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I am newbie on speakers and would like suggestions for v663. my budget is around 500 for a 5.1 speakers and would it be possible to get decent speakers? May be I can go about 100$ more if needed. This is for a basement setup for a room size of abt 20 x 16. Please give me some of your expert opinions.

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$500-600 is not a lot for the whole 5.1 setup, but it's more than a lot of people start with! In that price range, look into some satellite systems with sub included, I suggest going to some stores and listening to different brands and decide which suit you.

The other option is forgetting about 5.1 altogether, and build your system over time. You can start with 2 decent towers but no sub(stereo), you'd be surprised how good it can sound with quality towers. Other options being decent 4 bookshelves but no center or sub, which will give you the most basic surround sound possible.

That's a pretty big room, so I would suggest the route of less larger speakers vs more tiny satellites. Either way I think you'll be pleased, taking your real first step into audio/surround. One rule of thumb is to budget the same amount for audio as you have on your TV, as 50% of the movie experience is the audio, seriously.

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well for about 500 i would go with these


two pairs of the bic dv62si
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV...2113406&sr=1-1
a bic dv62clr-s center
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-America-DV..._ce_av__text_b
and a bic v1020 sub
http://www.amazon.com/BIC-V1020-Down...ref=pd_sim_e_3
its about $520 for this system
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I'd put the 5 - 600 towards a good pair of fronts and save for the rest, or perhaps put it towards fronts and center, and save for the rest. 20 X 16 is a big enough room that you may end up wanting to upgrade that $500 5.1 system not too long after purchasing.
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4 Polk R50 floorstanding speakers $59ea, $160-$170 shipped per pair.
http://shop2.frys.com/product/400509...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Polk CS1 center speaker
jr.com and ebay Polk audio store have the CS1 for under $100.

That's leaves $150-$180 for a sub.
http://vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/f..._c=site_search

You'll be right around your $600 mark.

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afrogt..that FRY deal is dead. It now says $199/per P50 speaker.

What about the bics? You could get:

- 2 T-88s (tower)
- 1 T-65 (center)

(and get away with no sub for awhile...)

or

- 2 T-75s (towers)
- 1 T-65 (center)
- 2 T-63s (rear)

..for about the same price.

I hear its better to buy GOOD front/centers then add rears later..would that mean the T-88s would be teh way to go?

Regarding Behringer, I've also heard to just buy:

- 6 b2030p ($130/pair shipped)

and use one as center and 4 for surround (you have an extra)

Regarding satelliteguys.us

- Yambeka 7.1 set ($349) and I know its Chinese..but I've seen some fairly decent reviews; even on AVS..but would the Behringer or bic blow this out of the water?

I would plan to pick up a T-100 at some point as well no matter which speakers.

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Regarding Behringer, I've also heard to just buy:
- 6 b2030p ($130/pair shipped)and use one as center and 4 for surround (you have an extra)


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I'll throw another option out there. The Mirage Nanosat 5.1 system can be had for about $599 sometimes less. Also check out av123's b-stock page:

http://**********/component/page,shop...rt/Itemid,130/
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Check the Harman Audio store on ebay. JBL Studio L830 book shelf speakers have been going around $170/pr plus $30 shipping. LC1 Center channel anywhere from $73-$140. Just buy one when the bidding is low. They look very sweet in cherry or black!

Get your subwoofer now and then order the surround speakers later. Harman Audio always has the surrounds available.

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I know there is a few folks that recommend the Behringers quite frequently. Has anyone ever put the Behringers up against $300-500 bookshelfs? And I'm not talking about just the cabinet or resonance, but total sound quality.
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You can get the Klipsch quintets or some of the Polk satellite systems for a similar price.
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I know there is a few folks that recommend the Behringers quite frequently. Has anyone ever put the Behringers up against $300-500 bookshelfs? And I'm not talking about just the cabinet or resonance, but total sound quality.

There is a member at Audioholics ( WmAx) that I do believe has.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=48042

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There is a member at Audioholics ( WmAx) that I do believe has.

http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...ad.php?t=48042


I've seen his posts and those were somewhat what I was referring to. Was there some type of A-B'ing with a handful of comparable bookshelfs? Is there others besides him or is everyone running with his comment and taking it for gospel.


I half intrigued to buy a pair, as cheap as they are, to compare with some Paradigms, PSB and B&W just to see if his comments about <$500 hold any water.
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Finally got the speakers except for the sub. I got it through the 30% off live.com offer.

( all prices after cashback)
Polk Monitor 50s - 200
CS1 Center - 80
Monitor 40s - 115

I am now looking for a sub. I am thinking of BIC H-100. Do you guys have any other option?

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the h100 is one of the best subs for 250 or under
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X2 on the BIC stuff. For us cheap guys its the best you can afford kind of thing. Make an offer on ebay to some one selling BIC they took my offer of 680 for:
ht-75 1 pair, ht-63 1 pair, ht-65, h100



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I am now looking for a sub. I am thinking of BIC H-100. Do you guys have any other option?

Cadence CSX-12
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Ordered one Bic H-100 for $279 with $73 cashback again on Ebay. With my Polk speakers and H100, final price ended at $600 with the cashback.
Thanks for everyone on suggesting the speakers.
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Ordered one Bic H-100 for $279 with $73 cashback again on Ebay. With my Polk speakers and H100, final price ended at $600 with the cashback.
Thanks for everyone on suggesting the speakers.

Congrats, I used my cashback on my Marantz receiver!!!

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I've long wanted the bic H100 sub. The fact there's a decent set of fronts and center in the not-too-ridiculous price range only fuels my desire to have a matched group. I have some old towers I'll probably put into service as the rears until/unless I can save up to buy the HT63s. The hardest part for me has been deciding between the HT88/85 seriees or the HT75/65 series. Since I can't find the HT88 on sale anywhere, I think I'm going to have to go with the 75s. It seems for awhile there the HT88s could be found on sale but supplies must have dried up because the only time I see them now is with a complete speaker 51 set ($800ish) and I'm not prepared to spend that kind of cash since I still need a receiver.

So my plan may be to buy the HT75s & 65 + 660. Then get the sub in a couple months when my bank account has recovered and *POSSIBLY* get the 63s down the road.

My experience in the past has been that the rears you can hardly hear so I don't know how much its worth it to buy those when I have some perfectly good Kenwood towers (from the late 1980s...)

I'm going to hold out a bit longer in hopes some HT88s show up on ebay but if not, I'll put the trigger on the 75/65 getup.
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I'm going to hold out a bit longer in hopes some HT88s show up on ebay but if not, I'll put the trigger on the 75/65 getup.

Unless you have a massive room the 88's arent neccessary. You will be plenty happy with the 75 from the reviews I have read. Sure its "cool" to say you have the 88's but from a HT standpoint you may not know the difference.

I say pull the trigger and get the 75's, when funds allow buy the 88's you want and move the 75's to the surround position and move the 63's to the far rear position in a 7.1 setup. This is my plan.

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I say pull the trigger and get the 75's, when funds allow buy the 88's you want and move the 75's to the surround position and move the 63's to the far rear position in a 7.1 setup. This is my plan.



Wow! I completely forgot about 7.1. GOOD POINT!

The only thing would be the center..85 v 65..that might have to be replaced.

And yes, I have a 12x12 room essentially so the 88s are probably overkill.
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PS Does the "length" of a room matter when going 5.1 v 7.1? I know ZILCH about this but it seems that a longer room might lend itself more to 7.1..or am I just a complete moron (highly likely) in how that works?
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PS Does the "length" of a room matter when going 5.1 v 7.1? I know ZILCH about this but it seems that a longer room might lend itself more to 7.1..or am I just a complete moron (highly likely) in how that works?

I am noobish as well but I am going to say no. If your placement is correct you can find the sweet spots in any room.

CHECK this..

5.1



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Wow! I completely forgot about 7.1. GOOD POINT!

And yes, I have a 12x12 room essentially so the 88s are probably overkill.

I highly doubt 7.1 will be beneficial to you. Even with "only" 5.1, remember that getting your seated position away from the back wall will help you in audio terms. Also, the TV will look bigger too.

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PS Does the "length" of a room matter when going 5.1 v 7.1? I know ZILCH about this but it seems that a longer room might lend itself more to 7.1..or am I just a complete moron (highly likely) in how that works?

See above; dependent on the space you have behind you. FWIW, if doing 5.1, try to get a slightly obtuse angle, such as 110 degrees, to have the surrounds straddle the side and rear areas. Once you have 7.1, you can now put the side surrounds at 90 degrees, for a more complete wrap.

 

 

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Can you really tell the difference? What does 71 HONESTLY do for you that 51 doesnt already? Is it more of a sound moving 'behind' you? As opposed to moving to your "sideE" with 51?

I know..I really should read up on this somewhere before I start peppering questions about something that is probably painfully obvious to 90% of the people on here....
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Can you really tell the difference? What does 71 HONESTLY do for you that 51 doesnt already?

7.1 can enhance your movie viewing experience. But if it's at the expense of lesser quality speakers it could make your experience not so enjoyable.

If your working with a budget, and are willing to spend over that budget for the additional speakers that's great. But if your not going to increase your budget. IMO it's better to get a 5.1 system.

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