Originally Posted by Nuance
You are certainly correct about Grandarf. He hates you and your company and will do anything he can to slander both. Its sad really, but there will always be haters out there, no matter who you are and what you sell. At least he's proving you right every time he posts. And you watch, he'll reply to this for sure, spreading more hate. I pity people like that.
I guess its best to just ignore folks like this. They thrive on our responses, so I won't fuel the fire anymore. Time to take the high road, even if I get bashed for it.
Happy Easter everyone, even you slanderers and haters.
Labels labels labels. You are an ********** fanboy, and I'm an anti-********** fanboy. Now that this is out of the way, how about you reply to any of my arguments instead of playing the labels game? As I said earlier, I don't hate **********, neither do I hate MLS, I just don't like him and don't respect him because of many reasons, one of which that most of his rebuttals end up like empty puerile garbage just like your last post. So let me just point out that you didn't take the high road at all, all you did was call me names to again, like your friend MLS did a few posts back, discredit me without actually addressing any of my comments. This isn't taking the high road, quite the opposite you see. (btw, given the few pms I've received it seems I'm not the only one who isn't sold to MLS/**********... But I digress...)
As I've said earlier, it's not the first time ********** announced a product which is yet to hit the shelves in months if not years after. The napkin drawing wasn't an exaggeration, I really believe products have been announced when they were only in the napkin drawing stages. I even believe napkin drawings were posted with some of the announcements!
Take the X electronics. I've quoted the links, In February 2006, someone had given up waiting for them. In end of March 2008, the products are still in development. Is this not vaporware? Is this normal?
The bit I quoted earlier said that the sub the original poster had pre ordered, had been announced two years ago (and this post was of last year), and that a prototype version had been showed a year before. Someone complaints that he's been waiting for 6 months since it was supposed to be released... Then he gets attacked by people who bash him for posting such an outrageous message on an internet forum... Oh no the evil ********** hater has posted something bad, quick grab the torches and pitchforks! To arms my brothers!
I've given a bit more thoughts about these kind of vaporware announcements, and I think another reason is, beyond hype/publicity, in fact to put another product as competition, even though it doesn't exist... Take the sub, if you want to buy a 15 inch sub today, are you going to go for an HSU, SVS, Axiom, etc? Or... Are you going to wait for this new sub which is going to be released soon? So even if you don't actually have a product to sell, you can actually prevent someone from buying a sub today
to then buy your sub later
... Speakers, are you going to buy a set now, or wait for this new speaker who the manufacturer says which redefine our notion of quality? So it could serve a sort of purchase delayer, giving your products a chance of a sale that it wouldn't have had it if had not been announced so soon...
Anyhow, there's also the aspect of image, the importance of threads like these, I'm guessing for an ID business, they can probably mean the difference in a few sales or not...
Also I just want to point out that I wasn't saying that the sub will NEVER be released, same for X electronics or whatever... I'm sure they will, one day, and those who might not want to wait that long would probably get their money back. I might not love ********** as much as many others (understatement) but I'm not claiming that they're crooks or that they'll steal people's money with an inexistent and never to be released product... Just don't hold your breath is my advice. The X electronics have been announced years ago, still in development... Grain of salt applies...
I'm 100% sure that now that the original poster's problem has been posted in public, he'll get taken care of
That's what usually happen when someone posts something negative publicly... Maybe even get a little something extra as apology... Who knows... Maybe that was his intent in the first place! Well in this case canceling a preorder shouldn't have been any problem anyhow I'm sure, but going public often seems to solve many issues, if you know what I mean
Oh, happy easter everyone too!