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post #4921 of 6521 Old 02-01-2012, 01:42 AM
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Can any of you recommend the theater chairs with the least possible weight?

My current chairs are too heavy and they are dumbing down the D-Box motion. I am looking for comfy leather chairs and not commercial type chairs but I am putting 4 of them on a platform and want them to be very light to let me maximize the motion.

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I find tactile equally important to motion. If you get the most plush, comfiest chairs, the tactile is muted a lot. With the D-Box seating, they use rigid plywood throughout which is great in transferring tactile and also durable. If you put in a crapload of foam and other 'comfy' items, you can really absorb a lot of tactile. I do not like to go overboard with 'comfy'. I find the D-Box chairs a decent balance between comfy' and having some necessary rigidity. Most people would find the D-Box chairs exceptionally comfortable, they are. I wouldn;t want the ultra plush kind, it just too much absorption of tactile...
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It's going to be added shortly. Demolition Man will be on that list soon as well.

Yes, both of these make me VERY happy !!!!!
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Hi all,

I'm looking for create or edit D-box motion codes for my own movies. Is it possible? My goal is play my videos with motion.
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Hi all,

I'm looking for create or edit D-box motion codes for my own movies. Is it possible? My goal is play my videos with motion.

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So I watched Colombiana last night and enjoyed it. There's a lot of MFX in the film, and it really compliments the action well. The film definitely has echoes of screenwriter Luc Besson's earlier work like Le Femme Nikita & The Professional, but it's largely its own film. I'm really surprised this didn't make more of a splash last year at the box office. Regardless, it's definitely worth a watch and the MFX are fantastic.

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Watched on older movie that I hadn't seen on d-box before and I can highly recommend "The Transporter". It had some of the best MFX scenes I have ever experienced on the d-box.

It's also a Luc Besson film - referencing the post above...

Anyone got any older, but good, movie recommendations - particularly car ones?
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Hi all,

I'm looking for create or edit D-box motion codes for my own movies. Is it possible? My goal is play my videos with motion.

A couple of months ago, I was working on a project to crack the contents of motion codes and how they are sync'd to the audio stream. Had I been successful, it would have been theoretically possible to create a utility to make our own codes. However, I have indefinitely suspended that project because it is complex and extremely time consuming. I may come back to it someday (if I run out of other projects). If I could get some interest from other developers/hackers, I would definitely bump up the prioritization of this.

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Watched on older movie that I hadn't seen on d-box before and I can highly recommend "The Transporter". It had some of the best MFX scenes I have ever experienced on the d-box.

It's also a Luc Besson film - referencing the post above...

Anyone got any older, but good, movie recommendations - particularly car ones?

Not a car movie per se, but just watched Titan AE this weekend. First time for my kids and my first time with it in D-Box. Good flick and I was pleasantly surprised by how good the MFX were.

I sold my copy of The Core last year, and before I shipped it out the door, I thought we had better watch it in D-Box. It's not a good movie, but it was a good excuse for some good MFX. But in reality, I found it to be quite poor in the MFX department. Dialogue scenes on the "train" could have been full of constant jitter... but they were mostly still.

My point is, I think the MFX artists at D-Box have really gotten more bold over the years and a lot the titles that were coded a few years back don't hold well with the work they're doing today. So you might be disappointed in an older movie, just because the MFX aren't as good as you think they should be.
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2005 had some really good codes with iRobot, War of the Worlds, and Flight of the Phoenix which during the plan crash, I experienced the most intense tactical MFX with D-Box so far.

The Matrix Reloaded highway chase scene has great MFX and it was coded in 2003.

It does seem that the codes have become more consistent over the last few years.
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Thanks drvais and BigPines.

Got some clues on motion codes structure. You can see motion code wavefrom in attached image.
Motion codes are using sinusoidal graphs to comminicate with actuators.
Channel 1 controls actuator 1 and channel 2 controls actuator 2.
Zero points means no act. Positive values tells actuator to move up, negative values tells move down.
I can edit this waveform and control the actuators. But syncronizing codes for movie is very difficult.
Need a utility like x-sim's video editor plugin.

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Drive has been officially added to the "Currently Working On" list...

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Drive has been officially added to the "Currently Working On" list...

And Star Trek 6 is out, and Star Trek 7 has been added to the list.
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Ok, for those with a crystal ball, Contagion is not going to get MFX? Just need to know if I should just go ahead and rent it. Thanks.
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Ok, for those with a crystal ball, Contagion is not going to get MFX? Just need to know if I should just go ahead and rent it. Thanks.

Mine says, "Outlook not so good".
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Thanks drvais and BigPines.

Got some clues on motion codes structure. You can see motion code wavefrom in attached image.
Motion codes are using sinusoidal graphs to comminicate with actuators.
Channel 1 controls actuator 1 and channel 2 controls actuator 2.
Zero points means no act. Positive values tells actuator to move up, negative values tells move down.
I can edit this waveform and control the actuators. But syncronizing codes for movie is very difficult.
Need a utility like x-sim's video editor plugin.


I was able to discover a lot about how they are creating their magic. However, it is complicated and figuring out everything is time consuming. I am interested to hear what you have discovered and possibly collaborating with you. Ultimately, I also envision some kind of utility that will enable us to create our own motion codes and sync them to the audio stream of our choice. I may or may not be the one to pull this off but have no doubt that this will actually happen. It is just a matter of time. You have a PM.

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Mine says, "Outlook not so good".

Again, there is very little action or movement in this film to warrant motion coding, so it's highly unlikely that it will be coded.

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Again, there is very little action or movement in this film to warrant motion coding, so it's highly unlikely that it will be coded.

I'm eating my words now obviously as it's been added to the list...

You'll have to let me know how the MFX turn out, as I'll be really surprised if there is anything noteworthy.

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I watched Road to Perdition last night and was amazed at how well a few key MFX moments could really enhance this drama. The MFX coders greatly amped up the effect of gunshots which really drove home the impact of the violence in this film (which is sparse, compared to an action film). Also, the "learning to drive" scene was certainly ideal for what D-Box can provide. If you're a fan of this film, you owe it to yourself to experience it with D-Box.

Strangely, my motion controller didn't sync with the film until 15 minutes in. Initially, I just figured I had a bad catalog number (it's the US release from Netflix). I'm certainly glad I was too lazy to turn off my controller after the non-sync or else I never would have experienced all the joys D-Box had to offer for the movie. Regardless, during the first 15 minutes there was not a single moment that could have used MFX anyway. I just thought I'd report this occurrence as it was a first for me.

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Dang, still waiting for Kung Fu Panda 2 to be added to the working on list.
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I'm eating my words now obviously as it's been added to the list...

You'll have to let me know how the MFX turn out, as I'll be really surprised if there is anything noteworthy.

That is the whole point. Even if there are only a couple scenes: 1) Its is very fast to code, not very many events to code. 2) It makes much more of an impact when an event happens, vs movies that have continuous events (where you can become desensitized to some degree)
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Wow, I wish I checked this thread out today. I just watched this earlier today.
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Wow, I wish I checked this thread out today. I just watched this earlier today.

Did you see what I meant by the lack of "motion-worthy" scenes or am I not remembering the film very well?

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Did you see what I meant by the lack of "motion-worthy" scenes or am I not remembering the film very well?

I agree. I can't see where they could put much motion in this film. Some films just lend themselves better to motion.

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*Phew!*

Cat in the Hat is finally done!

And so is Adaptation.

We watched Kung Fu Panda 2 in 3D the other night. Pretty good... I'm glad to see the codes aren't up today, which I was almost certain would happen.
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Columbiana was entertaining. No surprise when I saw Luc Besson as the director/producer. I would call it "The Professional 2"

I enjoyed it. Coding was good also.
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How would you rate contagion the movie on a 10 star scale?
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Contagion was a 7.0.

Rocketeer codes are up today as well.

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Contagion was a 7.0.

Rocketeer codes are up today as well.

Now that is a cause to celebrate!
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Now that is a cause to celebrate!

It only took 2 weeks to code The Rocketeer.

I wonder if they can crank out Drive just as fast.

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It only took 2 weeks to code The Rocketeer.

I wonder if they can crank out Drive just as fast.

I wonder how true that is. I noticed it on the list on 27 Jan (had to check) and it was out on the 13th... so pretty close. I requested it in Nov or Dec... So it's still a pretty good turnaround.

Hopefully it doesn't mean they didn't give it 5 star treatment. I'll watch it this week sometime (I hope) and let anyone who cares know.
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