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post #811 of 822 Old 06-16-2015, 09:31 AM
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I'll be curious as to whether the MX160 has any sonic improvements over the MX151. Or, is it just an MX151 with a few more features?

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You didn't give one reason why datasat should sound better than mx-151.

Yes it can have more speakers and setup is more complex. Tell me if it has better power section, better dacs, better op amps, better anything beside software.

I am not saying datasat shouldn't cost 25k or it is bad. I am just saying for someone with electrical engineering background, having the best sound quality isn't its primary design goals. You should compare the two units when room correction is disabled anyway unless you are comparing the ability of the two room correction schemes.

Just for food for thoughts: most good subs like jl audio ones, comes with their own room correction. Having multiple subwoofer output isn't that necessary maybe?
I had them both in the same exact spot in the same exact room. Not just myself but all my visitors (without ever discussing cost of each component) preferred the RS20i. I guess you can say it was judged more so with our ears instead of what's on paper. Have you ever heard one in a dedicated room set up? And trust me I was a big fan of the MX151 and still am for rooms with less speakers.

As for subwoofers I am using two BalancedForce 212s from Martin Logan. Yes they came with their own microphone and set up procedure. The other sub out I use is for my butt kickers.

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Best of luck, with your continued recovery (if not fully recovered yet). I always enjoy your reviews and your gear comparisons. On the plus side, having a good amount of time to spend in the theater is a really nice way to recover

I'll keep my eye on the MX160 - I really enjoyed the MX151. Soon, I will be trying the Theta Casablanca IV w/Dirac Live...

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For those of you interested in the new batch of object audio processors: Datasat RS20i, Trinnov Altitude, future Classe, and 160, if they only had the 9 gbps chips, but were hdcp 2.2 compliant, would you still purchase one of them? Or would you consider them obsolete out of the box and pass? I would not want to lose the switching pass through nor the processor's gui by going direct to the projector...among the other obvious limitations...no hdr, 50/60 4:4:4 etc...

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That would end my interest.
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For those of you interested in the new batch of object audio processors: Datasat RS20i, Trinnov Altitude, future Classe, and 160, if they only had the 9 gbps chips, but were hdcp 2.2 compliant, would you still purchase one of them? Or would you consider them obsolete out of the box and pass? I would not want to lose the switching pass through nor the processor's gui by going direct to the projector...among the other obvious limitations...no hdr, 50/60 4:4:4 etc...
I would bet that DATASAT would do an update (hardware) to accommodate any future uber important HDMI specs. I believe I was told it would have a shelf life of at least 10 years or more of sound format and "other" feature updates. Another reason why you don't lose sleep over this purchase.


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I'll be curious as to whether the MX160 has any sonic improvements over the MX151. Or, is it just an MX151 with a few more features?

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I'm guessing similar, as it is very high with the 151. The added D150 style Dac is interesting, though some don't like going from analog back to digital domain for RP - this never bothered me.

I'd like to see if they made changes to how multiple subs could be configured, vs the aux bi-amp approach of the 151.

Unlike the 8802, it also appears that it doesn't even have options for wides, unless this is configurable in the software and uses one of the top out pairs. I would generally use four heights over two heights + wides anyway for now, until 9 bed speakers become a little more mainstream and I can have all six running.

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Has anyone heard any new info from your dealers re the 160? For a processor supposedly coming any day, there is virtually no new or public info out there.
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Apparently this is not yet ready for pre-order in Canada, at least from the two Platinum dealers I inquired from.

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Curious, are the 18 gbps hdmi chips readily available in quantity now vs the 10.2 gbps chip set? How much is the price difference between the cost of these two chip sets? Anyone care to take a guess?
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Cannot be much at all given the outpouring new avr's at far less cost - as long as the backbone bandwidth is there it should be a no brainier

I hope the delay is not because mcintosh is going with 10.2 gbps HDMI - would be one of the top 5 dumb things I've heard in this hobby I think...

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With McIntosh's platform typically being non-modular, and difficult to upgrade, that would be beyond short sighted. I would welcome a delay if it increased the chances of the 160 having the 18gbps chip set with 2.0a.

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