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The McIntosh MX160 A/V Processor Owner's Thread

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The MX160 A/V Processor is teeming with all the latest home theater technologies to give you a luxury entertainment experience in the comfort of your home. It supports new object-based 3D audio formats including Dolby® Atmos and Auro-3D® while RoomPerfect™ room correction technology will adjust the audio to the specific acoustics of your room – further enhancing the sonic innovations of these newest audio codecs. The MX160 is also compatible with Dolby TrueHD, DTS-HD Master Audio™ and other popular legacy formats so you can continue to enjoy your existing DVD and Blu-ray™ movie collection in surround sound. Regardless the format, all audio will be processed according to legendary McIntosh sound quality and performance standards not found in any other home theater processor.

Not to forget the latest in video advancements, the MX160 fully supports 4K Ultra HD native sources as well as upconverting lower resolutions to 4K Ultra HD for the best possible picture quality. Its 8 HDMI inputs and 4 outputs provide plenty of options to connect your existing and future HD and 4K Ultra HD sources. 3D video pass-through will put you right in the action of your favorite 3D movies. An HDBaseT output is included to provide degradation-free, uncompressed digital video and audio over long cable runs between the MX160 and your projector or TV.

To fully immerse you in your home theater experience, the MX160 features balanced outputs for 11.1 (also known as 7.1.4) audio channels plus 4 auxiliary channels for use in bi-amping your speakers or driving additional subwoofers. For digital music lovers, the MX160 features 4 optical, 3 coaxial and 1 USB inputs that accepts up to 24-bit/192kHz signals plus 1 XLR connector. For analog audio, there are 2 sets of stereo balanced inputs, 4 sets of stereo unbalanced inputs, a dedicated phono input and a set of 7.1 multichannel unbalanced inputs. All analog and digital connections can be custom named for simplified system operation and matched in volume level for a smooth transition between sources. Bass and treble controls offer further audio fine-tuning.

The classic black glass front panel, knobs, illuminated logo and custom machined brushed aluminum end caps make the MX160 a rousing addition to any home theater and will have you enjoying all your favorite movies well into the future. It can be paired with a variety of McIntosh amplifiers and speakers​ for a complete home theater system. Contact your local dealer to learn more.

Link to McIntosh main page:
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MX160 A/V Processor Speaker Setup and Bass Management Guide:
http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Produ...Management.pdf

Connectivity



Multi-Channel Outputs Balanced

11.1 (also known as 7.1.4)
plus 4 auxiliary for bi-amping or multiple subwoofers

Multi-Channel Inputs Unbalanced

7.1

Multi-Channel Outputs Unbalanced

0

Stereo Inputs Balanced

2

Stereo Inputs Unbalanced

5
(including 1 Moving Magnet Phono)

Stereo Outputs Unbalanced

1 (Zone B)

Digital Coaxial Input

3

Digital Coaxial Output

1 (Zone B)

Digital Optical Input

4

Digital Optical Output

0

AES/EBU Balanced Input

1

HDMI Input

8 (HDCP 2.2)

HDMI Output

4 (HDCP 2.2)


HDBT Output

1

USB

2 Type A
1 Type B for digital audio (2.0, 24-bit/192kHz Asynchronous)

Component Input

0

Component Output

0

Composite Input

0

Composite Output

0

S-Video Input

0

S-Video Output

0

Subwoofer 2 Output

4 auxiliary outputs

Network Connection

2

Max # of audio channels in Zone A

16

Additional Zone Outputs

Zone B: Analog and digital audio outputs

Advanced Connections

Ethernet Web interface and firmware update, IP-based control



Processing



Total Harmonic Distortion (DSP Bypass)

0.005%

Dolby Processing

Atmos/True HD/Digital, EX/ProLogic IIx

DTS Processing

HD Master & High Res. Audio/ES/96/24, Discrete & Matrix6.1, Neo:X


Auro Processing

Auro 3D, Auro-Matic, Auro 9.1, 10.1, 11.1

Pure Stereo DSP Bypass Mode

No

Video Scaling

4K Upconversion



Control



Third Party Control

RS232, Web IP, IR Input

Tone Controls

Bass and Treble with adjustable frequency

OSD Overlay on HDMI Output

Yes


Input-Output Format Indicators

9 in and 9 out

Control of McIntosh Sources

Yes, wired with data cables



General Specifications



Channel Formats

11.1 (7.1.4), 7.1, 5.1, Stereo

DSP Room Correction

RoomPerfect, 1/12 octave

Microphone and stand included

Yes


Network Features

Ethernet Control and Setup

Unique Crossover Frequency, Each Speaker

Yes

Special Features

Up to 121 input capability, 4 assignable auxiliary channels



Apple Compatibility

Compatible with the following devices with the latest Apple OS installed.



AirPlay Connection or USB Connection

None

AirPlay Connection only

None


USB Connection only

None



Weights & Dimensions



Dimensions (W x H x D)

17-1/2" (44.45cm) x 7-5/8" (19.37cm) (including feet) x 19-1/2" (49.53cm) (including front panel, knobs, and rear panel connections)

Weight

32 lbs (14.5 kg)


Shipping Weight

56 lbs (25.4 kg)


LATEST FIRMWARE: V2.08 Pending new ones.

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With new updates like 2.08 hitting the MX160 is HDR compatible. I was able to confirm this with using both he Samsung model and Panasonic model. Both used with my Sony VPL-VW5000ES and Sony and Samsung HDR TVs.

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I call the Samsung player a 4K server since I mainly use it for the demo clips like Oregon from the UHD TV pack. For experiment purposes I was testing discs like Tarzan and Deadpool. We use the Panasonic as our primary UHD player.
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Can someone confirm mx-160 has no voice of god channel?

Also confirm the aux 1-4 are the same capabilities as in mx-150/151? In other words, they are used for bi-amping and/or adding subwoofers.
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Can someone confirm mx-160 has no voice of god channel?

Also confirm the aux 1-4 are the same capabilities as in mx-150/151? In other words, they are used for bi-amping and/or adding subwoofers.
There is a TOP or VOG (Aux3 with latest firmware).
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I will discuss my experiences eventually soon. Stay tuned.

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Thanks for starting this thread, Joe. Looking forward to your review.
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I can confirm bi-ampking speakers can be done using the GUI, though the current manual does not give you any guidance
I had to call someone at MCIntosh to get information

Is there anyone else monitoring this forum that has the MX 160 ? I think I bought the FIRST one in CHICAGO

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Macintosh MX 160

I can confirm bi-ampking speakers can be done using the GUI, though the current manual does not give you any guidance
I had to call someone at MCIntosh to get information

Is there anyone else monitoring this forum that has the MX 160 ? I think I bought the FIRST one in CHICAGO

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I will add a quick observation. Thanksgiving Day. We were watching the Lions and Eagles football game. Sure I have heard proper placement of the broadcast ambiences but never so clearly. My Dad and I were sitting front row. We heard the QB talking and barking out signals like we were on the sideline. The second the ball was snapped we could hear the initial impact of pads and helmets and growls! After the play you can hear behind you and above you the PA announcer. The crowd is all over the place. They get louder with a good or great home team play. Now here's the cool thing. During one of the time outs we could hear the stadium music perfectly clear. My Wife called down and asked if we were listening to music. That's how clear it was coming in. My other guests made comments like who needs to go to the game when you feel like you are already there- here? It's like sitting in the owner's box with the large screen in our faces and the amazing sound from the MX160. Boy am I anxious to get my ears on a newer firmware! Keep up the great work Chuck and McIntosh.

My Review is coming along nicely and I have plenty to say about Blu ray, music, video games and Auro-3D and Atmos! More to come!
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We had a very similar experience watching and listening to that football broadcast as well with our MX160.

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Can someone confirm mx-160 has no voice of god channel?

Also confirm the aux 1-4 are the same capabilities as in mx-150/151? In other words, they are used for bi-amping and/or adding subwoofers.
There is a TOP or VOG (Aux3 with latest firmware).
This is great. Thank you. So you can select wides, different configurations of subs, front heights(including front height center) and top(vog) using the 4 aux.

Maximum configuration for auro 3d is 7ch + 4 height + front center + vog = 13.1. Mx-160 can do this plus 2 additional aux for wides or 2 additional subs.
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This is great. Thank you. So you can select wides, different configurations of subs, front heights(including front height center) and top(vog) using the 4 aux.

Maximum configuration for auro 3d is 7ch + 4 height + front center + vog = 13.1. Mx-160 can do this plus 2 additional aux for wides or 2 additional subs.
Can it do 9.2.4? I have 6 surrounds, with 4 atmos speakers. Also will there be a firmware upgrade for DTS-X?
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There will be a firmware early next year for DTS: X.

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Thank you for starting this thread. I am grateful for all the posts here and on the former mx150/151 thread. We mx160 owners have our work cut out for us, but it is a very impressive unit so far.
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I am in the market for a new 3D SSP [currently have the Marantz 7702 but I am no longer interested in an Audyssey solution] but I know nothing about the MX-160 and Room Perfect so just a couple of quick questions: I am considering, in addition to the MX160, the new Arcam units (Dirac based), the "eventual" new Emotiva SSP [16 channels of Dirac], and if I win the lottery, the Datasat RS20i.

1. Are the target curves adjustable?

2. Are trim and distance adjustable after RP does it's thing?

3. Since there is still no (or at least not much) source material for Auro, my interest is Atmos. What is the maximum number of Atmos channels that can CURRENTLY be driven by the 160.

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I am having trouble sending audio through ARC with the 160.Only need it for Amazon Prime since its not available through Apple TV. Also, so you guys know a way to use the 160 as a pass through? My 121 was able to pass through the last input to the TV without taking the 121 out of standby.
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Officially unsubbed from the 150/151 thread and now subbed here
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Audioguy, I just switched from the AV7702 to the MX 160, night and day difference.

Also for all of you joining this thread there have been several discussion at the end of the MX 151 thread.

One more problem, not sure what is causing it, but as of yesterday the MX 160 is not turning on the MC 8207. Checked the connection everything is fine, don't know if it has anything to do with he Control4 remote.
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Fantastic!

For the price of tickets these days, it wouldn't take much to recoup the cost of this unit.

$1600 for 3 tickets, no parking for seats in top section 600 ish (row A) for Patriots/Texans in a few weeks.
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Audioguy, I just switched from the AV7702 to the MX 160, night and day difference.

Also for all of you joining this thread there have been several discussion at the end of the MX 151 thread.

One more problem, not sure what is causing it, but as of yesterday the MX 160 is not turning on the MC 8207. Checked the connection everything is fine, don't know if it has anything to do with he Control4 remote.
Since you said that you checked the connection and everything is fine, I am therefore assuming that the power control cable between the MX160 and MC8207 is still in place. That being the case, is the power switch on the MC8207 is the "On" position or the "Remote/Off" position? It should be in the "Remote/Off" position.

If it still doesn't come on when the MX160 is turned on, try moving the position of the "Auto Off" switch on the back of the MC8207 to the "Disable" position. See Page 13 of the MC8207 owner's manual for more info on that.

Hope this helps.

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Thanks John, yes the control cable is connected and the switch is set to remote. I will try your fix tonight, it has to be something simple.

One question for everyone with the MX 160, how long does it take for your unit to fully turn on, mine takes approximately 22 seconds, is that normal?
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Thanks John, yes the control cable is connected and the switch is set to remote. I will try your fix tonight, it has to be something simple.

One question for everyone with the MX 160, how long does it take for your unit to fully turn on, mine takes approximately 22 seconds, is that normal?
You're welcome. I am thinking the reset sequence for the Auto Off described in the MC8207 manual may do the trick. If that doesn't work, try unplugging the power cord from the rear of the MX160 for 15-20 seconds to reset its microprocessors.

Yes, approximately 22 seconds is how long it takes my MX160 to fully turn on. We set my Control4 driver to wait until 25 seconds after issuing the discrete "Power On" command before sending an input change command to work around the long boot-up time.

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Yes we had to do the same thing with the Control4. I mentioned to Ron over at McIntosh to see if they can in there next Firmware update put in something that would adjust the volume to a certain setting every time the unit is turned on just like my Marantz did. That way I am not scrabbling to lower the volume if I left it on to high the last time I turned it off.
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Yes we had to do the same thing with the Control4. I mentioned to Ron over at McIntosh to see if they can in there next Firmware update put in something that would adjust the volume to a certain setting every time the unit is turned on just like my Marantz did. That way I am not scrabbling to lower the volume if I left it on to high the last time I turned it off.
It would indeed be a big plus to have a default volume level option like the MX150 and MX151 do.

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Can the auxiliary outputs be used for extra surround/height channels?
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Can the auxiliary outputs be used for extra surround/height channels?
At this time we are still waiting for newer updates which will unlock the full potential of the 160. It is not yet known the capability of the Aux Outputs. No worries though the minute we learn we will post here.

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Thanks i will anxiously be waiting!
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Good news / Bad news.

Good news, last night I watched Mad Max Fury Road, where as the movie is pretty stupid, the special effects were great and the MX 160 sounded fantastic. The MX 160 brought out every possible sound and was incredibly clean, this is a great demo movie, little violent.

Bad news, for some reason the 160 decided to shut down on me about 20 minutes into the movie, no clue why. Everything else stayed on but not the 160. Turned it back on and tried to go to the menu on my tablet, the home screen would pop up but would not allow me to do anything on it, it was frozen. I rebooted the tablet but no luck.
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