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It may not cost 20K but it looks like it has the makings for a VERY high end system. M25 7 channel amp.


M15 processor.


M55 transport.
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Any technical info available on the M15. Does it accept audio via HDMI? Does it accept DSD/DVD-Audio via i.Link/1394?
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I just wet myself...

Any information available? Specs? Pricing?

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Any word on a mono-amp or at least bridgeable stereo?

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dual mono integrated amplifier

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Nad North America Is About Two Weeks Away Of Config Info ....
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All I want is a surround processor that accepts audio via HDMI, will accept SACD and DVD-Audio over either HDMI or i.Link (for now that would be i.Link since SACD is not approved for HDMI but I will settle for a promise of handling SACD via HDMI once approved), and can handle the new DTS-HD and DD+ formats associated with Blue Ray and HD-DVD. Is that too much to ask?!! Will the NAD M15 be the answer?
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I think I just found my next integrated amp... Assuming, of course, that it sounds as good as it looks.

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All I want is a surround processor that accepts audio via HDMI, will accept SACD and DVD-Audio over either HDMI or i.Link (for now that would be i.Link since SACD is not approved for HDMI but I will settle for a promise of handling SACD via HDMI once approved), and can handle the new DTS-HD and DD+ formats associated with Blue Ray and HD-DVD. Is that too much to ask?!! Will the NAD M15 be the answer?

SUCCINCTLY said!

In addition I would be expecting four hdmi inputs to allow for: Cable box/stb, hdvd player, blue ray player, and upconverting dvd player.

In addition the hdmi output should show analog cross converted video, perhaps with a high quality scaling to 1080i.

The new sony es receivers do this.
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I want a prepro though, not a receiver. Any idea when a prepro with these features will be available?
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uzun,

The M15 is a pre/pro. "av surround sound preamplifier" seems like a pretty clear designation to me ;-)

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When I said I wanted a prepro that has those features, I was referring to CINERAMAX's statement that the new Sony ES Receivers have the features I listed. It seems the new Pioneer receivers will as well, but I want those features in a prepro. It's not clear the M15 will have all or any of the features I listed.
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You won't find a prepro that has these features availble because some of them are not released yet. There are no sources for dts-hd and dd+ yet. They will probably come by the end of this or early next year when we see the launch of HD-DVD/Blu-Ray and that will be the time when the manufacturers of prepros will release updates or upgrades depending if the hardware is powerful enough for it or if it needs more processing power.

If you always want to be up-to-date then I suggest you have a look at the Meridian 861 or any other modular prepro out there. Casablanca III comes to mind as well.

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I just peed myself.

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i.Link/Firewire handling of DSD and DVD-Audio information is fairly common in receivers. While DD+ and DTS-HD aren't out yet, digital handling of all existing formats is not uncommon in receivers, and pretty rare in prepros (only the integra research perhaps?).
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Nad has never been a source of the ultra high end latest and greatest. They have always focused on sound quality. That might change, but who knows.

Gee, reading this thread makes me glad to have 2 channel only
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I found a site that shows the internals of the M3 integrated, though in the tiniest of pictures Looks a lot like the S300 which is a rockin' piece and way "too good" to be just an NAD, let alone $2K. Dual transformers and very large caps from what I can tell. I bet you, if I had to guess, that amp/processor is in the $2500-$3000 range, the integrated and DVD are in the $1500-$2000 range. I'm a little bummed not to see an HDMI sticker on the pre/pro though. I hope that's just an oversight.

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I just received a call from a NAD higher up wondering where I had found the pictures. He explained that the pictures only begin to hint what's inside these machines. He sounded very excited and will try to forward me a press release, whose release date is being pushed forward now.
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Nice, bump.
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too bad they don't have any balanced versions.
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If all your going to do is hook it up to the matching 7-channel amplifier 3' away, balanced does nothing but add cost and complexity to an otherwise well-designed system. I'd prefer to see multi-channel digital outs, personally.

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I'd prefer to see multi-channel digital outs, personally.

That would be a very nice feature, but it rarely seems to be seen as important by manufacturers

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I can't wait to hear this stuff...

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My tought's goes to Integra Research when looking at this NAD...

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If any one has ever heard the S300, well, if the new integrated is anything like that, and it appears to be, it's utterly world class. But these time, it LOOKS like it's world class and, sadly, that does make a difference. Gryphon sold a practically identical version of the S300 that sold for like $5K in Europe. Big Sankin transistors, dual transformers. Nice piece. That M3 looks like a very similar unit, but with more power, nicer remote, and WAY more capability. The adjustable crossover is a nice idea! Too bad I may have seen my last non-digital, not powered speaker. I think I'd like to own the amp 'just because'.

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I think I'd like to own the amp 'just because'.

Sadly (or gladly ), that is at the root of much of high end purchases. Often I have found myself buying items "just because". After I got it out of my system, then I would sell it (I have a friend who keeps too many of them). Thankfully Audiogon (and the like) helps appease both problems.

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No EQ apparently. That makes it a non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

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No EQ? Both the M3 and M15 list bass/treble and at least one other EQ type on each one. And the M15 looks to be advanced enough to accept something more powerful in the future.

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