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Simple Question. What is the most affordabel 3-chip DMD / I would like to know so I can consider purchasing one.

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Maybe you could first start making a (short) list of all 3-DMD pj currently available, then pick the cheapest one.

Rumors say Optoma will have a consumer oriented 3-dmd pj in about few months. If true, then there will be many more in about 12-18 months (guessing, of course).

Given the scenario, I would choose the "best" mono-dmd now (seems to be Sharp 9000 with an external deinterlacer/scaler), then upgrade to a 3-dmd when the competition will make their prices affordable... supposing DLP will not be obsolete vs LCOS or GLV ;)

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What is your definition of "affordable"?

I have seen the Runco VX-5 3 chip DLP and it is a KILLER. But it's also $98k! I don't that there are any 3 chippers less than about $60k with a lens.

BTW when you add the cost of a good external processor like a NRS to a Sharp 9000 you end up costing as much as a Marantz, Seleco or DWIN, all of which have much superior optics and aa seaaled optical path.

"Rumors" have had a $5k 16:9 just around the corner for almost a year now. So far we are all waiting. If someone, anyone, brings out a 3 chipper it will NOT be cheap. After all the Vision 1 is "consumer oriented" and its definately not "affordable", at least not by my definition.
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Well, I have seen more affordable CHRISTIEDIGITAL projectors. You might wanna try out there website. I have a friend who works in a theater as a projectionist. He told me that the DLP projector they use is a Christie. Of course its $250,000. I visited their website and noticed their VISTA series of projectors at $31,000.



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The Vista X3 looks plenty interesting. 3-5,000 lumens and 1024x768 resolution. Where did you get the $31k price.

Have you also looked at the Digital Projection 3 chippers? When looking at their prices remember that their website specs prices WITHOUT a lens and their lenses are plenty expensive.
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"Rumors say Optoma will have a consumer oriented 3-dmd pj in about few months."

Where did you hear this?!

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For the mid 40k price range the NEC is the only 3 chip at 4000 lumens that uses the black chip along with their own DC circuit that offers custom gamma curves that emulate a film source. I sold Christie/DP/Runco but the nec truly has the best picture for film reproduction.
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I saw the NEC at work at the smithsonian. Wonderful!!!!

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If you look around, you will be able to find a used Christie Vista X3 with new lamps for around $15,000 and used Runco's (same projector with a few mods) for $17,000.

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NEC's don't have enough contrast IMO. Very good in other areas however.

According to Peter Putman (www.projectorexpert.com), a company was supposed to be debuting a "affordable" 3-chip projector in August 2002. Should be about the $20K+ range. He saw a special screening at Infocomm and didn't elaborate further in his Infocomm report.

I would await that announcement by whoever it will be. Sorry I can't tell you exactly who it will be.

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The black chip unit is brand new and has blacks on par with the D Cinema 200k units. Kodak just put this in their theater's down the street from me. All the manufactures showed up to show off their best for the bid. NEC won. They also have a 4kx2k something Dila they are working with.

Just think all this right down the street from me. I wonder if they ever forget to turn on the alarm system?
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Hermann we were selling the christie X3 ( B stock right from Christie with warranty) a few weeks ago for $10K.

Maybe I should have bought one at that price.
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I found the $31,995 on the Christie DIgital Projector On www.Projectorcentral.com. Does anyone know where I can buy a used 3 chip Christie Digital for under $20,000.


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Does anyone know where I can buy a used 3 chip Christie Digital for under $20,000.
Some used Electrohome (now Christie Digital) projectors in the VistaPro and VistaGRAPHX series are sometimes sold for under $4K on eBay.
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Alan,

I contacted Jason too late for your $10,000 Christie Vista X3 deal. Yes, you should have bought one at that price.

ApoDoc, as of last week, http:// www.m-media.com/specials/ had a used one with a new lamp for $10,999 without the lens. The lenses cost another $3,000-$5,000, depending upon what lens you want.

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Are these in mint condition and if so Are they reliable?


Next questions. Is this suitable for a 92" Draper Screen I have in my current theater?

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"Rumors say Optoma will have a consumer oriented 3-dmd pj in about few months."

Where did you hear this?!

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Somewhere in the Video section Forum of www.homecinema-fr.com
As said, a rumor...
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Another very popular HT manufacture ( who wants to remain anonymous at this time) will release a 3 chip next year built for HT and it will be priced right, or I should say cheaper than all current crop 3 chips. I believe this will be a killer unit.

If you have time on your side I think your dollar will be better spent if you wait a little but isn't that always the case:)
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Well who's the company.
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Once again according to Peter Putman's Infocomm report,

"And I had an offsite demo of a 'breakthrough' 3-chip DLP installation projector that weighs less than 50 pounds (without lens). The price is competitive with large LCD installation projectors, and you'll hear all about it when the final announcement is made in September."

So he said September not August. Hope that help.

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ApoDoc,

IMHO, you would be better served purchasing a used (preferably refurbished) projector from Christie Digital. Which you can always resell to me at a later date so you can purchase the "Next Great Thing" (tm)

All kidding aside, now is a tough time to pick a projector. My 1998 3-chip is a great projector and I will continue to be happy with it until a true HD 3-chip is available for around $10,000. Right now there are some great deals on used xga and sxga projectors which will absolutely blow your mind.

The real question is do you want to wait for the next generation, compromise with a 1-chip, OR purchase a used 3-chip which you can easily resell? Tough choices.. :D

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