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post #841 of 869 Old 07-17-2015, 06:55 AM
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You should find a new dealer...what a maroon....
I assume you mean moron. While I don't have the expertise to agree or disagree, care to enlighten me (us) as to why that is your opinion?
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Maroon is urban slang to describe someone so dim-witted they could not actually spell moron correctly, so it is used with reasonable accuracy here.

When someone claims an industry standard technology, in development for years, and now common on almost any high end, mid range, and even a good percentage of entry level products, has been tested as reliable up to a one foot cable distance, doesn't even the faint smell of cow dung waft up?

Rather, perhaps that someone is trying obfuscate the fact that the manufacturer screwed up by omitting essential technology, that absent, renders the product at the bottom end of a technology bell curve when, from a cost perspective, it should be built to deliver core functionality for several years?

Basic 4k blu ray will get by with 10.2, but 60 frame, deeper color depth, HDR, and other forthcoming features will need 18
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End of August perhaps?
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End of August perhaps?
I checked with my dealer a couple of days ago, and he was told by McIntosh that the first 50 MX160's would be shipping in August. No, he didn't specify which year.

More seriously, he said mine would be one of that first 50, and he hopes to get it by the last week of this month. Fingers crossed.

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I checked with my dealer a couple of days ago, and he was told by McIntosh that the first 50 MX160's would be shipping in August. No, he didn't specify which year.

More seriously, he said mine would be one of that first 50, and he hopes to get it by the last week of this month. Fingers crossed.
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McIntosh MX160

4K Ultra HD A/V Processor – Available to Pre-Order


The MX160 audio/video processor brings McIntosh-quality 4K to your home theater for the first time ever.
The newest MX-series processor supports the latest in digital audio and video technologies available and yet to come.
This new audio/video processor supports:
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MSRP is $14,000.

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It looks like 9GHz HDMI 2.0 can do 2160p60 at 8 bit 4:2:0, 2160p24/30 at 10 bit 4:4:4. I can guarantee you actual film discs will be encoded in 2160p24 at 10 bit 4:2:0.


I am more interested in finding out if this is a 11ch or 12ch without subs. The back pic shows 11.5 (lfe+4 aux). Can you assign one of those aux to be VOG? Denon and Marantz have 2 lfe outputs(11.2) each and in case you want VOG, you switch one of the two SW outputs to a VOG ch for 12.1. Another matter is do I really need Auro 3D? There are a handful discs in Auro 3D and none interest me so far. Will atmos and x be dominating on most uhd bds? I am interested to know because then I will decide how many amps I need

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MSRP is $14,000.

Oh my that's a bit rich for my blood these days

Does anyone have a demo setup that I could listen to in Southern California?
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Maroon is urban slang to describe someone so dim-witted they could not actually spell moron correctly, so it is used with reasonable accuracy here.

When someone claims an industry standard technology, in development for years, and now common on almost any high end, mid range, and even a good percentage of entry level products, has been tested as reliable up to a one foot cable distance, doesn't even the faint smell of cow dung waft up?

Rather, perhaps that someone is trying obfuscate the fact that the manufacturer screwed up by omitting essential technology, that absent, renders the product at the bottom end of a technology bell curve when, from a cost perspective, it should be built to deliver core functionality for several years?

Basic 4k blu ray will get by with 10.2, but 60 frame, deeper color depth, HDR, and other forthcoming features will need 18

Don't know about it being urban slang, but I always associated it with this guy...


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Oh my that's a bit rich for my blood these days

Does anyone have a demo setup that I could listen to in Southern California?
Mine, too.
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Mine, too.
Spare a thought for us down in Oz... I'm told RRP will be $A25,000 thanks to our screwed exchange rate and the middleman importer adding his bit

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Same here for us Canucks. With the cad-use exchange the msrp would be close to $20k!!!
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I have the oppurtunity to purchase a Marantz AV8802A, but i would obviously have to sell my MX. You think I should go for it? Is sound quality inline between the two?

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I have the oppurtunity to purchase a Marantz AV8802A, but i would obviously have to sell my MX. You think I should go for it? Is sound quality inline between the two?

I gave up my MX-150 2 months ago for the 8802. I finally got to move all of my equipment into a new house and dedicated HT. I took the opp to add in rears and ATMOS speakers. Only thing left is that I'm waiting on a second sub. So far in this new setup, for which I've also switched to good quality XLRs, I'm am quite impressed with the results. Whether the new MX-160 would be better yet again is another story I guess. But so far no longer missing my MX-150.
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I gave up my MX-150 2 months ago for the 8802. I finally got to move all of my equipment into a new house and dedicated HT. I took the opp to add in rears and ATMOS speakers. Only thing left is that I'm waiting on a second sub. So far in this new setup, for which I've also switched to good quality XLRs, I'm am quite impressed with the results. Whether the new MX-160 would be better yet again is another story I guess. But so far no longer missing my MX-150.

Audyssey vs RP?


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I'm a big RP fan personally, have another surround system that also uses it and 2ch amp with it as well. I was skeptical going back to Audyssey. So far with the pro kit for setup and a good room, its performing very well. I never got to compare RP in this new room unfortunately. I am very curious about the MX-160 with the cost being the biggest obstacle.
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Any news? Delayed again?

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Yup...don't hold your breath for it. Glad I didn't sell my 151 yet as I would have been without a processor for many months. Hopefully the delays mean specs have changed and they came to their senses regarding the HDMI.

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They are probably waiting on 18gbps chips at least on a couple of inputs and the outputs.

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I will gladly wait if that's what they are up to.
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I gave up my MX-150 2 months ago for the 8802. I finally got to move all of my equipment into a new house and dedicated HT. I took the opp to add in rears and ATMOS speakers. Only thing left is that I'm waiting on a second sub. So far in this new setup, for which I've also switched to good quality XLRs, I'm am quite impressed with the results. Whether the new MX-160 would be better yet again is another story I guess. But so far no longer missing my MX-150.
Thanks for providing your experience. I decided to holf off from any proc changes for now.

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Thanks for providing your experience. I decided to holf off from any proc changes for now.

No probs. Guess we won't be holding our breath for the MX-160 to arrive. Meanwhile I'll kick back and keep enjoying my 7.2.4 system while McIntosh get there sh*t together...

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It is a difficult time to build an Ht around Uhd and atmos/x/auro

I can't figure how many 18gbps capable hdmi inputs I am going to need. All I know is initially we will get av ssp/vps with 1 or 2 hdmi inputs which are capable of 18gbps input. The rest of the 4-6 inputs will most likely be 10gbps only.

Almost certainly one 18gbps input will be reserved for the uhd bd player. Will the initial uhd bd players have most of the popular streaming apps available? Will I need another box for netflix, vudu, amazon etc? That's another 18gbps input if you want 10 bit video. How about set top boxes? Uhd tivo?

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It is a difficult time to build an Ht around Uhd and atmos/x/auro

I can't figure how many 18gbps capable hdmi inputs I am going to need. All I know is initially we will get av ssp/vps with 1 or 2 hdmi inputs which are capable of 18gbps input. The rest of the 4-6 inputs will most likely be 10gbps only.

Almost certainly one 18gbps input will be reserved for the uhd bd player. Will the initial uhd bd players have most of the popular streaming apps available? Will I need another box for netflix, vudu, amazon etc? That's another 18gbps input if you want 10 bit video. How about set top boxes? Uhd tivo?
Well, all inputs should by 2.0a capable. If you're saying that McIntosh would limit it two one or two in the hasty re-do, they are more rudderless than I thought. Virtual any device at a fraction of the price is outfitted with all 2.0a HDMI. How could they possibly not afford to do the same on a $14k device?
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I totally agree with you but I think at least some of those claimed hdmi 2.0a devices have only 1-3 of their inputs true hdmi 2.0a and hdcp 2.2 capable. I honestly need only 1 hdmi 2.0a /hdcp 2.2 input as I hope to use the new lumagen pro for video. Either way I am not buying a single thing until uhd bd players are released and I know exactly what specs I need.

What do you guys think the mcintosh uhd bd player will be based of? Mc isn't a part of d&m anymore, can we expect an oppo based machine(i mean this in a positive way)? Is mcintosh generally fast to adapt to new disc formats? Can we expect the mvp901 soon after uhd bd players hit the market?

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I read somewhere in these forums that Oppo will not be releasing a UHD player until late 2016 or early 2017. If the McIntosh version is based on the Oppo platform then you are looking at an additional 6 months+ after the Oppo release.

My guess would be Panasonic, Sony and Samsung release immediately, with moderately priced players, with a high end Pioneer elite piece released shortly thereafter. Maybe we will learn more at the IFA show in Germany later in the week, or at the U.S. Show in October. I have always liked the high end Pioneer players, but if McIntosh built a killer piece, I would be very tempted, as long as the streaming capability was on par with the competition, which is something both Pioneer and McIntosh past players have neglected.
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The type of people who by the 160 will likely own reference displays. Samsung and Sony high end displays now come with HDR. Even Oled, which are not known for high nits output, are soon releasing the HDR capable 9500 Oled flat 65" model. Projectors will take more time.

McIntosh may have thought they could get away with HDMI 2.0 to cover the UHD resolution, fps spec, and basic color specs, but they have certainly underestimated the quick adoption of the HDR standard. If the delay has nothing to do with the implementation of the 18 gbps chipset, then they have really lost their way. I would think all inputs and outputs will either be 10.2 gbps or 18, and not a combination of both. If a last minute "fix" allowed only a few inputs and 1 output to be 18, then that would certainly be better than none at all.
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A couple of months ago I bought a MX151 new in the box for less than half of retail from a guy who decided to order a MX160. He is a huge McIntosh fan and had the MX151 laying around unopened for a couple of months (I verified the build date with McIntosh). He was all fired up for the new unit because it was due in June and the MX151 had to go!... I wonder if he wishes he held on to the MX151 for a while?

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