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Out performing a LEX, well it has to be something special...Not sure how long I can wait to hear the review, then I'm off for a demo....It sounds so promising and I for one is very willing to part with my hard earned wonga...:)

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If it does HT like the Lex and has the bass management and 2 channel sound of the Theta or better, I'm in.

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If it does HT like the Lex and has the bass management and 2 channel sound of the Theta or better, I'm in.
i doubt it's any better than the lex combo in ht...although i d be in too if it only was on par with the lex
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I'd be happy with the performance of the Lex too. I just want it to be a better music preamp.

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I am at the point of purchase and need to decide between the Lexicon MC8 and LX7 combo or Halcro SSP80 and MC70. I have heard both and both impress me, but can find no one who sells both to compare in one location. I will be using in a dedicated home theatre, so while I may listen to some music, movies are my passion. I will be using Martin Logan Ascent i for the fronts, Martin Logan Theatre for centre and Martin Logan Passage for rears. Anyone care to offer their opinon.
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Hi Chris,

I am like you. The products you have mentioned are the exact ones I am interested in purchasing. Again, like yourself, I am purely a movie fan, so 2 channel stereo has no bearing on my buying choice. I am sure you won't have a problem finding a retailer in Victoria that would help you A/B compare - if you do a shopping trip to NSW is calling, better still, drop into Adelaide and we will go look around, we could find a good retailer way out in the bush lol :).

According to a source at Halcro in Adelaide 'The Halcro Logic HT products are the finest in the world', read into that what you will..:)


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Hi Mark,

The problem retailers have in VIC is lack of stock and when I can find a retailer who carriers Halcro, they do not carry Lexicon. The Martin Logan speakers I am already sold on, as I love the transparency of the fronts and centre channel (plus I can't afford Krell speakers). I am very keen to see reviews in leading international magazines, but nothing seems to be coming through. I am being told on the one hand to consider the reputation of Lexicon and the $$$ they place into R&D and on the other hand you look at the specs of the Halcro and they look very impressive (esp. the video upscaling and inclusion of HDMI). I am a little out of my depth on these two products and it represents a significant investment.

I look forward to the reviews, comments and comparisons.

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Still waiting for the review ;-)

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It is basically done, and I will TRY to get it up tonight before I leave for CEDIA...if not, it will be when I return this weekend.

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I am down to the last nail on my hands. At this rate, I'd be gnawing away at the bone soon in antisipation of this review....lol

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Just giving you a hard time Doc.

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i have been lurking around this thread since it began. last year should have been my pre-pro upgrade year but after searching nothing set my heart on fire. halcro finally appears to hold the promise of what i want in my next pre-pro. so count me in amongst those anxious to learn how this unit stacks up.
last year wasn't a complete loss though since i did something i should have done years ago; acoustic treatments. the resultant improvements made it easier to wait until now but i don't know how much longer can i hang on......................... :D

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DocDVD,

Is the Halcro 80 or 100 "better sounding" in home theater mode than a Theta Casablanca III with Xtreme DACS, or are you talking about a Casablanca III or II or Superior Dacs, what config, etc?

I am very interested in the 80, but how upgradable is it? I want to do 7.1 or greater for HT only.

I'd be interested in hearing how they differ in Home Theater.

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Hi Stieger,

Reading through the brief literature (on the Halcro site) and speaking to a Halcro rep, I believe the SSP80 and SSP100 both have the same ability to be upgraded. The main difference in the two units is the number of HDMI outputs, LCD panel on the front and upscaling for the SSP100 is 1080p, as opposed to 1080i on the SSP80. The cost is about $3500AUS between the two and given the projector I am considering is the Runco cl710 (1080i), I am not sure that the SSP100 is worth the difference. Happy to be proven wrong.

DocDVD, don't leave us until the weekend... PLEASE!! I don't know that I can hold my breath that long. Just teasing :)

I am just as curious to see if Halcro are any closer to making a decision on who to support for the next round of DVD, BluRay or HD-DVD. That will be my next purchase after I get the home theatre set up.

Cheers,

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I have no nails left, apart from the ones on my toes and I am saving them for the Australia vs England cricket match at the Oval...In other words, Doc please hurry... :p

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I saw the Halcro units at CEDIA today. It looks like the SSP100 is the model to get. It has the upscaler which the SSP80 does not as well as all balanced inputs for all channels versus just the front two channels. the scaler will upconvert the signal to HDMI. Halcro said the SSP100 will do a 1080p signal pass thru if needed and both units are upgradable as need arises, I specifically asked in regards to the the new DVD formats. I am banking on the SSP100 before the price changes which they hinted about.
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Hey there Fedreams,

The Halcro literature states the SSP100 is upscaleable to 1080p and the SSP80 is upscaleable to 1080i. Not sure why you heard different. I agree balanced channels would be nice across all, but the SSP100 is AUS$15K and the SSP80 is AUS$3K less at AUS$12K. I am spending AUS$35K on my equipment and I am debating if that AUS$3K is not better spent somewhere else.

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Chris,

According to Halcro the upscaler was only on the SSP-100. I can double check on that. Before talking to them my understanding was that the only difference was the balanced channels and the monitor screen. For AUS$3K or US$2K that difference was not worth it either. But if it the difference is the scaler now that is a whole different story for me.

It maybe that the scalers are different in each unit. I try to clarify it today.
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I have to wait till next week to get a good demo, grrrr....According to the Halcro rep in Adelaide, the ssp100 is scalable to 1080p and the ssp80 was also scalable to 1080p (he was pretty confident on that). Furthermore, he pointed out that at the moment they don't have any intention of adding room correction as part of the auto calibration - as he eloquently pointed out, HALCRO make some of the best A/V gear in the world, so having no room correction was not a huge issue...

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Correction: The SSP100 has the scaler and the SSP80 does not. The SSP80 will upconvert to 1080p but does not have the scaler per Halcro.
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ah I stand corrected then lol....

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You may sit if it pleases you. Orthopedic shoes may help that problem, but I find that by sitting and listening to good music also helps.

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I wonder if Halcro has plans to support the new Dolby format announced at CEDIA.

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Hi folks,

The Halcro rep appears to use the word "scale to 1080p" as equal to "upconvert to 1080p."

What is the difference - scaling and upconverting? If the SSP80 will upconvert to 1080P, but not "scale" to 1080P, what's the difference, and is it even noticable for the extra $$$$ one must shell out for the SSP100?

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Hi folks,

The Halcro rep appears to use the word "scale to 1080p" as equal to "upconvert to 1080p."

What is the difference - scaling and upconverting? If the SSP80 will upconvert to 1080P, but not "scale" to 1080P, what's the difference, and is it even noticable for the extra $$$$ one must shell out for the SSP100?

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I asked the rep.....Yes they will add it.

I think for the added cost, buy a Lumagen and the SSP 80. The rep said the insides are identical.

Saw Theta. They had a failing Valis to show (screen on front was faulty). Saw 3 DVI ports on the back. Not a lot of action there. THe CB III is long in the tooth. Next year I bet they will have a new product to replace it.


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Steiger -
My wholly uninformed assumption was that Halcro SSP-80 would take a component input (up to 1080p) and "upconvert" it to a HDMI output. On the other hand, the SSP-100 would take a component, HDMI, S-video, etc. input of any resolution and "scale" it to be 1080p on the HDMI output (maybe on the component output as well). One changes the input/output type (upconvert) and the other physically alters the signal being transported (scale). Could be wrong, but that's what I got out of their literature...
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Steiger,

You haven't bought a processor yet?? Has it been a couple of years of indecision??


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Steiger,

You haven't bought a processor yet?? Has it been a couple of years of indecision??
Its hard to keep up with Eric. He probably gets a good deal on a surround processor twice a year, as he's in the business. Then he keeps gettin' another one and sellin' the old one. I can't keep up with Eric at all.

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I'm just waiting for the review...Nails are finally growing back...:)

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Hi,

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