Originally Posted by Bulldogger
Yes, I have seen Floyd Toole's work and read a lot of other's positions on the subject as well. Yes I know why you asked about if I was familiar with Floyd's position. I want to know YOURS as you are not Floyd Toole and I have read already a lot of what Floyd says. If it's your position that you use DBT to buy audio gear then show how you have used that method to buy stuff yourself
My position is not that I use DBT to make purchases. My position is that many claims made about comparative sonic attributes of gear and formats, are unreliable without DBT evidence or evidence from measurements.
My position is that you just listen to the gear and buy what you think sounds best
. That's what I do.
And then what claims
do you make about the sound of your gear? That it sounds better than X? Bzzzt. That's where audiophiles make fools of themselves, by ignoring the existence of psychological biasing factors....something science has long recognized and accounted for.
The difference between you and me, then, is that while neither of us uses DBT directly to buy gear (I'd be happy to, though if the option were offered to me), I don't make unsubstantiated claims about the sound of my gear.
Ok, I got 10K to spend, what would you buy based upon DBT?
Based on DBT? Well, I guess you'd want to buy an ABX comparator first. They used to go for $600, so after that you have PLENTY to spend on stuff that you've proven to yourself , sounds different.
Me, I'd spend a bunch on speakers that adhere to the qualities of 'good sounding speakers' elucidated by the CRC/Harman work done by Toole and Olive-- which used DBTs in its research. IIRC, Mirage, JBL, and a few other companies (usually Canada-based) sell speakers that do that. And I'd spend another bunch on either self-made or commercially-made room treatments, like Ethan Winer's Realtraps, or the Rives Audio stuff. In fact, I might spend a few thou and have Rives or Terry Montlick do a full acoustic work-up of my space. Or invest in great measuring gear and software myself.
The remaining piddly amount would be spent on commodity gear, like AVRs, digital front ends, and cables. There, it's mainly down to what features they offer (including how loud they can play without distortion), what formats they play, what connectors they have, respectively.
You can pick the price point and make a recommendation. Gotta confess, it it's not high-end gear, I'll likley have no opinion
Gotta confess, I honestly don't care what your recommendations are, and your sighted evaluations are worthless to me. Come up with some new tricks, doggie, if you want me to keep throwing you treats.