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Wookii 01-29-2014 07:32 AM

Datasat appear to have launched a new cheaper price processor . . .







djnickuk 01-29-2014 07:43 AM

£10k plus £3k for Auro3D

thebland 01-29-2014 07:44 AM

Digital outputs? DB-25?

That's $21.5K USD!

djnickuk 01-29-2014 07:51 AM

It's a cut down version, so I don't think it has digi outs or db25 connectors.

Also, £10k equates to $16557. But almost certainly this will be less in the states than in UK as is always the way!

Wookii 01-29-2014 07:55 AM

Jees, that's not much cheaper than the RS20i then! £3k to add Auro? Ouch! I hope the update to the RS20i doesn't come in at that kind of level!

djnickuk 01-29-2014 08:34 AM

13.2 outputs, IR remote. Auro extra. £10k inc vat is a very nice price point.

Wookii 01-29-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by djnickuk View Post

13.2 outputs, IR remote. Auro extra. £10k inc vat is a very nice price point.

Yeah, as I said on one of the other five thread we both seem to be posting on Nick, I was probably missing the VAT off the RS20i price when comparing in my mind. Andy says that the LS10 has no Dirac though also, just PEQ . . .

SoundChex 01-29-2014 09:36 AM

Unfortunately, we still do not yet seem to have an Auro-3D capable AVR or PrePro at a price point likely to sell sufficient units to create a real demand for Auro-3D BD movies...?! cool.gif
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Wookii 01-29-2014 09:42 AM

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Unfortunately, we still do not yet seem to have an Auro-3D capable AVR or PrePro at a price point likely to sell sufficient units to create a real demand for Auro-3D BD movies...?! cool.gif
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That'll take time . . these things take a while to trickle down . . . I remember when 50" TV's were £8k each, now you can get them for a 20th of that. This is how new tech works . . .

djnickuk 01-29-2014 10:15 AM

Well storm / dms / auro have their new avr. And there was mention of Auro working with Denon and a few others. So I say in a year we will see some more reasonably priced offerings for the masses.

SoundChex 01-29-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

Unfortunately, we still do not yet seem to have an Auro-3D capable AVR or PrePro at a price point likely to sell sufficient units to create a real demand for Auro-3D BD movies...?! cool.gif
That'll take time . . these things take a while to trickle down [. . .]

Auro Technologies 1/7/2014 Press Release (link) says "Over 50 international movies, 100 music albums recorded in the Auro-3D® format, and 2 blockbuster games will be released in the course of 2014" . . . so I do think we might see Auro-3D decoders priced around $2000 MSRP within the next 12 months... cool.gif
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stephenbr 01-30-2014 04:05 AM

Looks the goods - I note preliminary specs indicate HDMI 1.4a. Will be interested in seeing just how much is different (if any) to the RS20i around DSPs, DAC etc.

LJG 01-30-2014 07:33 AM

Is there any further word on the Storm Audio SSP-16-3D processor. I believe the retail on this piece is around $10,000. Might be a good alternative to the RS20I, and LS10, for 3D auro.

SoundChex 01-30-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by LJG View Post

Is there any further word on the Storm Audio SSP-16-3D processor. I believe the retail on this piece is around $10,000. Might be a good alternative to the RS20I, and LS10, for 3D auro.

The StormAudio website also lists (but without details|pictures) an SSP 12-3D processor... cool.gif
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HFGuy 01-30-2014 09:38 AM

Shame they still don't offer the old Datasat .... the $6500 price tag was alot easier to swallow.

djnickuk 01-30-2014 09:40 AM

Both the storm audio pros are more comparible to the ls10 as they don't have Dirac, only peq for room correction.

LJG 01-30-2014 09:58 AM

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Shame they still don't offer the old Datasat .... the $6500 price tag was alot easier to swallow.

I think the AP20 is still available for "professional use"

HFGuy 01-30-2014 10:00 AM

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I think the AP20 is still available for "professional use"

You still have to find someone willing to sell it to you for "professional use".

sdurani 01-30-2014 10:58 AM

No Dirac? That's a surprise. The other lower priced alternative to Dirac just got delayed. Though that's not a surprise.

http://emotivalounge.proboards.com/thread/35391/expectations-emotiva-xmc-1-update

djnickuk 01-30-2014 02:59 PM

I remember speaking with one of the guys from Dirac and he was explaining that the version to be found in the new Emotiva product is a limited, cut down version that fits within its processing abilities.

I guess that Datasat feel that they want a slice of the £10k market but would rather offer a very power peq to that of a cut down version of Dirac.

With the LS10 one could add a Trinnov, albeit using the analogue inputs, and come close to the cost of the RS20i. This would also bring up the dac stages to be somewhat comparable to the RS20i.

Or of course Carls DL2/3 when it finally ships.

LJG 01-30-2014 04:06 PM

Ideal scaled back version would be Auro 3D processing no Dacs at all, just digital output....For us Trinnov guys. Also according to my calculations I don't think $18K for the Trinnov plus $16.5 K for LS10 is close to RS20i price....

Or how about the option of an RS20I without Dacs and without Dirac.

Or a Theta CBIV with Auro 3D

stephenbr 01-30-2014 08:56 PM

It is said that the LS10 will be the first in a series of L-grade home theatre components for Datasat.

SoundChex 01-31-2014 12:46 AM

Inside CI news item with good LS10 rear apron picture...

http://www.insideci.co.uk/news/datasat-outs-ls10-audio-processor,-intros-auro-3d.aspx
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LJG 01-31-2014 11:12 AM

Does anyone happen to know what the price is for the Barco AP24-3D cinema processor?

ceenhad 01-31-2014 11:39 AM

A lot more than the LS10 that is certain ;-)

LJG 01-31-2014 12:37 PM

Thanks Neil

sdurani 01-31-2014 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

Inside CI news item with good LS10 rear apron picture...
Nice find! Interesting to see no RCA outs, only XLR.



From the output labels, looks like it has dedicated jacks for the standard 7-speaker layout and 4 heights. There are 2 dual-purpose jacks where the user has to choose between left & right wide speakers OR centre height + VOG. The two wides are for Neo:X while the latter two complete the Auro layout.

yetis 01-31-2014 01:47 PM

Any ideas what the Trinnov Altitude Av-pre-amp? Trinnov home theater?

RUR 01-31-2014 02:50 PM

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Any ideas what the Trinnov Altitude Av-pre-amp? Trinnov home theater?

http://www.trinnov.com/tri_news/trinnov-at-ise-2014/ All there is, at this point.

yetis 01-31-2014 02:57 PM

The more I read, I suspect will be more a competitor for the 20 and not the 10.


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