics:
Casablanca IV w/Extreme D-3 DACs
PC Music Server running J-River
Compli Blu 3D
Dreadnaught D
Prometheus x 2

Speakers:
Wilson Sabrina

Here are some pics...enjoy



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How did dreadnaught D sound to you?
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It made sound...

This is actually an impossible questions to answer.
It was a room that I had no experience with and speakers that I have never heard before....
So the most truthful answer I can give you is.."It made Sound"

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It made sound...

This is actually an impossible questions to answer.
It was a room that I had no experience with and speakers that I have never heard before....
So the most truthful answer I can give you is.."It made Sound"

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Well, I was not looking for a comparison between the show and your room.
I was looking for sound characteristic of amp in the that particular room in the show.
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It made sound...

This is actually an impossible questions to answer.
It was a room that I had no experience with and speakers that I have never heard before....
So the most truthful answer I can give you is.."It made Sound"

Sorry
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While I agree with the aspect of unfamiliarity, I entirely disagree with not being able to provide a subjective opinion of how it sounded overall to you. Even if I hear a system with totally unfamiliar electronics, speakers, and room, I can still have an opinion about it. "It made Sound" is not at all helpful - in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it caused some folks to cancel their order for the Dreadnaught D. Not me though - I will give it a chance at home.


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So the most truthful answer I can give you is... "It made Sound"

Ray, I had a friend who once said that years ago when describing audio gear. He's gone now, but you've resurrected that memory and a smile for a moment.
Welcome to the Theta thread. If you stick around long enough we might convert you
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While I agree with the aspect of unfamiliarity, I entirely disagree with not being able to provide a subjective opinion of how it sounded overall to you. Even if I hear a system with totally unfamiliar electronics, speakers, and room, I can still have an opinion about it. "It made Sound" is not at all helpful - in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it caused some folks to cancel their order for the Dreadnaught D. Not me though - I will give it a chance at home.


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I am sorry if my answer offended anyone, I guess a better answer would be "It sounded fine"
I can't give a realistic answer as to how the "Dreadnaught D" sounded as it was a combination of room, speakers and electronics that I was listening to.

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It made sound...

This is actually an impossible questions to answer.
It was a room that I had no experience with and speakers that I have never heard before....
So the most truthful answer I can give you is.."It made Sound"

Sorry
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Ray, agreed. You sound like a seasoned veteran of audio shows.

The speaker dominates any system's sound - it's very difficult to evaluate just the sound of preamp or amplifier. Equally important is the other major variable - the software (demo software is *everything* IMHO). In this particular case it's doubly difficult because I could not play my own CD of material that I am very familiar with.

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While I agree with the aspect of unfamiliarity, I entirely disagree with not being able to provide a subjective opinion of how it sounded overall to you. Even if I hear a system with totally unfamiliar electronics, speakers, and room, I can still have an opinion about it. "It made Sound" is not at all helpful - in fact, it wouldn't surprise me if it caused some folks to cancel their order for the Dreadnaught D. Not me though - I will give it a chance at home.
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Dave, I will give it a try but as mentioned keep in mind there are multiple variables at work here, most of all the speakers, and equally important the music material. Jeff's demo was fantastic but unfortunately I could not play my own CD, making any kind of review nearly impossible. (Playing my own music material is THE most important thing for me in evaluation any system - software makes or breaks any system, no matter the cost.)

That said, I do have some perhaps minor advantage: I am extremely familiar with the house "sound" of Wilson speaker, the house "sound" of Theta Casablanca, and the house sound of David Reich previous amp designs, at Classe (I have had a few Classe amps.).

1. Using Jeff's own audiophile quality material (Jeff is a pro and his music selection understandably is top notch.), the overall sound of the system is Häagen-Dazs® smooth in the top end, with fantastic holographic and pin point imaging (hallmarks of Wilson speaker). Wilson is a very bright speaker best used with tube gears and it is great that this solid state system makes the sound listenable.
2. Dynamics and low frequency was good but this is more character of the speakers and the room, not as much the amp. This part of the review could only be reliably done with the amp at home and for example in direct shoot-out with another amp.
3. I was able to compare this room with 2 other Wilson speaker rooms: one with tube amplification, one with Krell which is of course solid state, so I do have some idea of this amp's sound, but only certain aspect of it.

The conclusion: probably, even likely, very smooth and detailed high end (hallmark of David Reich previous Classe amp, an extremely desirable character for solid state amp ), excellent soundstage if the speakers allow it, excellent imaging if the speakers allow it. No idea of low end response, but judging from Prometheus review, Dreadnaught should have excellent dynamics and bass response. This amp I believe is going to be a winner, just like big brother Prometheus. Hope this help.

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^ I for one think it helps a bunch. Has anyone received a request for the remainder of the money for the Dreadnaught D? I haven't yet. Just curious of how they do this? Since they are supposed to start shipping tomorrow I am anxious for the invoice.
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...I can't give a realistic answer as to how the "Dreadnaught D" sounded as it was a combination of room, speakers and electronics that I was listening to.

Sorry
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I agree completely! Thanks RayJr!

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Here's my brief note: we made wonderful music during the Newport show. Imaging of the Dirac enabled CB IV with the new DAC's, Wilson Sabrina's and our amps was so good the speakers disappeared and all that was left was the music. IMO, this is exactly what all of us wanted when we embarked on this hobby. For amplification, we used a pair of Prometheus and two channels of an 8-channel production Dreadnaught D off and on. As to the sound of the new Dreadnaught, on Saturday afternoon when I changed from Prometheus to Dreadnaught D, Sanjay Durani remarked, "Thank you. I'd been craving to hear the D again."

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Here's my brief note: we made wonderful music during the Newport show. Imaging of the Dirac enabled CB IV with the new DAC's, Wilson Sabrina's and our amps was so good the speakers disappeared and all that was left was the music. IMO, this is exactly what all of us wanted when we embarked on this hobby. For amplification, we used a pair of Prometheus and two channels of an 8-channel production Dreadnaught D off and on. As to the sound of the new Dreadnaught, on Saturday afternoon when I changed from Prometheus to Dreadnaught D, Sanjay Durani remarked, "Thank you. I'd been craving to hear the D again."

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How did dreadnaught D sound to you?
I didn't hear it but isn't it using the same Ncore 1200 module as the Prometheus? If so, then I would expect it to sound exactly the same at normal volume levels. The Prometheus should do better at higher power levels as it's a monoblock design - single power supply.

I also agree that speakers and room treatment contribute immensely to the sound of a system. You need to get that right before you can really judge the subtle differences in high end amplifiers.

P.S. missed the New Port show as I had Hollywood Bowl tickets for Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett. Great live audio to be heard there! The BluRay should be good system demo material.

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I didn't hear it but isn't it using the same Ncore 1200 module as the Prometheus? If so, then I would expect it to sound exactly the same at normal volume levels. The Prometheus should do better at higher power levels as it's a monoblock design - single power supply.

I also agree that speakers and room treatment contribute immensely to the sound of a system. You need to get that right before you can really judge the subtle differences in high end amplifiers.

P.S. missed the New Port show as I had Hollywood Bowl tickets for Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett. Great live audio to be heard there! The BluRay should be good system demo material.
Yea, the Hollywood Bowl is pretty awesome. About ten years ago my wife and I saw James Taylor with the LA Philharmonic Orchestra there on the evening of July 4th. Great fireworks after, too!

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