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As much as I really liked the MX151 I am in love with the Datasat RS20i and it doing Auramatic sound. Will I check out a new model from McIntosh? Absolutely!


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As much as I really liked the MX151 I am in love with the Datasat RS20i and it doing Auramatic sound. Will I check out a new model from McIntosh? Absolutely!

Joe, I'd love to do up the new HT I'm about to fit out with an RS20i instead of an 8802, let alone whatever Mc bring out eventually. However, as at yesterday I just found out the upgrade for my other mediaroom with SL to take it up to Auro/ATMOS with the their P200 processor and 5 more channels of speakers and amps is going to set me back $62k all up . I have to start paying that upgrade off now so it can be done in probably July. The scary thing is I'll spend a fraction of the upgrade cost fitting out the bigger HT in the house I just bought with my existing gear, trading the MX-150, adding some extra speakers and amps. Its going to have been one expensive year for me in the hobby by the time July rolls around!

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Hey thrang and adidino,

Just wondering if you could share your thoughts on your experiences with Dirac Live. I had thought you had heard and worked with someone on a Datasat product previously.

Also, have you considered at all the Lyngdorf P200?


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Also, have you considered at all the Lyngdorf P200?


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Dave, just out of interest, I have a P200 going into replace the existing less than a year old P1 in my 'smallish' SL S-series system around July. System is being expanded to full ATMOS/Auro capability. An eye-wateringly costly upgrade, that I was close to canning until my dealer said I could spread the payment over the next 4 months! My other room which will house whatever I replace the MX-150 with (an 8802 at this stage) and take up to full ATMOS/Auro config from existing 5.1 equipment, will be a fraction of the cost of the P200 upgrade. If I didn't already have SL gear in that other location, no way would I have gone for the P200, conversely no way would I ever contemplate a P200 full system replacement of my MX-150 based Revel/Anthem system for the equiv sized SL system, just way too OTT in $$ terms.


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Dave, just out of interest, I have a P200 going into replace the existing less than a year old P1 in my 'smallish' SL S-series system around July. System is being expanded to full ATMOS/Auro capability. An eye-wateringly costly upgrade, that I was close to canning until my dealer said I could spread the payment over the next 4 months! My other room which will house whatever I replace the MX-150 with (an 8802 at this stage) and take up to full ATMOS/Auro config from existing 5.1 equipment, will be a fraction of the cost of the P200 upgrade. If I didn't already have SL gear in that other location, no way would I have gone for the P200, conversely no way would I ever contemplate a P200 full system replacement of my MX-150 based Revel/Anthem system for the equiv sized SL system, just way too OTT in $$ terms.
Interesting. You are getting a P200, but almost already sounding like you are regretting your purchase. It will be interesting to hear your comparison of the 8802 vs the MX-150, as well as your opinion of the P200, once you get some time with it.

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Hey thrang and adidino,

Just wondering if you could share your thoughts on your experiences with Dirac Live. I had thought you had heard and worked with someone on a Datasat product previously.

Also, have you considered at all the Lyngdorf P200?


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We had a couple of demos about a year or so ago that were not impressive, but we ascribe that to less than optimal rooms and setups, so can't really comment further.

Datasat causes me mild concern regarding their long term viability in the marketplace, cost, and resaleability given it's somewhat custom nature. But I'm open and would like to re-listen.

P200 is also very niche and expensive. I'm increasingly certain the days of $10k processors are not necessary, unless they offer a large number channels for big installations or other specialized features, neither of which I foresee for me.

If the 8802/Audyssey leaves me feeling shortchanged, I'd look at the new MX in the future if they didn't get stupid with pricing, chiefly because of how much I enjoy the 151 and the utilization of Room Perfect.

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If the 8802/Audyssey leaves me feeling shortchanged, I'd look at the new MX in the future if they didn't get stupid with pricing, chiefly because of how much I enjoy the 151 and the utilization of Room Perfect.
Thanks so much for you input, and I pretty much agree. I really enjoyed my time with the 151 and RP. Are you in the process of trying the 8802? If so, I really look forward to your comments!

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Thanks so much for you input, and I pretty much agree. I really enjoyed my time with the 151 and RP. Are you in the process of trying the 8802? If so, I really look forward to your comments!

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In about three weeks...
I thought something might be happening on that front

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Interesting. You are getting a P200, but almost already sounding like you are regretting your purchase. It will be interesting to hear your comparison of the 8802 vs the MX-150, as well as your opinion of the P200, once you get some time with it.

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I decided on the upgrade when I was told there would be one back when my P1 was first getting installed. That was a a couple of months before the announcement of the P200 at Cedia, which got me even more excited when I read the feedback from the demos. I had started to try to anticipate the likely outlay for the upgrade to the P200, know the P1 would be traded in. My rep from the dealer finally came through with the costing for the entire upgrade with the extra channels and required amplification 3 weeks ago. I seriously nearly fell out my chair as the cost is essentially what the initial system itself cost, just for the upgrade or more than the replacement cost of my entire MX-150/Revel/Anthem system. So you can probably understand my reaction to a degree, deep breath material without a doubt. There's going to be a slight problem with being able to truly compare the MX-150 with 8802 as it's getting traded in before the new room is set up, so I won't have anything like the same room dynamics to enable a true comparison. The P200 I can certainly compare in the same room as the P1, I'm pretty sure though sonically it will sound very similar to the P1 with the addition of the extra channels.

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Guys, along with thrang, I'm also a MX-15x owner that's bought a Marantz 8802 to try out. I've had a limited time with it so far after set up today, but have posted some initial thoughts on the 8802 thread : Marantz AV8802 13.2 XLR Pre/Pro **Official Thread** . So far though, (aside from going back and revising my thoughts on the long held idea of 80hz crossovers for all speakers for Audyssey RC), I think that while the processor itself maybe a step up on previous Marantz and Denon models, it's short of what we've come accustomed to with the McIntosh/RoomPerfect sound. So as I pretty well anticipated, I'd say with a high degree of certainty that I'll be looking very closely at McIntosh's next gen AVP. What I may be gaining now in extra channels and things like 4K pass through, there seems at this early point to be definite, but anticipated sonic trade-offs. If my experience changes with further tweaking across the next few days of listening, I'll update accordingly.


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thrang and OzHDHT, thanks for the initial comparisons from the AV8802!

I didn't expect the AV8802 to come out ahead in sound quality over the MX150/151 that costs substantially more, but was hoping for the mainstream processor to come very close, enough to even offset the added new features over my MX150. I guess the added features of the AV8802 that I would like to have (4K output, dual HDMI output, new sound formats) really should not outweigh the fundamental core feature of a processor, which to me is the sound quality above all else and being enveloped in the content. I have been very pleased as well with the MX150 performance and looks to me I will be holding on to it that much longer until Mac's next gen.

Now I was planning on installing a couple height channels in the new theatre in anticipation of a 7.1.2 layout, I just wish we could use the AUX 3/4 for these extra channels. If only Mac can work this out in a firmware to mirror the surround back channels that would be nice.

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Well, today I purchased a Datasat RS20i with Dirac Calibration kit...

Really enjoyed my time with the MX151 and it was a great improvement over the Anthem D2V3D processor but just could not wait any longer. It just does not appear that McIntosh is keeping up with everyone else, even with the 151 they have yet to release needed firmware updates...

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Would love to hear your feedback. Currently have the 8802 to hold me for a while which replaced my 151. Won't be able setup for a week or so. Theater is getting a long needed facelift.


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Well, today I purchased a Datasat RS20i with Dirac Calibration kit...

Really enjoyed my time with the MX151 and it was a great improvement over the Anthem D2V3D processor but just could not wait any longer. It just does not appear that McIntosh is keeping up with everyone else, even with the 151 they have yet to release needed firmware updates...

It will be interesting to see how easy Dirac calibration is vs RoomPerfect.
Curious to hear your feedback...

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So I've decided to keep the 151 over the Marantz...anyone wants a two day old 8802 pm me...
Thrang, wasn't sure if you ended up testing the AV8802 with overhead speakers? If so, what speakers did you end up going with again? In the market for some in preparation but cant decide on which ones.

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I installed four Kef ci200rr-THX speakers. They worked well during my limited testing, but not much native material to test, more dsu...

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Would love to hear your feedback. Currently have the 8802 to hold me for a while which replaced my 151. Won't be able setup for a week or so. Theater is getting a long needed facelift.


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Addino, I am curious as to why you replaced the MX151 for the Marantz AV8802?
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The MX 160 was to be on display at the Newport Audio Show in Irvine, CA this weekend (May 29-31). It is not. I was told McIntosh is still working on its construction.
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The MX 160 was to be on display at the Newport Audio Show in Irvine, CA this weekend (May 29-31). It is not. I was told McIntosh is still working on its construction.
Maybe they need Jeremy Clarkson to show up with a hammer...

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Maybe they need Jeremy Clarkson to show up with a hammer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xsVX6029rU
+1, something for him to do now that he's in between gigs!

I sincerely hope McIntosh pull their fingers out and get cracking. I'm thinking things may perhaps not be as focused as they were in the D&M era perhaps..

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Problem with MX151

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I have an MX151. It has been giving some problem of late. It keeps switching the input automatically and randomly. E.g. While playing TV, it will switch to DVD, PS3 or CD input. The timing/frequency of the switch or the input it switches to is random. I have all of it connected through HDMI.

I thought it was due to Harmony remote but the problem persists even when using original remotes.

Has anyone else come across this problem? Any help would be highly appreciated.

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Hi

I have an MX151. It has been giving some problem of late. It keeps switching the input automatically and randomly. E.g. While playing TV, it will switch to DVD, PS3 or CD input. The timing/frequency of the switch or the input it switches to is random. I have all of it connected through HDMI.

I thought it was due to Harmony remote but the problem persists even when using original remotes.

Has anyone else come across this problem? Any help would be highly appreciated.

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My unit is about a year old and I have not seen that, nor have I seen this reported on other forums. You may want to shut down and unplug the power for 4-5 minutes and do a restart. Will not hurt and may cure. If not, I would write Chuck H. at McIntosh and get his input.
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While I did encounter some hdmi hiccups with my MX151, I did not ever encounter what you are describing.

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My McIntosh dealer called today to let me know that McIntosh is now accepting orders for the MX160. 14K price tag. Delivery late June / Early July.

My Datasat RS20i is scheduled to arrive tomorrow (From a different Dealer). I did not pay that much more for the RS20I vs the MX160

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My McIntosh dealer called today to let me know that McIntosh is now accepting orders for the MX160. 14K price tag. Delivery late June / Early July.

My Datasat RS20i is scheduled to arrive tomorrow (From a different Dealer). I did not pay that much more for the RS20I vs the MX160
Huh? They just missed a show last week because they had issues apparently in development, and now they are taking orders??

What are the specs? Anything published anywhere?

This seems odd to me...
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My McIntosh dealer called today to let me know that McIntosh is now accepting orders for the MX160. 14K price tag. Delivery late June / Early July.

My Datasat RS20i is scheduled to arrive tomorrow (From a different Dealer). I did not pay that much more for the RS20I vs the MX160
Doesn't make sense. No official announcements, no specs released, no images, nothing... Other than what select dealers are saying and this thread, I haven't read much.
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You guys are going to have to wait a short while...

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My McIntosh dealer called today to let me know that McIntosh is now accepting orders for the MX160. 14K price tag. Delivery late June / Early July.

My Datasat RS20i is scheduled to arrive tomorrow (From a different Dealer). I did not pay that much more for the RS20I vs the MX160
As per what thrang and adidino said, this would be pretty odd for them to be taking orders with no announcements at all on the MX-160 yet. If there were any truth to it, it certainly could impact a few of us who've stepped into 8802's like myself just recently.
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Could go with Trinnov Altitude or Datasat...more bells and whistles, more channels, more upgradeable, more $$. Sound characteristics...not sure, room eq...not sure, haven't heard them.

Or

McIntosh MX160: less $, likely to have considerably less channels, not upgradeable (McIntosh heritage), Room Perfect and that proven smooth, deep, solid yet airy/3d soundstage.

What are your thoughts? Those that have heard the 151 vs Datasat and the Altitude, please comment. Is the proven McIntosh sound quality worth the potential short comings?
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