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Well, now I'm crying. This is so sad.

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1)All the major audio magazines.
2) I do.

All the major audio magazines? Yeah...right.

You think the S30's are the best under $1K. Umm....OK.

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All the major audio magazines? Yeah...right.

You think the S30's are the best under $1K. Umm....OK.

Next!!

Well what do you think is the best under $1k? oh......well i guess i should'nt have asked such a silly obvious question....so i guess I'll roll my eyes to.
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C'mon, now. Lets not let PULLIAMM "pull" us into a senseless (and obviously, except to him, unwinnable) argument.


Ben and Jerry's Coconut Almond Fudge is best, BTW. I mean, c'mon, everybody knows that. Creamers Weekly said so. Pistachio, Pistachio would be a close 2nd.

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Well what do you think is the best under $1k? oh......well i guess i should'nt have asked such a silly obvious question....so i guess I'll roll my eyes to.

Tawaun....there is no best. Do you have one? Or did you just want to jab a bit?

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C'mon, now. Lets not let PULLIAMM "pull" us into a senseless (and obviously, except to him, unwinnable) argument.


I like Ben and Jerry's Coconut Almond Fudge, BTW. Pistachio, Pistachio would be a close 2nd.

This whole thread is based off a guy not liking the Sierra's but everyone ensist's that he should,now do you see something wrong with this thread or is it just me and a few other people that feel like this?
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Tawaun....there is no best. Do you have one? Or did you just want to jab a bit?

Yeah i just wanted to get a left jab in there,im good now.
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This whole thread is based off a guy not liking the Sierra's but everyone ensist's that he should,now do you see something wrong with this thread or is it just me and a few other people that feel like this?

Sure...it is just like when you insist something is better than somethingelse. Or is that different to you?

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All the major audio magazines? Yeah...right.

You think the S30's are the best under $1K. Umm....OK.

Next!!

On the other hand i do HIGHLY DOUBT the S30's are the best under $1k though.
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Sure...it is just like when you insist something is better than somethingelse. Or is that different to you?

Sure its different I dont or wont have a rabid pack of Ascend gang members and the grand wizard screaming in someones ear telling them their listening wrong and they better change their ways or else like you and your crew do.
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This whole thread is based off a guy not liking the Sierra's but everyone ensist's that he should,now do you see something wrong with this thread or is it just me and a few other people that feel like this?

Everyone didn't "ensist [sic] that he should". I didn't. I thought I gave him some good general and objective advice, as did some others.


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Sure its different I dont or wont have a rabid pack of Ascend gang members and the grand wizard screaming in someones ear telling them their listening wrong and they better change their ways or else like you and your crew do.

It is is VERY important to point out that the OPs thread title was (although perhaps inadvertently) quite provocative, don't you think?


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..........and the grand wizard......

And there is REALLY no need to invoke race, here.

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Tawaun....we need to get you and Pulliam together.

Na....you and PULLIAMM need to get together,but unlike PULLIAMM atleast your consistant though.
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Everyone didn't "ensist [sic] that he should". I didn't. I thought I gave him some good general and objective advice, as did some others.



It is is VERY important to point out that the OPs thread title was (although perhaps inadvertently) quite provocative, don't you think?



And there is REALLY no need to invoke race, here.

It was quite provocative,i agree there,and its not race inclined I can change it to the KKK if you prefer,it was simply a humerous analysis.
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.........................and its not race inclined I can change it to the KKK if you prefer,it was simply a humerous analysis.

Yeah, maybe KKK would be more subtle.

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Oh my bad i said "grand wizard" so its now biratial.
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Na....you and PULLIAMM need to get together,but unlike PULLIAMM atleast your consistant though.

Dude...be original.

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Oh my bad i said "grand wizard" so its now biratial.

As an aside, Tawaun, you CAN get a spellchecker plug-in for IE.

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You guys have fun being vampires trying to turn people into your kind,im out.........
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You guys have fun being vampires trying to turn people into your kind,im out.........

Yo, LATA

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Maybe one shouldn't look at the S30's as the best under 1K but maybe more like a decent performer at the $200 - $250 price point most suitable for a small living room or a home office provided you don't play anything that has signficant information in the lower octaves. They'd probably be fine with the AM/FM/Sirius or maybe a turntable. And no, I'm not about to hear them but I'll keep them in mind as a possibility for a bedroom.

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For a speaker thread there sure isnt much speaking about speakers going on.

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I Just Wan't To Know Did Tjhub Return The Speakers ????????
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It is is VERY important to point out that the OPs thread title was (although perhaps inadvertently) quite provocative, don't you think?

I wanted to pop back on this thread since it's finally back to my topic; at least somewhat.

It really was not my intention to have the thread title come off "quite provacative." I really hadn't been a member very long at the time and I had no idea this thread would cause a stir. Although for the most part it has been very good.

I researched many speakers in general a lot before picking the Sierra's. I've probably read the professional reviews 20 times each. I've searched this forum and others to read what is most likely more than 1,000 posts regarding the Sierra's. EVERY review, get-together, and owner has basically had little to nothing bad to say about the Sierra's. I thought they were a no brainer purchase, and as such I had very high expectations.

When I first listened to them, I found many things the bothered me (most outlined in my original post). I really thought I wanted that "neutral" sound everyone was raving about. I didn't hear it. When I posted this thread, I was thinking something was wrong with me. I just didn't understand why I felt so different than so many others.

I've come a long way since that first post. David Fabrikant's advise (as well as others) to just give the speakers some good listening time was fantastic. I know I hear music differently now. I've learned to be much more objective and I think I've learned a lot. Since I love music so much, these last few weeks have been great.

One of best things that has happened is all of the PM's and emails I shared with David Fabrikant (incredible guy), Mark Schiftler, Jim Salk, craigsub, and a few others (they know who they are ). Everyone has been extremely helpful and the three competitors listed are absolutely nothing but respectful of each other. They are all really great guys, but I've worked the most with David and this guy is just unbelievable. Just the time he alone has taken to work with me is unprecedented. He's one of the best!

One thing I'm still learning, but I think I'm getting a good grip on, is what *I* want from my speakers. I've heard it, but it's not all coming from one speaker. Big surprise huh? What a revelation?

I really can't put my final thoughts on the Sierra's because I have a lot going on. I've been listening to a couple of other speakers and I'm figuring out what it is I'm wanting. I won't be getting a very important pair of speakers until next week Thursday. I'll be able to finalize everything then. I'm sorry if this is a tease, but it's just how it has to be.

Thus far I'll throw out a "thank you" to everyone that has made an effort to help me either on this thread, PM's, or email. It really is appreciated and I'm really happy I decided to be a member of this forum. Having access to these manufacturers, professionals, and knowledgeable forum members is just priceless. There is just so much opportunity and knowledge here.

I really hope in the end that this thread is not looked upon as BS and worthless; it certainly hasn't been for me and maybe that's all that matters. Some of these posts certainly aren't helping.

I'm off to listen to some music...
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I Just Wan't To Know Did Tjhub Return The Speakers ????????

As of this moment... NO.
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Your my hero (or is it gyro?) ...great post, and so overdo!

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