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post #121 of 133 Old 12-26-2012, 02:57 PM
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When it will be there ......8K proj will be available !!!!!
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Really, you have seen what JVC did to its 8K projector... Replaced it with e-shift faux 8K, citing cost reasons.
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good projector quality has gotten less expensive in the past decade.

even new tec like the red is under 20000
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good projector quality has gotten less expensive in the past decade.

even new tec like the red is under 20000

Good-Better-Best...all these projector categories have made strides in "value" over recent years...perhaps none more dramatically than the "good" category. But you still don't find 12bit processing, top-quality lenses, larger chip sizes, and triple-flash 3D in sub 20K projectors.
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A few years back AVS changed there projector device catagories from 5000 under and over to the current 3000 dollars. There is just more really good to great projectors under 20000 and the trend will continue, thus the fewer discussion threads for projectors in this forum.
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on a side note I think projectors quality and most of all lumens has reached the largest screen sizes in most rooms.

If you have a 2 story theater room then edge blending or a projector in the 5000 luman arena would be useful and would be over 20k.

the $20000 and above projectors mgiht be coming in greater quanities with the advent of led and lazer

size and weight is another factor.

panasonic made great strides in smaller form factor with it's 20000 lumen projector at the london olympics. (if i remember right it was 95 lbs)
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Triple flash 3D is now available in the Benq W1070 (roughly $/€750,- - 800,- ). Apparantly it is part of the TI Chip(set): http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-94-12583.html.
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Triple flash 3D is now available in the Benq W1070 (roughly $/€750,- - 800,- ). Apparantly it is part of the TI Chip(set): http://www.hifi-forum.de/viewthread-94-12583.html.

Nowhere in BenQ's specification or owners manual for the W1070 is there any mention of 144Hz refresh rate. It lists a vertical scan rate of from 28 to 120Hz. In order to do triple flash, it's my understanding that you need 12bit processing and If this BenQ model were to have this and/or 144Hz 3D, why wouldn't they crow about it? I think the review you referenced is mistaken.
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No, it apparantly is a hidden feature, there are some issues, but there has been a lot of discussion on the issue, hence this German just measured the timing through the DLP link glasses. He also mentions there must be some bit depth issues.

Where's Wolfgang when you need him;-).
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What would he use a Benq for? A paper weight?

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His German simply is better than mine, BTW he was the first here to post a review of the Benq budgetprojector, the W5000, at the time, so he has dabbled with little toys. Though no reason to get hands on with this one, aside from technical curiosity, as his secondary and tertiary viewinglocations are now covered with (3D) displays/projectors.
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Sim2 put out this one in German prior to ISE:

Is this Sim2's version of the Delta single chip dual lamp projector that usually comes with two colourwheels one for video, one for presentations?


Pressemitteilung
Beste Verbindungen
Ein besonderes Merkmal des SIRIO ist seine Schnittstellenvielfalt,
darunter HDMI 1.4, LAN, Ethernet, USB. Der Projektor lässt sich
damit sehr einfach in IP-basierte Steuersysteme für die Hausautomation
einbinden. Ebenso kann die komplette Steuerung des Geräts
auf IP-Basis erfolgen, die Fernwartung ist auf diesem Weg ebenfalls
möglich, indem ein spezialisiertes Servicecenter eine Parameterliste
zu Seriennummer, Firmware-Version, Betriebsdauer der Lampen,
aktueller Konfiguration usw. abruft und die nötigen Anpassungen
dann remote durchführt.
Auch der SIRIO präsentiert sich im typischen eleganten SIM2-
Schwarz.
Verfügbarkeit und Preis
Der SIRIO ist in Deutschland ab Anfang März erhältlich. Der Basispreis
für den Projektor beträgt 23.500 Euro (inkl. MwSt), für die Optik
kommen zwischen 2.600 und 5.500 Euro dazu.


And the stack option referred to above, from DPI:

Press contact
Mark Wadsworth, International Marketing Manager
Digital Projection International
Mob: +44 (0) 7720 739752 - Email: mwadsworth@digitalprojection.co.uk
Press Release
For Immediate release
Digital Projection introduces a 40,000 Lumen solution at
ISE 2013
We enter the New Year with continued investment in our European Infrastructure and this
dedicated European team now including offices in Germany, France and the UK combines at
ISE with a serious lineup of projectors for all applications.
Following the announcement late last year of the 20,000 Lumen Titan Super Quad, ISE 2013
sees its introduction to the European market. Amsterdam RAI has already ordered a quantity
of Titan Super Quads for permanent installation at the Holland Hall entrance of the RAI
convention centre.
After spending time gathering market feedback a
brand new rigging frame has been designed with an
innovative method to combine two Titan Super
Quads to create a 40,000 Lumen projector stack in
a quick and efficient manner.
Further innovations abound with the European
debut of an LED 3-Chip 1,500 Lumen projector and
the addition of a 10,000 Lumen product to the
already successful HIGHlite series. With 3D added
to all models, the HIGHlite series is now the most feature rich 3-Chip projector in its class.
With more than 25 years experience in developing DLP projectors and a reputation for
delivering the best quality images around the world, Digital Projection continues to be at the
forefront of projection technology, all of which is demonstrated at ISE 2013, Hall 3 Stand C88
ENDS
Notes to editors :
Titan Super Quad
- 20,000 Lumens
- Smallest, Lightest, Brightest, Quietest projector in its class
- 4 x HID Long Life Lamps
- 39kg
Titan Super Quad – Double Stack
- 40,000 Lumens (two projectors aligned image)
- 8 x HID Long Life Lamps
- Smallest, Lightest, Brightest, Quietest projector in its class
Highlite 740
- 10,000 Lumens
- 3-Chip DLP
- Warp and Blend
- 3D Capable
Highlite 660 3D
- 8,000 Lumens
- 2000:1 Contrast Ratio
- WUXGA & 1080p Resolution
- Long life lamps
- 3-chip DLP
- Built-in linear and non-linear Warp
Highlite 335 3D
- 6,000 Lumens
- 2000:1 Contrast Ratio
- WUXGA & 1080p Resolution
- Long life lamp
- 3-chip DLP
- High Brightness & High Contrast Models
- Range of 7 lenses
- DynamicBlack™ for improved black
- Inputs incl. HDMI 1.4
Digital Projection International
Founded in 1989, Digital Projection International (DPI) has been instrumental in the
development and application of Digital Light Processing™ technology by Texas Instruments
for projection systems. DPI introduced the world’s first 3-chip DLP® projector in 1997, and
has since delivered expert system engineering and world-class customer services, thus
maintaining its position as a digital imaging pioneer.
DPI’s groundbreaking projection research and development has garnered the admiration of
industry professionals around the world. This has earned the company many awards,
including two Emmy® Awards for Outstanding Achievement in Engineering Development by
the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. DPI remains the first and only projector
manufacturer to win the coveted award.
Today, DPI manufactures and distributes an extensive line of ultra high-performance 3-chip
and single-chip DLP® projection systems. These projectors are the reference standard for
demanding applications such as large-venue, live-event staging, fortune 5000, education,
medical and scientific research, command and control, digital cinema, commercial
entertainment, worship and elite home cinema.
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No, it apparantly is a hidden feature, there are some issues, but there has been a lot of discussion on the issue, hence this German just measured the timing through the DLP link glasses. He also mentions there must be some bit depth issues.

Where's Wolfgang when you need him;-).

It's understandable that there would be issues if the 3D glasses were set for 144Hz frame rate and the projector's 3D refresh is 120Hz.
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