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Hi:

Can you audiophiles give me some advice on the "best" 9.2/9.4 home theater and music speakers for under $40,000?

Thanks!
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You can't beat Bose! There in the best theaters here!
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You can't beat Bose! There in the best theaters here!

Hahahaha, good one. To the OP there is no best, it's all subjective. You can do wonderful things with 40k, just try to understand there is no single best product out there. There are fantastic products from different manufactures in every category. Some homework and lot of listening will get what you desire.

Remember this is your system and what sounds good to you may not sound the same to someone else. Only advise I can give is take your time and enjoy the ride.

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Yup, I realize that...

I guess I should have asked, if you had $40,000 to spend on a 9.2 or 9.4 home theater set-up, what speakers would you get?

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Yup, I realize that...

I guess I should have asked, if you had $40,000 to spend on a 9.2 or 9.4 home theater set-up, what speakers would you get?


Does 40K include video or are you using an Apple iPad3 for your video?

"Doug Winsor" used to troll at some AV Forums as "Steve Bruzonsky"! My home theater at:
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I would definately look at JBL Synthesis systems in that price range... Their DSP/Room EQ is one of the best on the market too. (IMO)

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What is the size of your room? What is your amplification? Do you prefer in-wall, on-wall, or floor standing speakers? What is your music/movie listening %?

I wish this were my project! I know I am enjoying my ride! This is a decision to take some time with & listen to a lot of systems. Enjoy. . .

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"Best" depends on a bunch of things... first, room size and listening habits. The closer you are to the speakers, the more small monitors makes sense (drivers mounted closer together are usually easier to integrate into a single source, whereas larger speakers where the drivers are mounted further apart requires more of a distance to integrate well).

How much music, 2-ch, multi-ch, type of music?

What are you planning to use to drive all the speakers?

In other words, the more information you can give us, the better the answer will be.

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We know nothing about your room, preferences, etc. Unless you have other budget already set aside for it, I would spend some of that nice budget on hiring a professional to design your home theater/listening space for you. That might mean just telling you how to treat an existing room, or how to build / remodel a room from the ground up.
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we know nothing about your room, preferences, etc. Unless you have other budget already set aside for it, i would spend some of that nice budget on hiring a professional to design your home theater/listening space for you. That might mean just telling you how to treat an existing room, or how to build / remodel a room from the ground up.

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You can read these forums and all others until you are blue in the face and you may end up knowing more than you do now. But all you will get here is the individual responders preference. There are WAY too many unknown variables for anyone online to provide reasonable assistance. If I were in your shoes, I would contact some well respected consultants and have them assist. Without doing so, you have an outstanding opportunity of coming up way short of what $40,000 could provide.

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Write a $40,000 check to Seaton sound with the note; "Go Nuts". My guess is that a bespoke solution will beat ANY standard product.

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Ok....

Here goes:

The home theater room is 18' wide x 26' long x 10' high.

The $40,000 is JUST for the 9.2 or 9.4 speakers - I originally budgeted $25,000 - but didn't want to miss out on much better speakers for only $5K-$10K more...

We prefer floor-standing speakers that are hidden - as we have been told that they will give you the best sound...?

It is a home theater room, so most of the sound will be for movies - however we watch/listen to a lot of movie/music type blu rays, so music sound is important also...

Thanks!
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My suggestion is that you hire Dennis Erskine and get the room right first. Proper design and acoustics can make inexpensive speakers sound great and poor design will make $40k speakers sound like Bose.

Ironically, I posted a similar question to yours when I was building in 2010. Man, am I glad the AVSers guided me to Dennis. Here is my build thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1339780 if you want to see my journey.

BTW -- the photo that you posted of the theater you liked in your projector thread is a Dennis Erskine theater.
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Yes do the room right first and get somebody like Dennis
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Here is the best advice. Step back and book a trip to Cedia in Sep. You can check out and get info on just about everything you are interested in. I am sure you will also have the opportunity to talk to Dennis Erskine or Keith Yates if you so desire to have your room designed for you.


Last year at Cedia, I heard good things about speakers from a number of companies including Adam, JBL (IIRC Peter M spoke very highly of them), Seaton, etc.

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Write a $40,000 check to Seaton sound with the note; "Go Nuts". My guess is that a bespoke solution will beat ANY standard product.


Dan

Bespoke yes, but quested LT takes the cake.


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Based on the attached picture, I deduce that he means your HT has to built under a pool for optimal performance.
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I like that idea of writing a check to Mark Seaton or Dennis Eskrine and telling him to go crazy lol

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
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Actually in my home theatre room i have this:

http://89.96.202.198/documents/Z1SF_NUL0000R60.pdf

The M2 model for the front, and the S218 as subwoofer.

This speakers are great!!! Even with the music!
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1st All JBL Pro for speakers...there really is no other for old school tastes.
Bose Blows!!

My 9.2, about $100,000 to 150,000 at least when the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry bought the equipment in the late Eighties

(amps and speakers..not pre-amps and dvd/cd players)

I paid a WHOLE LOT LESS for the amps and drivers way way way way way under 40K.

Had to spend about 125 per amp to replace power transistors and another 150 to replace all the electrolytic caps

the mon-tri-amps were rebuilt by AB International owner (original owner of ABA Systems) for 200.00 each

...as he rebuilt 7 more for the Smithsonian
So>>>>>>

Using AB Systems and BGW (Sensurround) Amps
7600 WPC added at ultra low THD, all amps modded with burr brown op amps as appropriate

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two subwoofers:
4645B 18" subwoofers each driven by a BGW 750c 350/channel 900 WPC/8 ohm mono , into the 18" 2242H driver

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 All three channels driven by the 713A mono-tri-am (same setup as Smithsonian Air/Space Museum has on all 7 channels)

front right, left, center driven by three AB Systems 713A Mono-trip-amps
Low Frequency :500 WPC 8 ohm
Mid Frequency 250 WPC 8 ohm,
High Frequency 250 WPC @ 8 ohm

all three front channels:
LF Mid Bass drivers = 4636 cabinets with 12" 2206H drivers 1 per channel
Mid RangeDrivers = 2246H compression drivers 2360 horns w/truextent diaphragms
High Frequency drivers JBL 2405H

Front High Left Right Dolby 2Z
JBL 4312 Control Monitors ....... each driven by a BGW 250D in mono 250 WPC 8 Ohm
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Right Side Surrounds.....4 per side
each driven by a BGW 250E in mono 250 WPC into four JBL Pro 8340
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Left Side Surrounds.....4 per side left
each driven by a BGW 250E in mono 250 WPC into four JBL Pro 8340
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Surrounds.....2 per side rear right
each driven by a BGW 250D in mono 250 WPC into four JBL Pro 834
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Surrounds.....2 per side rear left
each driven by a BGW 250D in mono 250 WPC into four JBL Pro 8340
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Pre-amplifer Integra Home Theater.......DHC 80.1 ( going to DHC 80.3) all amps connected by XLR connections

Equalization/Digital Time Delay to correct front phase issues
JBL/Harmen two Driverack 260's, to setup the front drivers signal and time delay on the mid horns (2.6 to 2.9 ms delay)
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Blu Ray Integra DBS 50.3
iMac/MacBook Pro with Thunderbolt drive array 9 TB
Older Sony CDPCX455 400 Disc MegaStorage CD Changer and 2000 CD's
ATT U-Verse FIOS to the House
Wired Giga-Lan through house

55" Samsung 240HZ Series 9000.....best thing two yrs ago, waiting to go projector for 4K when prices come down and media is available
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Ground Loop Hum Elimination:
20KVA Noise Isolation Transformer
Star Ground to the common 20 KVA common secondary isolated ground (12 feet deep):
all on a isolated secondary panel from main power supply
5 20A dedicated circuits for channel amps
2 dedicated 30A circuits for the sub amps,
all to a isolated secondary ground keeping theater and house completely isolated= no ground loop hum
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And he best part? :<(( subs/speakers/surrounds can do 126 dB, my wife knows the pre-amp will do -80 to + 30 dB,
(7600 Watts into 9.2 channels!)

and she also knows that at - 14 dB its the level of the theater on the corner; so as we start to watch a movie she's say's: "is it set at -14dB??"

she also thinks the system is completely over the top and I'm a little nuts....I am too!

But then again only one person had the chance to buy all the old Chicago Museum of Science and Industry equipment
.....and that was by luck ME!!!


all in al its the equipment to do a 250 person theater,
the media room is 700 sq ft in size 14 ft ceiling, with a wall to accommodate a 130" x 65 projector screen
plus all the speakers in front built in, invisible

cheers.

Larry




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Dynaudio acoustics is a copy of the original work of roger quested with soft domes. This 13.10/1 setup images at 5 meter instead of the 3 maximum enjoyable with the biggest quested soft domers, in fact they are supposed to sound uncannily alike one at 3 the other at 5-6 metres.

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