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I am looking to spend around 800 bucks on a new 7.1 receiver and speakers (i have a decent sub so i don't need that right away). I was looking for something that i could use to watch blu-rays, dvds, listen to records (my player has a built in phono preamp), cd, maybe dvd-audio or sacd (my dvd player supports them if i do i need something with 5.1 analog) my zune, and stream media from pc through ps3. I was wanting something with like 3 or 4 hdmis, and upconversion (I have been looking at the Onkyo 606). I was also wanting something so i could biamp the L/R speakers for listening to music. I don't care if it does multiple rooms (it is going in a small bedroom with my Samsung LN40-A550), I also need the 4 surround speakers to be able to wall mount (not floor standing i could most likely make something to hang bookshelf speakers). I would like it support all of the formats the ps3 does (dolby true hd and that other uncompressed one), like i said i would like 5.1 or 7.1 analog inputs (sacd needs them). I want something that is loud but doesn't have to be super loud.
I don't know if this goes here or in the reciever forum sorry.
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Have you looked to see what these items typically cost? You'd be hardpressed to find what your looking for with that kind of budget.

You would probably spend that much just on a receiver with all of the specs you're demanding.
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The Onkyo HT-S6100 will do everything you ask except for listening to records. You'll have to add a phono amp in order to do that. Since the system cost around $600, you'd have money to spare for the phono amp.

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The Onkyo HT-S6100 will do everything you ask except for listening to records. You'll have to add a phono amp in order to do that. Since the system cost around $600, you'd have money to spare for the phono amp.

My record player already has a phono amp built in. Also i forgot to tell you that i have a decent sub so i can pass on buying that.
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I'll second the s6100, really good deal for the price.
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I would like it support all of the formats the ps3 does (dolby true hd and that other uncompressed one), like i said i would like 5.1 or 7.1 analog inputs (sacd needs them).

$800 total? At that price you're not going to get any 7.1 system with enough quality to bring out the benefits of the lossless codecs like Dolby TrueHD and SACD. Closer to $800 per speaker if you want that kind of quality.
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$800 total? At that price you're not going to get any 7.1 system with enough quality to bring out the benefits of the lossless codecs like Dolby TrueHD and SACD. Closer to $800 per speaker if you want that kind of quality.

Completely untrue.
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Completely untrue.

Then name those cheap speakers that can demonstrate the difference between a CD and SACD of the same music, or DTS vs. Dolby TrueHD of the same movie.
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Then name those cheap speakers that can demonstrate the difference between a CD and SACD of the same music, or DTS vs. Dolby TrueHD of the same movie.

Not exactly $800 but a package deal from elemental designs for $1K is a SWEET package and it includes a damn good sub.

Heck, its completely subjective to argue there is really a MEANINGFUL difference between DTS and TrueHD with ANY speaker or system. I have spent more money the most and I still love DTS movies!! DTS is Great, TrueHD is great lets move beyond subjective BS posts and just find out what people want instead of arguing so many subjective things?

We have no idea if the OP will notice any difference or even cares...he probably just wants to know if there are great deals out there that people active in this forum know about. Most posts really just want to know about the "Deals" online!

I would say if he can bump up his $$$ he should check out AV123 for some deals. Not sure if the ELTs are still going for a cheap price.

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Without diving into debates about those codecs, the point is that $800 total isn't going to buy a high quality system. Or even mid-fi. Just trying to set the OP's expectations straight and make it clear that an $800 total is just barely entry level.
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I was trying to price a decent receiver and 5-7 speaker setup for the OP but its really tough to do. For $800 he could get this.

Onkyo 606 receiver $380 shipped
3 pair Athena LS-100 bookshelf speakers at $100/pr
1 Athena LSC-100 center channel speaker

That would be pretty good home theater setup but not sure how good for SACD. Don't know how high you expectations are for SACD audio.

What sub does the OP have?

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I am in a similar boat as the OP. (See: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14618904)

What do you think of Polk Monitor 50's and 40's vs the athenas you posted.
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Mon...908487&sr=1-12

I am becoming a sucker for wood finish floor standing speakers, but B&W is out of my price range...

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I am becoming a sucker for wood finish floor standing speakers, but B&W is out of my price range...

http://www.audioadvisor.com/products...by=price%2CASC
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What do you think of Polk Monitor 50's and 40's vs the athenas you posted.
http://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Mon...908487&sr=1-12

I am becoming a sucker for wood finish floor standing speakers, but B&W is out of my price range...

Wouldn't be fair to compare the large floorstanding Monitor 50 to the small Athena bookshelf. Besides the size difference, you can get 4 Athena bookshelfs and 1 center for less than the price of 2 Monitor 50's.

If you're comparing the Monitor 50 to the Athena LS-500 then that might be fair. Unfortunately the Athena can only be found online and its being closed out since Klipsch bought them out. I have older model Athena AS-F1 and love them, but haven't heard the new models in person. You can at least hear the Polk in person so go with that.
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ATLS500

If you want a real wood finish, you should look at the Polk RTi8 instead of the Monitor 50. They are being cleared out between $300-$400 a pair at places like Fry's Electronics.
http://www.polkaudio.com/homeaudio/p...dividual/rti8/

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Without diving into debates about those codecs, the point is that $800 total isn't going to buy a high quality system. Or even mid-fi. Just trying to set the OP's expectations straight and make it clear that an $800 total is just barely entry level.

I agree, but stating $800 per speaker is required is false.

My DIY speakers @ $800 a pair are better than most 5 times that amount, so price doesn't always equal better.

Also, there is a point for diminishing returns.

IMO, even the budget Paradigm Atom Monitor's @ $125 per speaker can easily demonstrate the advantages of high bitrate (as well as bit depth and sampling rate), as well as the dynamic range advantages of lossless codecs.

But yes, $800 total for 7.1 and receiver is quite a feat.
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I agree, but stating $800 per speaker is required is false.

All of $800 per speaker isn't required, and I didn't say that the full $800 is required. But for that kind of quality it costs closer to $800 per speaker than $800 for everything.
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My DIY speakers @ $800 a pair are better than most 5 times that amount, so price doesn't always equal better.

Well, I was only referring to new prebuilt retail. Once you go used, DIY, out-of-business sales, employee discounts etc. anything can happen with the price.
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What company/models would you guys use to piece together a 5.1 system for between $500 and $1000?

Polk Monitor 50's, 40's?
Athena LS-500's, 300's?

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What company/models would you guys use to piece together a 5.1 system for between $500 and $1000?

Polk Monitor 50's, 40's?
Athena LS-500's, 300's?

wojcikc3, take a look at Definitive technology's ProCinema 600 or ProCinema 800 package. This is in your price range and can be upgraded to slightly better by buying Definitive Technology speakers (promonitor 600 or 800) and then getting an upgraded sub separately (SVS PB10 or the like).

I am thinking about the procinema 600 or 800 myself with an Onkyo TX-SR606 receiver (or similar).

Anyone have any thoughts on this set up as a fairly decent entry level HT system?
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