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First of all - thanks to thrang for a terrific thread! Those first few posts have so much information - very nice. I was wondering, for folks who have used both Audyssey and Room Perfect, what do you find the differences are between the two - the pros/cons? I have zero acoustic treatments in a great room with family room, dining table, and kitchen. I've tried Audyssey MultEQ XT32, and there are pros/cons. Without it applied and in Pure Audio mode, I get a better/clearer sound. Audyssey seems to have a fuller sound, smoother, yet, almost sounding too flat. It almost sounds a little more ambient and a little less solid. Also, did you guys use Dynamic EQ, when you had your processors with Audyssey? If so, does the MX150/151 have it?

Thanks, and sorry if this has already been covered.

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Never mind on the above - I've found some info from thrang in other forums/threads that have basically answered my questions as well as they can be answered without actually comparing myself. Guess I'll have to do that :-)

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Yes, but I have been told the MX 150 has handshake issues and I am just trying to find if anyone has encountered the particular problem. The Oppo has better sound &amp; picture so I would like to resolve the problem and continue to use the Oppo if possible.<br>
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I've not heard of specific handshake issues, but of course its possible.<br><br>
It still could be an oppo issue, as there was with the 103 and the 151 - I think it took an oppo firmware update to address the issue...addino, was that the case? I don't recall precisely what your issue was and how it was resolved...<br><br>
@pictureplus - have you talked to Chuck at McIntosh support? I know they are testing new firmware, so perhaps there are fixes related to what you're experiencing....<br><br>
Have you tried both bitstream and PCM from the 95? Is the condition the same?
I'm jumping into this Thread many months after it initially started. I hope it is still active. I'm also a first time poster. And I appreciate listening to music and home theater on an incredible system - but I'm not very technical and I had all my gear professionally installed.

I found this thread because I am having issues with my McIntosh MX-151 and I've been having them since I bought it. I bought the unit from House of Music in San Fran.

Here is a quick summary of my issue: The MX-151 has issues switching audio sources or modes. For example, if I switch from my DVR to my PS3 - the MX151 switches to stereo. I have to switch to another device (like my Wadia 171 for my iPod) and then switch back - and THEN I have surround sound.

Another example is switching channels within DirecTV. Often when I go to a new channel the MX151 does some audio switching but then I have NO audio whatsoever. I have to change channels, and then come back, to get any audio. Sometimes I have to turn the entire system off.

All my issues are related to MX-151 Audio switching.

I've had a rep from McIntosh (arranged by Chuck) and a rep from House of Music out to my house and they installed a McIntosh software upgrade and ran the Room Perfect setup again. I did see some improvement - but I still have issues. This was about 6 months ago. I've sent an email to Chuck to see if there is another software upgrade.

I 'upgraded' to the MX151 from the Classe SSP800 (in the same system except for the processor). The SSP800 did not have these issues. The MX151 elevates my home theater as compared to the SSP800 but these technical issues are super annoying and quite frankly unacceptable at this price point.

The McIntosh Rep and House of Music already examined all my cables and that stuff and it is not that - it is definitely the MX151. McIntosh and House of Music did not charge me to install the software upgrade since my system was brand new and I was experiencing these. I've had it about a year now and the issues are not as but - but still pervasive.

Am I the only MX151 owner seeing these types of issues? Anyone have a resolution?

Thanks!

JL

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Hi, can someone tell me what the difference is between the MX150 and the MX151?

I have an MX136 and debating on whether to upgrade. Again, I am not sure how much of a difference there is between my MX136 and the MX150.

Please help.

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The difference is software based, allowing the 151 to pass 3d video. There may be some other minor tweaks or improvements, but no hardware differences.
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I'm jumping into this Thread many months after it initially started. I hope it is still active. I'm also a first time poster. And I appreciate listening to music and home theater on an incredible system - but I'm not very technical and I had all my gear professionally installed.

I found this thread because I am having issues with my McIntosh MX-151 and I've been having them since I bought it. I bought the unit from House of Music in San Fran.

Here is a quick summary of my issue: The MX-151 has issues switching audio sources or modes. For example, if I switch from my DVR to my PS3 - the MX151 switches to stereo. I have to switch to another device (like my Wadia 171 for my iPod) and then switch back - and THEN I have surround sound.

Another example is switching channels within DirecTV. Often when I go to a new channel the MX151 does some audio switching but then I have NO audio whatsoever. I have to change channels, and then come back, to get any audio. Sometimes I have to turn the entire system off.

All my issues are related to MX-151 Audio switching.

I've had a rep from McIntosh (arranged by Chuck) and a rep from House of Music out to my house and they installed a McIntosh software upgrade and ran the Room Perfect setup again. I did see some improvement - but I still have issues. This was about 6 months ago. I've sent an email to Chuck to see if there is another software upgrade.

I 'upgraded' to the MX151 from the Classe SSP800 (in the same system except for the processor). The SSP800 did not have these issues. The MX151 elevates my home theater as compared to the SSP800 but these technical issues are super annoying and quite frankly unacceptable at this price point.

The McIntosh Rep and House of Music already examined all my cables and that stuff and it is not that - it is definitely the MX151. McIntosh and House of Music did not charge me to install the software upgrade since my system was brand new and I was experiencing these. I've had it about a year now and the issues are not as but - but still pervasive.

Am I the only MX151 owner seeing these types of issues? Anyone have a resolution?

Thanks!

JL
I know of two hdmi audio issues with the MX, both which have been fixed.

One was a silent stream bug from the new Oppo's, but that was fixed several months ago by Oppo. If you have this issue with an Oppo, and are running the latest Oppo firmware, perhaps the fix was outside the normal builds and provided on a request basis (doubt this however)

The other issue was no audio from the Sony FMP-X1 4k media server, McIntosh fixed this, but I think the firmware in this case is available on a request basis at this stage.


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I'm jumping into this Thread many months after it initially started. I hope it is still active. I'm also a first time poster. And I appreciate listening to music and home theater on an incredible system - but I'm not very technical and I had all my gear professionally installed.

I found this thread because I am having issues with my McIntosh MX-151 and I've been having them since I bought it. I bought the unit from House of Music in San Fran.

Here is a quick summary of my issue: The MX-151 has issues switching audio sources or modes. For example, if I switch from my DVR to my PS3 - the MX151 switches to stereo. I have to switch to another device (like my Wadia 171 for my iPod) and then switch back - and THEN I have surround sound.

Another example is switching channels within DirecTV. Often when I go to a new channel the MX151 does some audio switching but then I have NO audio whatsoever. I have to change channels, and then come back, to get any audio. Sometimes I have to turn the entire system off.

All my issues are related to MX-151 Audio switching.

I've had a rep from McIntosh (arranged by Chuck) and a rep from House of Music out to my house and they installed a McIntosh software upgrade and ran the Room Perfect setup again. I did see some improvement - but I still have issues. This was about 6 months ago. I've sent an email to Chuck to see if there is another software upgrade.

I 'upgraded' to the MX151 from the Classe SSP800 (in the same system except for the processor). The SSP800 did not have these issues. The MX151 elevates my home theater as compared to the SSP800 but these technical issues are super annoying and quite frankly unacceptable at this price point.

The McIntosh Rep and House of Music already examined all my cables and that stuff and it is not that - it is definitely the MX151. McIntosh and House of Music did not charge me to install the software upgrade since my system was brand new and I was experiencing these. I've had it about a year now and the issues are not as but - but still pervasive.

Am I the only MX151 owner seeing these types of issues? Anyone have a resolution?

Thanks!

JL
Are you using a universal learning remote, such as Harmony 1, factory remote or no remote when these events occur?
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Are you using a universal learning remote, such as Harmony 1, factory remote or no remote when these events occur?
Yes, I am using the Monster MCC AVL 300 to control my entire system (except for PS3).
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How could this matter re: audio handshake issues?
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How could this matter re: audio handshake issues?
The McIntosh rep and House of Music rep used my MCC AVL 300 while they were here working on the system and they did not mention the remote control being a concern.

I was thinking it was surround sound related because I constantly have issues with the my PS3 and DirecTV DVR. But also have an Oppo BDP-93 and I can't recall having an issue with that. For 2 channel music, I use an iPod via a Wadia 171. I never have audio issues with that either.

It is baffling and frustrating. I can duplicate the PS3 error every single time. The DVR issues are random but frequent.
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How could this matter re: audio handshake issues?

Well, if you program a non-Mc remote to do the switching, you can have issues especially in a macro where a device or the 151 will not get enough time to switch correctly. You can also have power up issues where a device is not ready to accept a command and sometimes the HDMI handshake takes longer than one thinks. Not saying this is what is happening here, but in setting up my 151 I found I had to alter some of the universal's commands to make the handshake happen correctly. He should at least do all his analysis using the original Mc remote or use the front panel controls. If he is having issues after doing so, then yes, there may be a 151 issue, though the sources should also be checked for their settings of course. I had a situation where I was not getting an HDMI handshake from the 151, but it turned out that the TV needed longer to fire up before it could accept the handshake. Once I fixed that, all good.
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Hate to ask a Captain Obvious question here but are you 100% sure your DirecTV DVR under audio settings Dolby Digital is set to ON? That is a super common mistake and I find a lot of DirecTV installers don't even set it when they are hooking up a receiver.

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As for the PS3 in its Audio Settings make sure you have all of the possible options checked. If not you will get stereo as a default mode when you turn it on.

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Hate to ask a Captain Obvious question here but are you 100% sure your DirecTV DVR under audio settings Dolby Digital is set to ON? That is a super common mistake and I find a lot of DirecTV installers don't even set it when they are hooking up a receiver.

Dolby Digital is On. Just confirmed.
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Having just picked up a firmware updated MX-150 not long ago, I have found it hard to find any solid info on the differences. They do def run diff firmwares, however I found by accident with the latest beta update that the MX-150 will run both the specific 150 version and 151 version (with a minor file name tweak). So whatever the difference it must be fairly small in a component sense. Don't know if anyone has ever asked McIntosh to clarify. I'd be curious myself.

As for reasons to upgrade from your existing MX136, I would think there's plenty. 2 that come to mind are lack of RC in the form of Room Perfect and lack of HDMI audio (how are you listening to Blurays currently - analog decoded loss-less soundtracks from the player). Access to setup menus is a lot easier on the 150/151 as well.

You may want to look around for a secondhand 150/151 as I did. It may be a bit of commitment at this stage in the product's life-cycle to buy one brand new, but that's up to you.
Thanks for the reply. I ended up getting an MX150 from Magnolia.
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...Another example is switching channels within DirecTV. Often when I go to a new channel the MX151 does some audio switching but then I have NO audio whatsoever. I have to change channels, and then come back, to get any audio. Sometimes I have to turn the entire system off.
I have a Dish Network Hopper, so I hope I don't encounter the same issues with the MX151. I'll know in about a week or so....


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I must say, perhaps I am insulated from some of this as my DTV passes through a Lumagen video processor, which stabilizes lots of hdmi wonkiness as a nice byproduct.

Way early, I do recall DTV audio issues as you describe, but firmware updates to the 151, Lumagen, and/or my DTV addressed things. Actually, I mace have upgraded to the Genie around that time, so perhaps it was a hardware issue with the earlier DTV DVR. I've had odd audio issues periodically with DTV boxes well before the MX, and somehow they "go away" eventually, presumably when DTV gets around to fixing firmware...


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Thanks for the reply. I ended up getting an MX150 from Magnolia.
Ironic, mine originally came from Magnolia in mid 2013. They must have bought up a fair few 150's. Make sure you have the latest 3D enabled firmware. If you have any other issues like I did with HTPC audio, you can get the latest beta firmware as well.

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Received my MX-151 today. I'm excited to try RoomPerfect, but a little worried about possible hdmi issues. I'll report on both in the next few days.

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Received my MX-151 today. I'm excited to try RoomPerfect, but a little worried about possible hdmi issues. I'll report on both in the next few days.

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I wouldn't anticipate HDMI issues at all. Enjoy!

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I've been looking for a consensus on when it's best to still use Perfect Bass Kit on my Paradigm Sub1 then run Room Perfect or skip it and let Room Perfect do all the work? I'm running PBK now and I'm not entirely sure the sub is that well balanced at times, as if it's a tad intrusive on certain material, mainly soundtracks to TV and Films. What do those of you here who have self EQing subs do, sub EQ then RP or only RP?

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hmmmmm....maybe, maybe not. I would test the basic set up before you do Room Perfect to be sure all the switching takes place correctly. And do so with the front panel or at most the factory remote. Don't start with a universal remote. I did have HDMI issues with an HTPC a source, but solved by combination of shut down of the PC plus a better HDMI cable. DO follow the owners manual when it says the unit needs to be off and unplugged until all cables are attached. Also have all the sources and the TV shut off and preferable unplugged. Then plug in the 151, start it, wait the 45 or so seconds for it to boot, then power up sources and TV. After all that is good, do the RP set up following Ron-C's excellent YouTube video tutorial. You can also program your universal remote if you have one. Be aware that if you keep the MX151 on power save, you will need a start up delay of 45-50 seconds before it will accept a switching command and, once up, if you go from a non-TV source such as a tuner, to a TV source (DVD or PC), you may need to put in a delay for the 151 to switch until the TV warms up so the 151 will "see" it and do a handshake. All of this from my own recent experience. If you are using a PC as one source, so state and I can tell you how that has to be handled.
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More than anything, don't calibrate until you've checked your firmware version and see if you have the latest (your dealer or Chuck at McIntosh support can email you the latest file)

After upgrading (via USB stick), perform a factory reset and then proceed setting up sources and running Room Perfect.


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More than anything, don't calibrate until you've checked your firmware version and see if you have the latest (your dealer or Chuck at McIntosh support can email you the latest file)

After upgrading (via USB stick), perform a factory reset and then proceed setting up sources and running Room Perfect.
Boy, Thrang is absolutely right. I thought my unit, shipped from factory near end of April, would have latest, but it did not and yes, if you do install updated firmware, you have to do the RP and all the other settings all over again.
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Boy, Thrang is absolutely right. I thought my unit, shipped from factory near end of April, would have latest, but it did not and yes, if you do install updated firmware, you have to do the RP and all the other settings all over again.
You will likely never see the latest firmware installed on the new shipments. McIntosh considers the firmware update "unofficial" and may not see an official release. Not sure why but that was their explanation.


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Received my MX-151 today. I'm excited to try RoomPerfect, but a little worried about possible hdmi issues. I'll report on both in the next few days.

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So far, so good!! Here's the status:

1) I will contact McIntosh Labs today to see if I can get the latest firmware.

2) I have not yet run RoomPerfect - will probably do that tomorrow or Saturday.

3) HDMI works beautifully!! (such a relief!) I have a Dish Hopper DVR, a Marantz UD7007 blu ray player, Apple TV, and a Wii U, and all sources work perfectly. The hdmi locking is very quick, no clicks or problems whatsoever. Night and day compared to the problematic Krell S-1200U 3D that I previously had. That unit had great audio and video, but my wife kicked it out of the house because of the very problematic hdmi interface. Very nicely done McIntosh!!

4) The video is outstanding! For those who don't use a video processor and are depending upon the video through the MX151, it's very good.

5) The lighting on the front display of the unit is a pro and a con. I actually love the look and during the day it's nice to have. A lot of great information is provided, much more than any other processor I've had. For dark room viewing, I wish there was a way to be able to turn it off. Even at 25%, it's still a bit distracting from the TV. This would be my one suggestion to the McIntosh folks, especially for a home theater piece of equipment.

6) The audio is just OK for now. Once I do RoomPerfect, we'll see what magic it provides


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So far, so good!! Here's the status:

1) I will contact McIntosh Labs today to see if I can get the latest firmware.

2) I have not yet run RoomPerfect - will probably do that tomorrow or Saturday.

3) HDMI works beautifully!! (such a relief!) I have a Dish Hopper DVR, a Marantz UD7007 blu ray player, Apple TV, and a Wii U, and all sources work perfectly. The hdmi locking is very quick, no clicks or problems whatsoever. Night and day compared to the problematic Krell S-1200U 3D that I previously had. That unit had great audio and video, but my wife kicked it out of the house because of the very problematic hdmi interface. Very nicely done McIntosh!!

4) The video is outstanding! For those who don't use a video processor and are depending upon the video through the MX151, it's very good.

5) The lighting on the front display of the unit is a pro and a con. I actually love the look and during the day it's nice to have. A lot of great information is provided, much more than any other processor I've had. For dark room viewing, I wish there was a way to be able to turn it off. Even at 25%, it's still a bit distracting from the TV. This would be my one suggestion to the McIntosh folks, especially for a home theater piece of equipment.

6) The audio is just OK for now. Once I do RoomPerfect, we'll see what magic it provides


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I've actually got both beta firmwares, 150 and 151. If you have any hassles getting them let me know.

Glad you had no HDMI issues. Fortunately you're unlikey to encounter the HDMI frustrations that the 4K projector guys like myself, Joerod, thrang and Adidino. Trying to get audio from the X1 player is problematic for example. Hopefully though the upcoming X10 player plays nicer with the McIntosh. Other than that there's very little by way of HDMI out there I think you'd have trouble using.

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A couple of points to clarify:

- the MX does not do any video processing whatsoever. Pure passthrough
- the latest beta firmware from McIntosh does fix the audio issue with the FMP-X1; but you have to ask for it.

I really don't know why they don't roll up the last few betas and make a new point release so everyone is on the same level.


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I've been looking for a consensus on when it's best to still use Perfect Bass Kit on my Paradigm Sub1 then run Room Perfect or skip it and let Room Perfect do all the work? I'm running PBK now and I'm not entirely sure the sub is that well balanced at times, as if it's a tad intrusive on certain material, mainly soundtracks to TV and Films. What do those of you here who have self EQing subs do, sub EQ then RP or only RP?
I believe the best method (that worked great for me) is to run PBK on your sub as the first step. That will bring the sub very close to optimal in your room. Room Perfect will have less work to do and will be the final overall configuration.

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I believe the best method (that worked great for me) is to run PBK on your sub as the first step. That will bring the sub very close to optimal in your room. Room Perfect will have less work to do and will be the final overall configuration.
Thanks, that was my own consensus going off what's recommended with PBK and other RC systems. Never hurts to check though.

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RoomPerfect ?

I ran RoomPerfect and achieved 97% knowledge. When RoomPerfect is activated, I noticed the level offsets are all zero. Is this normal? Do I need to change them manually?


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I ran RoomPerfect and achieved 97% knowledge. When RoomPerfect is activated, I noticed the level offsets are all zero. Is this normal? Do I need to change them manually?

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That's normal. If you upgraded your firmware, the previous rev allowed you to see the bypass levels. Feature was removed in the new firmware for some reason.


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