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Say I took a HD DVD player with DD+ 5.1 analog outputs and routed them to an Audyssey pro equalizer that can correct for room interactions and do the bass management for each channel and then route the outputs from the Audyssey to a CJ MET1 triode tube 6 channel preamp and from there on to the amps. Would such a setup work for multi channel home theater audio? Is there something I am missing? The video will be connected directly from the source to the front projector as this will strictly be a theater room. What would I be missing in such a setup compared to say a high-end Theta Casablanca III pre-pro? Both these setups can be had for < $7000 in the used market.
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Nope. The Audyssey SEQ will recommend level, delay and crossover settings but it does not implement them. Neither will the MET1, except for level. I think you need to rethink this.

The CBIII is a superb device but, imho, does not offer any room EQ.

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Nope. The Audyssey SEQ will recommend level, delay and crossover settings but it does not implement them. Neither will the MET1, except for level. I think you need to rethink this.

But the matterial from the source is already decoded.
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But the matterial from the source is already decoded.

Do you have any idea what you are talking about? That's simply irrelevant.

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Do you have any idea what you are talking about? That's simply irrelevant.

No it isn't, when the information is processed in the source player you no longer need a receiver or processor for anything.
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No it isn't, when the information is processed in the source player you no longer need a receiver or processor for anything.

Not necessarily for delay and crossover. Very few players have adequate options for this.

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Not necessarily for delay and crossover. Very few players have adequate options for this.

And? Who said anything about crossover settings for a large and small speaker setup? And for audio synch with the video he would have to try it and see.
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And? Who said anything about crossover settings for a large and small speaker setup? And for audio synch with the video he would have to try it and see.

At this point, it is apparent that serious exchange with you is futile. Read the original post.

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At this point, it is apparent that serious exchange with you is futile. Read the original post.

And there is nothing in there for large and small setup's, this setup will work and that is all there is to it. I think it is dumb but it will work.
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At this point, it is apparent that serious exchange with you is futile. Read the original post.

I beleive what Arjun is wanting to know is if he will receive the lossless audio through his setup. In short the answer is yes because the DVD player will decode the information.
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I beleive what Arjun is wanting to know is if he will receive the lossless audio through his setup. In short the answer is yes because the DVD player will decode the information.

True but he posited that he had"routed them to an Audyssey pro equalizer that can correct for room interactions and do the bass management for each channel." It cannot do the latter. In such an arrangement, he cannot make effective use of the Audyssey without complementing its correction with appropriate other adjustments. In such a situation, it is a poor arrangement/use of resources.

I am a big fan of Audyssey, btw, but, as with any device or tool, it needs to be used right.

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So Kal what would be the appropriate way to connect this setup without having to use a highend prepro and still make it work? I am not that familiar with the Audyssey so please pardon my ignorance and any help would be greatly appreciated.

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You do not need a high end pre/pro, the denon receivers have the audyssey built right in.
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So Kal what would be the appropriate way to connect this setup without having to use a highend prepro and still make it work? I am not that familiar with the Audyssey so please pardon my ignorance and any help would be greatly appreciated.Regards,

It really depends on your philosophy and goals. The easiest way is simply to do what Neverwinter2 suggests. Buy a high quality AVR, like a Denon 4806, mate it with a suitable Denon or other player that will connect via a digital connection (HDMI, iLink, DenonLink) and be done with it. You might also use it as a pre/pro with external amplification. Simple.

OTOH, if you do not think this is of sufficient sound quality for you, you have a few options:
1. Go with your choice of separates and forget about room EQ. Treat room acoustics directly.
2. Go with a Meridian or Lexicon pre/pro and bear with the extra A/D/A since, at the moment, neither will accept a suitable digital input format. (This is, afaik, so if someone knows more about these, speak up.) I undertand that there's an upcoming TacT device with suitable inputs and room EQ.
3. Find a DVD-A/SACD player which has the BM/level controls you need and carefully place the speakers exactly equidistant from you. You will also need a sub with a phase control since the acoustic distance of the sub/filter will need compensation. A little clumsy.

So, none are optimal but, if you look at the history of new feature implementations, it seems likely that Audyssey or similar will trickle up into high end products.

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