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Saw that this was announced at CES, although not many details around. Apparently hand selected parts, a redesigned light engine, 5000 lumens and a $100K price tag. Just curious if anyone knows any further details

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SIM2 says that only 30 units will be built at the $100,000 price point.  I found the following information:

 

The LUMIS Fuoriserie is notably the first projector with a 80% dimmable lamp (330W UHP) for daytime and theater viewing. Additionally, it also offers 3D capabilities with active glasses, DCI color gamut, brightness up to 5000 ANSI Lumens, and lens memory for zoom and focus for improved installation flexibility.

 

SIM2 LUMIS Fuoriserie
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SIM2’s Fuoriserie impressively incorporates only the latest, finest, most carefully selected mechanical components, and each one is individually tested to achieve unprecedented image perfection

 

 

 

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I don't understand why they are limiting production to only 30? Perhaps the components cost so much because of their superior performance characteristics Sim2 has a problem with having enough captial to build a higher quantity. I would assume the European market would be able to absorb the entire very limited production run and the US 100K market would devote itself to 4K machines. Do you suppose they build all 30 in a production run or is it more like a custom boat, built on order?

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I don't know Mark...  But clearly SIM2 thinks they have a market for it.  The 80% dimmable lamp sounds interesting.

 

From SIM2's press release:

 

"The ultimate in luxury can only be sold and installed by true high-end integrators that understand the real meaning of custom; therefore the LUMIS Fuoriserie will only be made available to SIM2 Premiere Dealers. Everyone is welcome to visit booth 20818 in the South Hall at CES 2013 in Las Vegas to learn more!"

 

http://www.sim2usa.com/home/us/node/20920

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Hopefully for that kind of money we would get great panel alignment. I wonder how they are getting 5000 lumens from a 300 watt UHP lamp when it takes two 300 watt UHPs lamp in their Teatro 80 to get less light.

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According to Sim2, these are built to order, and although the $100K price "may" be accurate, the price is yet to be confirmed.



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SIM2 says that only 30 units will be built at the $100,000 price point.  I found the following information:

The LUMIS Fuoriserie is notably the first projector with a 80% dimmable lamp (330W UHP) for daytime and theater viewing. Additionally, it also offers 3D capabilities with active glasses, DCI color gamut, brightness up to 5000 ANSI Lumens, and lens memory for zoom and focus for improved installation flexibility.

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SIM2 LUMIS Fuoriserie




SIM2’s Fuoriserie impressively incorporates only the latest, finest, most carefully selected mechanical components, and each one is individually tested to achieve unprecedented image perfection






At what price point should individual testing come into play? Also Sim2 is saying no Sim2 mail order discounters will be allowed access to the product. by limiting production and distribution, the price level can be artificially kept high.

i am not sure I completely get it. Under an open market system, it would probably sell for about $65 to $70K. At $100K there are commercial 4K machines and servers out there and the ability through connections to get 4K content. The $100,000 guy can build a projection booth and can pay for the content .I understand the barco 4K thing Sim2 showed at Cedia. This is another animal.

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That was a rebadged Christie, not Barco at CEDIA. With Barco now owning controlling interest in projectiondesign they are fully in competition with Sim on the consumer level. At the 100k price point; I no longer see relevance in consumer toys: go full-on commercial DCI and save money with lower cost of ownership.

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I agree.

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That was a rebadged Christie, not Barco at CEDIA. With Barco now owning controlling interest in projectiondesign they are fully in competition with Sim on the consumer level. At the 100k price point; I no longer see relevance in consumer toys: go full-on commercial DCI and save money with lower cost of ownership.

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How is it lower cost of ownership? Those beasts require specialized cooling and more noise abatement. And are huge relative to the size of this device. Try putting a lift on them to go up and down! They are also designed to have regular preventative maintenance.

Not saying to jump at this projector but there is a reason the market is different.

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I didn't go to CES, but a dealer friend who did tells me that apart from the above-mentioned attributes, the claim is that each of these projectors will be assembled to order to insure that the chips are perfectly aligned for the specific screen size and throw distance with which it will be used....zero registration error.
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OK. How would those operating parameters change how the chips should be aligned on the optical block? Anybody? Just jump right in. Thanks;

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OK. How would those operating parameters change how the chips should be aligned on the optical block? Anybody? Just jump right in. Thanks;

They wouldn't., what do I get ?

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OK. How would those operating parameters change how the chips should be aligned on the optical block? Anybody? Just jump right in. Thanks;

Could mean no registration errors would be visible from the seating location.

 

 

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That logic would suggest you will get a better converged one if you have a large screen and sit very close. No need to give you that if you have a smaller screen and sit further away. If the dealer statement is accurate and Sim2 is saying convergence will be set for the specific set up conditions, I and Art are still at a loss.

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I agree with Mark and Art, if they are saying the projectors 3 chip alignment is set by hand the only parameter that may change would be a lens flare issue depending on lens type/throw distance, which could not be resolved by chip manipulation.
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