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I notice there are some Sim2 HT5000e's hitting the used market at prices comparable to (or lower than) a new Sony VPL-VW1000. It's been a while since I saw a HT5000e but I was super-impressed at the time. I've never seen a VW1000. Assuming 3D is of no importance, which would you choose for a 128" diagonal 1.78 screen? I'm anticipating the answer is the newer Sony, but I'm not so sure. What do you think? Assume the price is the same.....
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Well. I know both Art and I have been able to directly compare the 5000e to the Sony 1000. I'm keeping my 5000e as my main theatre PJ, but I also liked the Sony enough to add it to my kids media room (probably premature give they are 18 mos, but they already like the Disney stuff, and the educational BR we have as well).

I'm also considering using it in the main theatre below the 5000e, but for 3D only, and I may do that by picking up a second 1000. The screen size you mention would work well with the Sony IMO.

As far as quality of the image, each has their +/-, as usual, but I still prefer the 5000e look for my larger screen. Art's comments are also posted in one of the other 1000 threads, but I think he arrived at the same conclusion.


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Any idea when 4K DLP projectors will hit the market?
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New VPL-VW1000, or wait a year until the new model comes out and then buy the VW1000.
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Looked at the 1000 A/B to the 5000. There is no comparison IMO the SIM throws a much better picture from every perspective except pixel visibility from extremely close seating and full black out. The SIM has more light, better color,much much more dimensional image reproduction in any sort of mixed material.

I was considering a switch based on specs but it was a very very easy decision to stay with the SIM when looking at video.

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A mediocre 4K projector does not equal a quality 2K projector. I'm not saying the new Sony is mediocre, but several right here dumped their Qualias for Sims.

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I haven't seen Sony 1000 , but before I bought my Sim2 Lumis year and a half ago , i auditioned the most recent sony , JVC,Marantz at that time and none of them could hold a candle to sim2 Lumis. Even the single chip DLP Infocus IN83 ( which I had owned for 2 yrs before Sim2) had a better picture than them at least to my taste. That 's even more true if you have a big screen. I auditioned Sim2 5000e as well and I liked it even better than Lumis ( more punch and pop, just more dimensional picture), but due to cost I went with Lumis.

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Thanks guys for your opinions. You have fortified my earlier impressions of the HT5000e. Back in 2007 and/or 2008 I calibrated a couple of these for a high-end dealer friend of mine, and was amazed at the image it produced. However, I never had one in my HT - only saw them in the dealer's showroom. The only thing that concerns me is their size and weight. They are really beasts for a 71 yr old guy to handle, so I would have to recruit help to mount it for sure.

I'm sure the Sony 1000 is an incredible pj, but I think I'm going to pass on it - at least for now. I'll keep my eyes open for a HT5000e or Lumis and if I don't find one I'll wait for the next generation of 4K pj's.

I've kept my C3X 720 for a few years now, but don't use it much any more since I got an HP screen for use with my MICO 50. It's just too bright for this screen. So, I think I will sell it. It holds a dear spot in my heart as it was my first high-end pj. It was also the pj that Sim2 took around to the distributors and dealers to demo when it first came out. Atlanta was the final stop on the tour and I jumped at the opportunity to buy it then and there and have never been sorry. It still produces a glorious image if you don't sit so close to see the pixel structure.
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There is a HT5000e on Audiogon right now
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/sim...p-projector--2
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There is a HT5000e on Audiogon right now
http://app.audiogon.com/listings/sim...p-projector--2

I saw that one. I'm more than a little leery of buying it without a lens and then assuming the seller will follow through and send me a new lens. Without a lens the projector can't be checked out for convergence or anything else. If the lens takes a while to show up, your time to file a complaint could easily expire and you'd be up the creek without a paddle. Seems too risky, even for me.
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I purchased a used HT5000e over the weekend. It should be here in about a week, hopefully in time to set it up for The Masters!
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I purchased a used HT5000e over the weekend. It should be here in about a week, hopefully in time to set it up for The Masters!

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Long time no "speak" and good to see you here as we use to run into each other a fair bit on the CalMAN forum...I hope that all is well with you and congrats on the projector, from everything I hear it should be tremendous...

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I purchased a used HT5000e over the weekend. It should be here in about a week, hopefully in time to set it up for The Masters!

So whats the verdict? Impressions and photos?
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Ditto... would love to hear your thoughts now that you've had it awhile
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Yes, I have had it awhile now. The verdict is that it's superb! Once in a while it has an HDMI handshake issue with my Radiance, but I'm gradually eliminating the Radiance with this projector. Its internal CMS works great and it has 6 HDMI inputs, so I don't really need the Radiance. The picture is pristine for sure. It is better than my MICO 50 on my size screen. On a smaller screen the MICO 50 could hold its own. By far the most impressive part of the HT5000E are the optics. Convergence is virtually perfect over the entire image. The lens is uber sharp and perfect focus and lack of CA can be achieved over the entire screen.

I have decided to keep the HT5000E and have put my MICO 50 up for sale on eBay. I have also abandoned my HP2.8 screen and gone back to my original 1.3 gain screen. The focus pattern is sharper on this screen, and I don't have to worry about viewing angle which was a huge problem with the HP2.8.

So, right now I am happy. I use the HT5000E for all things 2D and have an Epson 6010 for the rare occasion when I watch (demo) 3D programs.

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Congratulations Bob; thanks for sharing your perspective
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Congrats, the HT5000e is a fantastic projector. You'll probably get quite a good return on the Mico, I remember when you got it wink.gif

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Somebody bought my MICO 50 at my "Buy Now" price, but didn't pay. So, now I have to relist it. eBay is a royal pain in the rear. Maybe I'll try selling it here before relisting it on eBay.

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