OK, i want to get a few points in before this is shut down...
The cable debate is very much like the debate that surrounds religion as their faith in a lot of cases is as strong and as blinded. So there is little hope that you can debate it and reach any sort of agreement except to agree to disagree.
Unfortunately, like religious debates, people easily take offense even when it’s not intended.
I think you are wrong. I have seen and been party to such debates and as long as the people on both sides are knowledgable and have respect for the other side. THey can be very interesting debates. However the key is respect to both sides.
Silver cable sounds different than copper...can we agree on that?
This would be a second on the NO.
Dizzman, Mike G and other I believe would say that it still doesn't matter and go on to claim odds by which Mike could have guessed the right choices, but when you use odds to prove something in one direction the same odds can be used in the opposite direction.
I would be very intrigued as to what is actually going on in the case of a result that was statistically significant. I would not sit here and try to nullify the test as i can make a pretty good guess that the test would have sufficient controls as to take bias and other perceptions out of the mix.
I do know from organizing Live music events that some microphone cabling will have interference and must be replaced.
And??? in any discussion there is plenty of room for cables that are not made well, or have issues in one environment or another. in that case, your shielding was either not sufficient, or the connectors were not made correctly or the cable was damaged. I did live events for years, every gig had a few cables that had to be sacrificed to the big soldering iron in the sky.
1. Break in period
2. Differences with Cryo-treated, sugar coated , or sent to the moon and back (mmmm... sugar coated)
3. Need time to settle into a particular system
4. different connector matertial (titanium gold etc..)will result in a better connection
5. better power plugs (ex: hubbel) will result in better overall performance
Well, not really part of this discussion but i would say the same, can anybody either give some explanation in our physical universe as to why they might work, (not even asking if they are audible, but just what they might be doing) and point to some kind of... any kind of test where some controls are in place to show that they do what they say.
What I want to see is someone take a 100' or 1000' length of cable vs a 1' length of cable and see if someone can tell the the difference. Then do 50'. Then 25', etc. At some point in length, all cables will make a difference. Where is it?
This would be a neat test. find a decent system, leave one speaker normal, then ABX in different cabe lengths to the other side. no need to go to 1000', maybe to 50' of course this would have to use somewhat normal cables as the costs would be just a little outrageous.
One thing that "we" are always told is to just listen and stop measuring. i would say we do. When i see the cagle gauge arguments i kind of laugh, assumptions that a cable must be "whatever" in diameter to work porperly are always funny. assumptions are made without just listening. Most of us say, if you have 12 gauge, then you are fine for just about anything (provided quality materials and quality construction) and others will in many cases claim you have to have this that or the other to get the kind of response that is needed.
THe thing that some of us here are asking for is just some sort of something that gives a REAL reason why these things are better.
And if i ever find myself in cascadia, i will be making an attempt to get in to listen to mr. Lavignes system, because no matter what i believe in the world of cables and tweaks, i love music.