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View Poll Results: Best Multi-Channel processor currently on the market?
Classe SSP800 26 9.92%
Bryton SP3 25 9.54%
ADA Mach IV 4 1.53%
ADA Mach IV+Trinnov 28 10.69%
Datasat RS20i 51 19.47%
Theta CB3 HDMI + Extreme Dacs 34 12.98%
Krell Evolution 707 15 5.73%
Mcintosh MX151 26 9.92%
JBL Synthesis with SDEC 4500 18 6.87%
Other (comment on your answer) 37 14.12%
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Old 03-16-2014, 12:36 AM
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With all respect, but just because these guys don't have a big name like Bryston, doesn't mean it isn´t possible right? There is nothing wrong with being skeptical but people should have an opinion after evaluating.

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Looks like a guy in Germany doing high dollar mods to popular equipment.  He charges, round numbers, $5500 to do the Bryston SP3.  Here's the link:

http://www.cinemike.de/HARDWARE/Bryston.aspx

Considering the MSRP of the SP3 and Bryston's work to date, I'm always fascinated that a company like Bryston has never figured out how they could improve there own equipment with these mods. wink.gif


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Meridian has had their new processor out for well over a month now. Surprised no one has mentioned it. No buzz on this thing at all.

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Htpc is a great option for those that can make it work and integrate it into a home automation scheme. They make great cards / breakout D/A converters and digital PCM output cards.

Which HTPC software currently does DTS Neo X? Experimenting with it might be fun.

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Meridian has had their new processor out for well over a month now. Surprised no one has mentioned it. No buzz on this thing at all.

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To what processor are you referring?

Meridian G65 I believe...
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How did you do the digital out to Trinnov?

I used RME AES32 Sound card which supports ASIO driver. For SW, J River which also comes with ASIO driver...Trinnov used AES32 sound card with their earlier processor.
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I used RME AES32 Sound card which supports ASIO driver. For SW, J River which also comes with ASIO driver...Trinnov used AES32 sound card with their earlier processor.

I used to do exactly the same minus the trinnov. I just find windows a steaming heap
of mess to deal with. I am much happier with simply using itunes and airplay now. The downside is that itunes doesnt do multigenre support or multiartist support like J river.

I investigated meridian sooloos but again you cant really manipulate your library on the fly with that setup.

Itunes is also annoying in that it does not pre-cache any music. There is a lag between songs when you are flipping between songs (for tag editing, etc.)

Honestly I think ALL music software and hardware is flawed in some ways, including j-rivers.

Take j-river, sooloos, itunes, and a few others out there, merge the best features, and there is some greatness to be had with existing technology.

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This thread has been quiet for a while.

Any news or rumors on new processors releasing this year?

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Just the Marantz 8802 with Atmos.

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Just the Marantz 8802 with Atmos.

What about the Trinnov Altitude - isn't that allegedly being released in the fall of 2014 (September as per the Trinnov site and what I believe Curt said on the Altitude mini-thread?)


Of course, it's unclear what codecs if any will be processed by it (quite likely Atmos at a minimum, but it's not officially confirmed), so perhaps that should be included with an asterisk for now.


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Best Multichannel Processor on the Market Today

The new Theta Casablanca IV is the best currently.

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The new Theta Casablanca IV is the best currently.


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Maybe the better question is 'Which processor do I have in my rack and would shill for'??

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I think the Trinnov Altitude will set the standard once released. Decent eq, the remap feature is unique and effective. Both immersive codecs in Auro and Atmos and 32 channels in a single chassis.

The Datasat Rs20i a close second. Again, decent eq in Dirac, upto 24 channels (but Dirac discretely to 16) and first class support from Datasat.

I don't think there will be much in the sound quality provided by each unit..just the feature set pushing the Altitude in front.

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I think the Trinnov Altitude will set the standard once released. Decent eq, the remap feature is unique and effective. Both immersive codecs in Auro and Atmos and 32 channels in a single chassis.

The Datasat Rs20i a close second. Again, decent eq in Dirac, upto 24 channels (but Dirac discretely to 16) and first class support from Datasat.

I don't think there will be much in the sound quality provided by each unit..just the feature set pushing the Altitude in front.
The Altitude seems to check all the boxes for sure.

... And you are not kidding about the support from DATASAT.

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The Altitude seems to check all the boxes for sure.

... And you are not kidding about the support from DATASAT.
I think anyone with either unit wouldn't go far wrong really Jeff

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Maybe the better question is 'Which processor do I have in my rack and would shill for'??


Touche! Well, not exactly shilling, but rather enthusiastically expressing my delight with what I now have -- as you say -- in my rack.

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Touche! Well, not exactly shilling, but rather enthusiastically expressing my delight with what I now have -- as you say -- in my rack.
That's all that matters! Good stuff! I just got my copy of Godzilla and Capt. America.. can't wait for a brainless weekend with alotta bass!!

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Yeah I think when up at this level, there really is not much between the top units. I have an RS20i but I would be equally happy with trinnov and theta for all their merrits.

I believe the CB4 with top dacs to be the best sounding one.

If money really was no object I'd have 2 RS20i daisychained using AES/EBU into a Trinnov MC then aes/ebu into a bank of Theta dacs or msb dacs.
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... And you are not kidding about the support from DATASAT.
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If money really was no object I'd have 2 RS20i daisychained using AES/EBU into a Trinnov MC then aes/ebu into a bank of Theta dacs or msb dacs.

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That's all that matters! Good stuff! I just got my copy of Godzilla and Capt. America.. can't wait for a brainless weekend with alotta bass!!
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Speaking of the subject I would like to see some plots of trinnov owners with copious amounts of bass, the demo was lacking as well as my ADA install with 10 18 volt megawoofers. Im praying is no pattern. Can someone put to rest my fears? If I knew for sure there is no such risk and if they lifted the secrecy about the price of the unit to those of us that do this for a living, then mebbe I could order one. Seems to me JBL nailed the bass integration as well as Wilfred's Auro demo. Specially on my special audition.
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Yeah I think when up at this level, there really is not much between the top units. I have an RS20i but I would be equally happy with trinnov and theta for all their merrits.

I believe the CB4 with top dacs to be the best sounding one.

If money really was no object I'd have 2 RS20i daisychained using AES/EBU into a Trinnov MC then aes/ebu into a bank of Theta dacs or msb dacs.
I am most happy with my CBIV! I thought the CB3 HD was good - but the IV is even much better. With each I use my Theta Generation VIII Series 4 DAC for the front left and right, which is a real added benefit being able to use Theta's external Gen VIII DAC!!@@ But I won't put down other top "dog" SSPs as they each have their strong points and uses depending on your preference and your system. I won't badmouth other SSPs out there.

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I just realized from a conversation with Curt that the Trinnov is 32 channels on Atmos, every other manufacturer shipping Q1 atmos (including I am afraid the Datasat becuase it will require a Dolby Board Swap) is relying on the same 9+2+1 12 channel Atmos integrated circuit so if you are a Surround Sound Superfreak you'll have to go with the Trinnov.

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I just realized from a conversation with Curt that the Trinnov is 22 channels on Atmos, every other manufacturer shipping Q1 atmos (including I am afraid the Datasat becuase it will require a Dolby Board Swap) is relying on the same 9+2+1 12 channel Atmos integrated circuit so if you are a Surround Sound Superfreak you'll have to go with the Trinnov.
That is disappointing news in respect to the RS20i. Really does seperate the Altitude from the rest although Storm Audio may still offer as many channels.
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I just realized from a conversation with Curt that the Trinnov is 22 channels on Atmos,...
Max 32 channels, Peter, not 22. Crazy flexibility for bi/tri-amping, etc.
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You know guys, the Anthem Statement D2 with ARC is really good. Not saying it is the very best but certainly a pre pro for the high end enthusiast.
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You know guys, the Anthem Statement D2 with ARC is really good. Not saying it is the very best but certainly a pre pro for the high end enthusiast.
IT would be a far better piece if they took the scaler out of it. Likely that would cure 80% of the bugs... And who needs a scaler anymore!??!

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You know guys, the Anthem Statement D2 with ARC is really good. Not saying it is the very best but certainly a pre pro for the high end enthusiast.



I have been considering the anthem D2V to go along with my statement A5 amp and paradigm studio speaker set. I find the PBK set up on my old DSP3400 sub to work extremely well.
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I just realized from a conversation with Curt that the Trinnov is 32 channels on Atmos, every other manufacturer shipping Q1 atmos (including I am afraid the Datasat becuase it will require a Dolby Board Swap) is relying on the same 9+2+1 12 channel Atmos integrated circuit so if you are a Surround Sound Superfreak you'll have to go with the Trinnov.
For all the talk of the 'cheap' Japanese manufacturers only being capable of Atmos with 7.1.4, if this is correct Peter, then it's downright embarrassing that the Datasat will only offer this configuration.

Anyone investing in the Rs20i won't be your average joe throwing a few bucks in the direction of the Datasat. They will have expectations as far as surround sound standards go. Again, if this information is correct, I can see no reason to choose the Datasat over the Trinnov, even for 16 channel capability. It's as simple as that.

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my friend have a chance bring mark no 40 home compare to his own krell 1200 side by side .there was no comparison , the result was K.O ,

my friend didnt even know how to set lpcm at his player for no40 , so he s only using the core of dts but still win the krell with dtd -hd .
he said he heard a lot of sound that never heard before even using bisteam in his player , so we can imagine how detail the mark was if he set the player as lpcm out .

i believe mark was the only few that come close to theta or meridian or even better .

sometimes ....hifi was not a logical disscussion nomatter how hi-tech , how many channel , how fast the dac . its all about the sound , the control , nomatter how new the dac doesnt mean u will have great sound . tuning was the most important part .

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