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Monoprice is out of stock of the speaker wire I need until the 8th of April...just got my speakers in (It's a surprise, I'll post pics of them up once I have everything installed), and I'm itching tog et them hooked up. Thinking of just taking a trip out to Circuit city, but they have a reel of 50ft Nextech cord that is "oxygen free" 12 gauge for $40 dollars and then they have a non oxygen free, just regular 12 gauge for like $20 dollars. Difference? Does it matter? Is speaker wire, speaker wire in the end? Thanks!

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Don't even worry about oxygen free. Just make sure they're H2o free.
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The 'oxygen free' factor doesn't increase sound quality, however in theory it's supposed to reduce corrosion and it's the degradation of the actual copper itself, which reduces sound quality.

It's like preservatives in food. They don't add to the flavour, but maintain the quality of the food for consumption.

Personally, I go for the 'oxygen free'. My front speakers are currently running off Monster XPHP and the copper looks as good as it did the day I bought it... 14 years ago.
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Most wire sold today is oxygen free even if it's not specifically stated. Even if the wire you buy isn't, given its intended use (room temperature and not elevated temperatures) you don't have to worry about hydrogen embrittlement. Google it up.

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I would suggest getting wire from Bluejeanscable.com That's good quality cable and cut to the specific lengths you need.
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The 'oxygen free' factor doesn't increase sound quality, however in theory it's supposed to reduce corrosion and it's the degradation of the actual copper itself, which reduces sound quality.

It's like preservatives in food. They don't add to the flavour, but maintain the quality of the food for consumption.

Personally, I go for the 'oxygen free'. My front speakers are currently running off Monster XPHP and the copper looks as good as it did the day I bought it... 14 years ago.

Where do you live? Right next to the beach? What Buck says is true, O2 Free is a corrosion resistance issue, nothing else. Your speakers are inside the house, not outdoors, where your system is located is probably a element tight area. So, the standard speaker wire will probably last 15-20 years. Can you live with 15+ years for the cables? If so, go and buy the regular 12 gauge from CC. Enjoy your system.
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Monoprice is out of stock of the speaker wire I need until the 8th of April...just got my speakers in (It's a surprise, I'll post pics of them up once I have everything installed), and I'm itching tog et them hooked up. Thinking of just taking a trip out to Circuit city, but they have a reel of 50ft Nextech cord that is "oxygen free" 12 gauge for $40 dollars and then they have a non oxygen free, just regular 12 gauge for like $20 dollars. Difference? Does it matter? Is speaker wire, speaker wire in the end? Thanks!

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Define oxygen free for me. You will never get 100% oxygen free. I know Coleman only uses 99.97% oxygen-free copper feedstock for everything we make. Is that oxygen free? Do you mean 99.9997% oxygen free? Don't forget that oxygen is not the only impurity to worry about in copper...

Who knows what the importers (like mono) use. Actually, I wouldn't even trust them if they said it was oxy-free anyway. I wouldn't trust the Circuit City product either. Either way, you will not hear a difference. Use the least expensive cable you can find from a reputable manufacturer and you will be fine.

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Define oxygen free for me. You will never get 100% oxygen free. I know Coleman only uses 99.97% oxygen-free copper feedstock for everything we make. Is that oxygen free? Do you mean 99.9997% oxygen free? Don't forget that oxygen is not the only impurity to worry about in copper...

Who knows what the importers (like mono) use. Actually, I wouldn't even trust them if they said it was oxy-free anyway. I wouldn't trust the Circuit City product either. Either way, you will not hear a difference. Use the least expensive cable you can find from a reputable manufacturer and you will be fine.

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You are getting too technical with the 99.97% O2 Free...Don't confuse the OP any further. All O2 Free cable will say 99.997% or similar; don't know any 100% free, but it was obvious what the OP wanted.

And, I agree with using the least expensive cable 12 Ga., preferably USA Made you can find. I don't know if you have a local electronics shop nearby that caters to schools, church, choirs, bands, car audio, etc. Maybe a local music store. At my local mom & pop music/electronics store I buy 12 Ga. 2 Wire (12/2) Made in the USA cable for $0.30/ft. Went up, as 4 months ago was $0.25/ft. They also carry Made in China for $0.15/ft. Don't know the brand, but when I get home will check.
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You are getting too technical with the 99.97% O2 Free...Don't confuse the OP any further. All O2 Free cable will say 99.997% or similar; don't know any 100% free, but it was obvious what the OP wanted.

Too technical? I re-read my post and I'm not sure what you mean. Unfortunately, there is a lot of marketing hype out there that does tend to confuse the average joe consumer. And I was serious about the 99.97% oxygen free. If someone does not print the oxygen-free percent right on the cable, it is useless marketing (what is the point of calling it oxygen free?).

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What I mean is that no cable is 100% O2 free. But, by saying that it is only 99.997% O2 Free you are getting too technical about it, as it is only .003% less than 100%.

It is my understanding that all manufacturers print the percentage in the label. At least the ones I have seen.
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I am bucking the convention and using 18guage wire for my surround speakers. Audiophile Jesus is gonna send me straight to
HELL!!

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I am bucking the convention and using 18guage wire for my surround speakers. Audiophile Jesus is gonna send me straight to
HELL!!
Cryo treat it and all will be forgiven. cool.gif

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Hmm this is news to me... I'll contact Elon Musk and have SpaceX park them in earth orbit for a couple of months on the dark side of the earth.

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