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In 1990 I saw a Sony 43 inch direct view CRT. It took 4 men to carry it. They had a big sling and two long poles to carry it. They had to carry it on their shoulders. It cost $13,000 in 1990.

Have you ever seen or heard of a larger direct view CRT?

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A friend has a 51". The glass looks to be about two inches thick. Crazyness.

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Well, he capitalized it, so it must be true!

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Mitsubishi's 42"-ers were probably the largest commercially available models, overhere in Europe they only came as commercial 'presentation'monitors, not as regular TV's.

Philips has had a 40 or was it 42 inch tube in the late eighties or so. But, never seen any pics let alone an actual monitor.

Widescreen model largest size probably were the Thomson (USA) 40" tubes. Believe these were also used in the Loewe TVs.

As for experimental models and technology demonstrators, could you post some pictures of that 51"-er?
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Hehe

They used to have the 40" Mits on display at Hudson's Twelve Oaks Mall in Novi Meeechigan but it was never running. Finally I asked a salesman, why don't you turn that puppy on? It consistently kicked out the circuit breaker for the tv department......they could not demo the beast!

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Well that's a pretty lame excuse.

Heck, I've invented a 20Kw amplifier, fits into a showbox (a heavily modified Carver M400), but I can't ever demo it, no one has enough power to turn it on..

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A guy I know who manages a Barrow's Pizza in Mesa still has his 40" CRT TV. I keep bugging him when he's goin' HD but he's happy as is. Not sure what brand. Did Sony make a 40'er CRT TV? If not, then its a Mits.

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Yes, Sony made a 40-inch XBR. According to CNET it was the largest direct-view tube when the review was written in 2002. According to Sony, their 40-inch was the world's largest flat screen CRT when introduced in 2001. (That suggests that there were larger CRTs that were not flat.)

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yourgrandma: I can't find any information about a 50" CRT direct-view set. Are you sure it is not a CRT-based RPTV? I have one of those now myself. For instance, if you google "50 inch CRT" you will find references to videowall "cubes" which are actually rear projection units.

http://catalogs.infocommiq.com/AVCat...00_Leaflet.pdf

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If it is a CRT, it would weigh a good 500-750 lbs and would have cost tens of $thousands. At least.

Plus it would have been a prototype and he would have worked for some Japanese TV company. Or had huge connections in the industry.

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I brokered two of the Sony 42" deals in 1989, one to Roger Gimbel and the second 0ne to Otto Beisheim - for many years the single wealthiest German citizen.



On a surprising note I recently found out that Herr Beisheim had been hiding a big WW2 skeleton in his closet until 2005. To think that after the death of his wife in 1999 I sent him a letter in German suggesting that since he had no children he could clone himself and name himself as the sole inheritor. His demeanor towards me turned surprisingly friendly after that comunique. If I had to guess, chances are he did it. In 2001 he built his own city within Berlin: BESHEIM CENTER. In the past here I have credited her Beisheim with the introduction of the Faroudja into the consumer arena, as his "too many lines" CRITIQUE TO MY PROJECTION display IS WHAT FIRST CAUSED ME TO RESEARCH THE THEN $50,000 FAROUDJA LD-1, hell I have called him the "Vater von Heimkino".

Little did I suspect of Herr Beisheim's dark underbelly when I tried to concince him to use his billions to clone himself and collect "his own" inheritance. What may I have created? The first cloned nazi. Oh my God. I do feel bad now.
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I betcha he's pay your $100 just to pick it up. Even charities won't take it!!!

Max, how about you get it and put it in your video museum????

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Hehe

They used to have the 40" Mits on display at Hudson's Twelve Oaks Mall in Novi Meeechigan but it was never running. Finally I asked a salesman, why don't you turn that puppy on? It consistently kicked out the circuit breaker for the tv department......they could not demo the beast!

Little weird to read that... most likely my father if it was before '91.

I remember getting the newest TV, VCR, camcorder or whatever every quarter for his bonus - never did get a 40" Mitsubishi though - no where to put it.

I know Sony had a 40" set for a couple few years.
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we had 15 of the 40" mits. we used them when renting out video conference setups. we would have to send 4 guys just to get them out of the case and setup.

I hated them!

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we had 15 of the 40" mits. we used them when renting out video conference setups. we would have to send 4 guys just to get them out of the case and setup.

I hated them!

What the case didn't come with a scissorstyle lift to make it pop-up on the push of a button;-).
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they were available. hydraulic ones. but they increased the size of the case so much we could not put the monitor in a regular panel van.

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I thought the RCA 36" and the Loewe 36" WIDESCREEN direct view HDTVs were the largest TVs made (even though the RCA model was a rebadged Loewe with a Direct TV HD receiver built in).
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A 40" diagonal, 4:3 screen is 768 square inches. A 36" diagonal, 16:9 screen is 554 square inches. It isn't even close! The 40" 4:3 even produces a slightly larger 16:9 picture---576 square inches, 36.7" diagonal.

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I've got a 36" Sony XBR in my family/wreck room and I've moved the Sony 3 times. Every move I've made, I had to hire a pro mover to come and do the transport. It's just to damn heavy.

Although the image is beginning to lose its luster after like 8 years, the plus of this heavy CRT is my 2 year old cannot knock it over or damage it. My daughter is pretty disciplined, but kids are kids and occasionally she takes a run at it and that display never moves an inch when she pushes it. The thick glass is a strong asset in this situation.

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The widescreen tubes were made by Thomson in the US. Believe they may have moved production to Mexico at some point. There was a second series that required less glass and was 40" instead of the first model's 38".
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Yeah i had one of those 40 mitsubishi's. The thing was not only heavy but the weight was all in the front, so if you lifted it, you had to compensate for that. We almost fell down the stairs carrying it. Really a beast.

Back in the day it was the king. That unit was the beginning of the end for Mitsu.
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I haven't been to my buddy's parent's house with the huge CRT in a long while. Obviously I was mistaken on the size. I believe its like 40 or 42. 4:3, very boulbous. I think it's a Sony, but I'm not really sure. I'll call him right now and see if i can find out.

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I know this is an old thread but I just had to respond. I'm a proud owner of a Sony KV-40 XBR800 and have no immediate plans of getting rid of it. According to the info plate it was built in August of 2003. I think that was the last year Sony made these 330# beasts. At least I don't have to worry about somebody slipping out the door with it if I'm not home.
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I had a 40" Mitsubishi in the mid 90's. Good TV. I bet it weighed 200 pounds. It had a weird compass button that counteracted the which way the TV was facing.
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I believe the 38" Aconda was the largest widescreen consumer set but the XBR 40 had a bigger tube. The Aconda actually has a slightly larger 16x9 presentation than the XBR 40.
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Mitsubishi did give a run at the 50 inch tube, but I understand that they essentially imploded. The 40" tube weighed almost 260 pounds, was extremely front heavy and had a large handle on each side to assist grabbing the unit

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I know this is an old thread but I just had to respond. I'm a proud owner of a Sony KV-40 XBR800 and have no immediate plans of getting rid of it. According to the info plate it was built in August of 2003. I think that was the last year Sony made these 330# beasts. At least I don't have to worry about somebody slipping out the door with it if I'm not home.

Mine was Built in June 2004. I really like the HD Picture, But I am thinking of upgrading to a Pioneer 151. I watch Directv in 480P so I can fill the screen. I think it is cleaner picture than any Plasma out there.
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I am still using my Sony 36 ins XBR which I purchased in 2000. I will run it until it fails as the picture is incredibly good, much better than any flat panel TV that I have seen. But it does hog up a lot of room space!
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